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STICKY-Swap Info, check here First. - 11/22/2004 4:32:29 PM

sacicons

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OK, so its not all EG stuff, but i have a 5th gen, so im putting it here for now.
now I am feeling a little froggy. im going to work on a sticky with some swap info. It should save some time for the newbies looking for some info.

--------------- HONDA ENGINE SWAP GUIDE--------------------
GEN. YR-MODEL-CNTRY-CHASSIS-ENGINE-DISP-COMP-HP/TORQUE-TRANNY

ACCORD
6G '97-'00 Accord SIR-T Japan F20b 1997 11:1 200hp@7200/145lb-ft@6600
5G ’94-’97 Accord DX/LX USA CD F22B2 2156 8.8:1 130hp@5300/139lb-ft@4200
5G ’94-’97 Accord EX USA CD F22B1 2156 8.8:1 145hp@5500/147lb-ft@4500
5G ’94-’97 Accord SiR Japan CD H22 2157 10.6:1 190hp@6800/152lb-ft@5500
4G ’90-’91 Accord USA CB F22A4 2156 8.8:1 130hp@5200/142lb-ft@4000
4G ’90-’93 Accord USA CB F22A1 2156 8.8:1 125hp@5200/137lb-ft@4000
4G ’91-’93 Accord USA CB F22A6 2156 8.8:1 140hp@5600/142lb-ft@4500
4G ’90-’93 Accord 2.0Si Japan CB F20A (twincam) 1997 9.5:1 150hp@6100/137lb-ft@5000
3G ’88-’89 Accord USA CA A20A3 1955 9.3:1 122hp

CIVIC
6G ’99-’00 Civic Si USA EM B16A 1595 10.2:1 160hp@7600/111lb-ft@7000 S4C
6G ’96-’00 Civic EX USA EJ D16Y8 1590 9.6:1 127hp@6600/107lb-ft@5500
6G ’97+ Civic Type R Japan EK B16B 1595 10.8:1 184hp@8200/118lb-ft@7500
6G ’96+ Civic SiR II Japan EK B16A 1595 10.4:1 168hp@7800/116lb-ft@7300 S4C
6G ’96+ Civic Vti Europe EK B16A 1595 10.4:1 168hp@7800/116lb-ft@7300
5G ’92-’95 Civic Si USA EG/EH D16Z6 1590 9.2:1 125hp@6600/106lb-ft@5200
5G ’92-’95 Civic SiR Japan EG B16A 1595 10.4:1 168hp@7800/116lb-ft@7300 Y21
and SiRII
4G ’89-’91 Civic Si USA ED D16A6 1590 9.1:1 108hp@6000/100lb-ft@5000
4G ’88-’91 Civic DX USA ED D15A 1493 92hp@6000 L3
4G ’90-’91 Civic EX USA ED D16A6 1595 113hp@6200 L3
4G ’89-’92 Civic 1.6i/VTi Europe EE/ED B16A1 1595 10.2:1 158hp@7600/111lb-ft@7000 Y1 (opt. LSD)
4G ’88-’91 Civic Si Japan EF ZC 1595 9.6:1 129hp@6800/106lb-ft@5700 L3
4G ’89-’92 Civic SiR Japan EF B16A 1595 10.2:1 158hp@7600/112lb-ft@7000 Y1 (opt. LSD)
(hatch)
4G ’90-’91 Civic SiR Japan EF B16A1 1595 10.4:1 160hp@7600/111lb-ft@7000
3G ’86-’87 Civic Si USA AH EW4 1488 8.7:1 91hp@5500/93lb-ft@4500 GM
3G ’86-’87 Civic Si Japan AT ZC 1595 9.6:1 129hp@6800/106lb-ft@5700 CG

CR-X/DEL SOL
5G ’94-’97 DelSol USA/Europe EG B16A3 1595 10.2:1 158ps@7600/112lb-ft@7000 Y21
VTEC/Vti-T
5G ’92-’95 CR-X/ USA EG D16Z6 1590 9.2:1 125hp@6600/106lb-ft@5200
del Sol Si
5G ’92-’96 del Sol Japan EG B16A 1595 10.4:1 168hp@7800 Y21 or S21

