View Poll Results: Best motor in your opinion?
H22A Type S
5
50.00%
B18C Type R
5
50.00%
Voters: 10. You may not vote on this poll
Need some advice. Opinions wanted!
#21
Get the H2B kit, its worth all the money.
Evolution is the name of the company that make's this kit
http://www.swapshopracing.com/index1.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YP1sC...eature=related
Evolution is the name of the company that make's this kit
http://www.swapshopracing.com/index1.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YP1sC...eature=related
#22
... God this thread makes me want to punch a baby. Seph... I don't care if you're new to cars or if you've been playing the game for 20 years. If you don't know what you're talking about, don't f**king post. Spreading misinformation is one thing I absolutely hate. Do you know anything about Honda engines? An LSV thrown together might make 300hp... for about a year. After that, you're looking at a full engine rebuild because without the proper supporting modifications, the LSV is junk. And trust me, when you start doing the supporting modifications to one, you're more or less better off swapping a B18C since it'll be cheaper. And how exactly is a 300whp turbo'd EG rice? I'd LOVE to hear that logic. As far as I'm concerned (and if any 8th gen owners get offended, good for you; I don't care) anything after 2000 is an embarrassment to the Civic name. 7th/8th gen civics are huge and look nothing like a civic should. Oh, and do you know what the "18" and "22" in B18 and H22 stand for? It's displacement. A b18 is 1.8L compared to the H22's 2.2L. So what you're saying is you suggest he swap in the smaller motor (your first post) but then you go on to say that swapping one in would be rice because it's a smaller engine?
2000EX, all I'm going to say is don't believe everything you hear; an H22 long block is a scant 30lbs heavier than a B16, which is even lighter than a B18. In other words, a turbocharged B18 is actually heavier than an all-motor H22, and the heavy turbo and manifold both place the weight in more or less the worst possible place as far as handling goes; a foot ahead of the axles. Also, what problems are you talking about with the H22? The swap is on about the same level as a B18 swap; if you have the right mounts and axles, it's almost literally a drop-in swap (it requires the same amount of wiring as a b18c).
OP, my vote's for the H22 Type-S... 220bhp and a ton of torque is better than 180bhp and a whopping what, 130ft/lbs of torque?
2000EX, all I'm going to say is don't believe everything you hear; an H22 long block is a scant 30lbs heavier than a B16, which is even lighter than a B18. In other words, a turbocharged B18 is actually heavier than an all-motor H22, and the heavy turbo and manifold both place the weight in more or less the worst possible place as far as handling goes; a foot ahead of the axles. Also, what problems are you talking about with the H22? The swap is on about the same level as a B18 swap; if you have the right mounts and axles, it's almost literally a drop-in swap (it requires the same amount of wiring as a b18c).
OP, my vote's for the H22 Type-S... 220bhp and a ton of torque is better than 180bhp and a whopping what, 130ft/lbs of torque?
#23
Yeah i have an EF, its actually got an aftermarket suspension kit put on it, but i dont like it much... the ride is so rigid i get headaches on the way to work. I can take a corner like a sonofaB though.
The car was originally built as a bandit series race car, a local race circuit that allows 4 cylinder engines only. After the previous owner blew up the b16a he had in it he replaced the old d15 and sold it to me...
The car was originally built as a bandit series race car, a local race circuit that allows 4 cylinder engines only. After the previous owner blew up the b16a he had in it he replaced the old d15 and sold it to me...
#24
2000EX, all I'm going to say is don't believe everything you hear; an H22 long block is a scant 30lbs heavier than a B16, which is even lighter than a B18. In other words, a turbocharged B18 is actually heavier than an all-motor H22, and the heavy turbo and manifold both place the weight in more or less the worst possible place as far as handling goes; a foot ahead of the axles. Also, what problems are you talking about with the H22? The swap is on about the same level as a B18 swap; if you have the right mounts and axles, it's almost literally a drop-in swap (it requires the same amount of wiring as a b18c).
OP, my vote's for the H22 Type-S... 220bhp and a ton of torque is better than 180bhp and a whopping what, 130ft/lbs of torque?
#25
I think Reaper was a little aggravated not because of you but because of this other guy going around our site spreading misinformation about the H22 and not listening to reasoning or anything and insisting that he knew he was right.
#26
yea, no biggie. im not upset. I know im not the smartest person on the webternet. I don't think he was rude to me either. Just saying I only wrote something that I "learned" on this very website. But it has a been a long time since I was an active member.
#27
You'll need to cut the hood or have a custom hood made up if you put a H22 in an EF.
My opinion the B18 is a much better option because its an easier install and if you spend the difference in price, that you saved from buying the H22, in mods on the B18 you will be faster then the stock H22.
B series FTW. This is just my opinion though, its your car spend the money how YOU want your car to be.
My opinion the B18 is a much better option because its an easier install and if you spend the difference in price, that you saved from buying the H22, in mods on the B18 you will be faster then the stock H22.
B series FTW. This is just my opinion though, its your car spend the money how YOU want your car to be.
#28
*edit: Kev, the h22 and b18c will be the same price to swap in... I'm not sure about the difficulty in an EF, but I'd imagine it's about the same.
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