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Old 08-19-2006, 07:01 PM
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Has anyone ever seen a civic converted to E85? I've been doing some looking and it doesn't appear that it would be a difficult project. E85 would net 10% less MPG but costs 20% less. Also, E85 is 105 octane. Plus you get the added bonus of not supporting foreign oil.
 
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Wait so is there an actual process to converting to using it? I have a friend thats been putting it in his normal car for 4 months now.....lol if he messed it up and doesnt even know it yet.
 
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Old 08-19-2006, 07:59 PM
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It burns differently, and it reacts to certain types of fuel lines and gas tanks. Different injectors and fuel mapping are required.
 
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Old 08-19-2006, 10:36 PM
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my friend has a ford ranger that is E85 ready dosent run any differnt than a pump gas car. so I guess you can tune a car for e85 not that big a deal but where are you going to get it? in michigan I have not seen 1 e85 station.

... why did I get 1 instead of One!!! it is late I am sorry for that.
 
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Old 08-19-2006, 10:49 PM
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There is an E85 station a block away from me.
 
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I have a 2001 chevy S10 that runs on E-85 the computer reads the fuel and makes the proper adjustments our milage drops about 2 miles per gallon so if the price difference isn't at least 35cents a gallon it's not worth it also if you are using tosave money okay if your using it to reduce dependance on foreign oil forget it it takes more oil to make the alchol than it saves thats what i've been told here in IL there pushing this stuff like mad Do your homework on this one before you convert and please don't try to run this in your car if it's not setup for it or it'll end up FUBAR!!!!!!!!
 
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Old 08-19-2006, 11:58 PM
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Here it's 50 cents cheaper. I'm in Rockford Illinois.

I don't see how it would take just as much oil to make E85 as gasoline, because if that were the case, E85 would be astronomically expensive.
 
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Old 08-20-2006, 12:15 AM
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E85

There is some incredible information here. In this article they're saying that E85 can actually provide more HP than gasoline. Also, it appears that all one would need to do is get bigger injectors or increase fuel pressure on a fuel injected car, that's it!

For 2.49 a gallon, and 105 octane??? This sounds too good to be true. This would be perfect for a F/I project. This article even states that boosted cars love E85 (because you can run leaner and use wilder timing)... you just need to tune them slightly different.

It says that stoich AFR is 9.765 with E85.

They also write of some kind of box that has two modes, I guess it's like a flexfuel controller or something that give the injectors a longer squirt when in ethanol mode to get the right mixture, but then you can turn it back to stock for gasoline.

But it looks like all you would need is an adjustabel FPR and a A/F gauge to tune for E85. It says that all post 1988 engines are designed as not to be negatively effected by ethanol.
 
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Old 08-20-2006, 01:38 AM
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105 octane, damn, we should all convert.
 
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Old 08-20-2006, 01:44 AM
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Also, what you've heard about E85 racer sounds like bull. Brazil uses nothing but E85 at the moment and has completely weened itself of foreign oil. It would need foreign oil if large amounts of it were required to produce E85.
 


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