CR-X SiR
4G ’88-’91 CRX Si USA ED D16A6 1595 113hp@6200
4G ’88-’91 CRX DX USA ED D15A1 1493 92hp@6000 L3
4G ’89-’92 CR-X 1.6i/VTi Europe EE B16A1 1595 10.2:1 158hp@7600/111lb-ft@7000 Y1 (opt. LSD)
4G ’90-’91 CR-X SiR Japan EF B16A1 1595 10.4:1 160hp@7600/111lb-ft@7000
4G ’89-’92 CR-X Si16/1.6i Japan EF ZC 1595 9.6:1 129hp@6800/106lb-ft@5700

4G ’89-’92 CR-X SiR Japan EF B16A 1595 10.2:1 158hp@7600/112b-ft@7000 Y1 (opt. LSD)
3G ’84-’87 CR-X HF USA EF D15A2 (carbed) 1488 58hp
3G ’85-’87 CR-X Si USA AD EW4 1488 91hp@5500/93lb-ft@4500 GM
3G ’85-’87 CR-X Si Japan AS ZC 1595 9.6:1 129hp@6800/106lb-ft@5700 CG

INTEGRA
3G ’94-’00 Integra GS-R USA DC B18C1 1797 10.0:1 170hp@7600/128lb-ft@6200 Y80
3G ’94-’00 Integra USA DC B18B1 1834 9.2:1 142hp@6300/127lb-ft@5200 S80, Y80
LS/RS/GS
3G ’97-’98, ’00 Integra Type R USA DC B18C5 1797 10.6:1 195hp@8000/130lb-ft@7500 S80
3G ’95-’97 Integra SiR Japan DC B18C 1797 10.6:1 178hp@7600/129lb-ft@6200 Y80,S80(opt. LSD)
3G ’95-’00 Integra Type R Japan DC/DB B18C 1797 11.0:1 197hp@8000/134lb-ft@7500 S80 LSD
2G ’90-’91 Integra GS USA DB B18A1 1834 9.2:1 130hp@6000/121lb-ft@5000 YS1
2G ’92-’93 Integra GS USA DB B18A1 1834 9.2:1 140hp@6300/121lb-ft@5200 YS1
2G ’92-’93 Integra GS-R USA DB B17A1 1678 10.0:1 160hp@7600/117lb-ft@7000 YS1
2G ’90-’93 Integra Japan DB ZC 1590 9.0:1 119hp@6300/105lb-ft@5500 S1, A1, J1
2G ’90-’91 Integra XSi/RSi Japan DA B16A 1595 10.2:1 158hp@7600/112lb-ft@7000 S1, A1, J1
2G ’92-’93 Integra XSi/RSi Japan DA B16A 1595 10.2:1 158hp@7600/112lb-ft@7000 YS1 (opt. LSD)
1G ’88-’89 Integra USA DA D16A3 1590 9.5:1 118hp@5500/103lb-ft@5500 CG
1G ’86-’87 Integra USA DA D16A1 1590 9.5:1 113hp@6250/99lb-ft@5500 CG
1G ’86-’89 Integra Japan AV ZC 1590 9.6:1 129hp@6800/106lb-ft@5700 CG

PRELUDE
5G ’99+ Prelude USA BB6 H22A 2157 10.0:1 200hp@7000/156lb-ft@5250
5G ’97-’98 Prelude USA BB6 H22A1 2157 10.0:1 195hp@7000/156lb-ft@5250
5G ’97+ Prelude SiR Japan BB H22A 2157 10.6:1 200@6800rpm/161lb-ft@5500
5G ’97+ Prelude Type S Japan BB H22A 2157 11.0:1 220@7200rpm/163lb-ft@6500
4G ’92-’96 Prelude S USA BB F22A1 2156 8.8:1 135hp@5200/142lb-ft@4000
4G ’92-’96 Prelude Si/SE USA BB2 H23A1 2258 9.8:1 160hp@5800/156lb-ft@4500
4G ’94-’96 Prelude VTEC USA BB1 H22A1 2156 10.0:1 190hp@6800/158lb-ft@5500
4G ’92-’96 Prelude Si Japan BA F22 2156 160hp@6000/148lb-ft@5000
(DOHC, non VTEC)
4G ’92-’96 Prelude VTEC Japan BB H22 2157 10.6:1 200@6800/161lb-ft@5500
3G ’90-’91 Prelude 2.0S USA BA B20A3 1958 9.1:1 104hp@5800/111lb-ft@4000
3G ’90-’91 Prelude 2.0Si USA BA B20A5 1958 9.0:1 135hp@5800/111lb-ft@4000
3G ’90-’91 Prelude Si USA BA B21A1 2056 9.4:1 140hp@5800/135lb-ft@5000
3G ’88-’89 Prelude Si USA BA B20A5 1958 9.0:1 135hp K4

THE ODDBALLS
’99+ SMX Japan B20Z 1972 9.6:1 146hp@6200/133lb-ft@4500
’97-’98 CR-V USA RD B20B 1973 8.8:1 126hp@5400/133lb-ft@4300
'99- '01 CR-V USA RD B20Z 1973 9.6:1 146hp@6400/133lb-ft@4500

yeah, i know i didnt compile all the stats, but ill try to answer some more questions before they are asked by going over some opinions and options for the most popular swaps for the most popular cars.

EF(88-91)- requires either a cable transmission, or a lot of work. cable trannys are cheaper. go with the cable tranny. OBD0. easiest to remain OBD0. if you change to OBD1-2, get the harness that plugs it in. its worth it.

EG(92-95)- more popular for swaps due to the greater possibilities for drop in swaps. slightly roomier engine bay than the EF, usually lighter than the EK. b-series goes in using all honda parts (mounts, wiring, etc.) h-series uses mount kit. still pretty straightforward. OBD1.

EK(96-00)-Great chassis. good for swaps. swaps pretty much like EG, but is OBD2.

EM-EP(01+) swaps are difficult, but chassis is new, so should improve with R+D. best power possibilities should be with FI.

VTEC motors are better. period. that doesnt say non-vtec isnt worth dealing with, they are still great motors. esp the DOHCs. as long as it has 16valves, it has potential.

DOHC is better. Period. same as above.

B16- high compression, low torque. great motor. is well suited to "low" budget builds (yeah, I know, its not cheap. im comparing it to other b motors.) takes well to mods. Good for FI, but keep boost levels low, as CR is too high for decent boost. early ones had cable trannys, later ones went to hydraulic.

B18 non-vtec-a little cheaper than b16. great torque, mediocre HP. good potential. decent for boost, lower CR than vtec motors, allows for higher boost levels, but similar power numbers.

B20 non-vtec- good motor, pretty cheap. b20b is good for boost, low CR. b20z has higher compression, good hp and great torque on both motors. possible to go cr-vtec, but has issues with piston-to-valve clearence. more feasible than ls-vtec as Honda doesnt offer another b-series 2L vtec. even non-vtec has great swap potential. has thin cylinder walls, might become a problem at high boost levels. and crv tranny will NOT bolt up to a civic. must use other b-series transaxle.

B18c1- great torque, great HP. good all-around motor. takes to mods very well. compared to the b16, its everything the 1.6 isnt. good t

< Message edited by sacicons -- 3/30/2005 10:46:35 PM >

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RE: STICKY-Swap Info, check here First. - 12/13/2004 2:29:21 PM

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Hi sacicons, im a new member to HCF and am very impressed at the wealth of info you guys have. I to own an EG6 like yourself, its a 94 Vti v-tec with a B16a2 engine, check it out at www.cardomain.com/id/scottishpol. You guys over the pond seem to have alot more going on with jap preformance motors and i would like to ask you what swap you would do. Is it possible to swap the 2.2l integra engine into the EG6?. I watched a video clip of a S2000 racing an EG6 and i beleive it blew the S2000 away with the 2.2l swap. Plus it sounded like nothing ive heard before. Let me know your thoughts on this matter as i would very much appreciate it.

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RE: STICKY-Swap Info, check here First. - 12/13/2004 7:05:43 PM

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man, the b16a2 has too much potential to swap it out. yeah, a bigger motor makes power easier, but you can match a 2.2 most of the way. if you really want a fast, well-mannered car, then get either a b18c jap spec GSR or Type r motor. expect to pay though. an H22 (prelude-accord-R) motor makes good power, but the install isnt as clean or easy as a B to B swap. you could do either motor in about a day with good tools. i had to swap my b16a2 to a gsr motor due to emission restrictions (new motor must be same year or newer than car, b16 was 94, car was 95, gsr is 96

) and it took me and my brother about 12-15 hours, but i replaced a bunch of other stuff, and removed the fenders and bumper to paint the engine bay black. i loved my b16, and it has almost the same potential as a 1.8L, but the added torque of the GSR motor is great. its up to you really. though if you do a swap, try to get a transaxle with a limited-slip differential. its worth the extra money.

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RE: STICKY-Swap Info, check here First. - 2/18/2005 12:27:51 AM

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hey . . . . i have just bought an australia honda civic Gli that comes with a non vtec SOHC 1.5 ltr engine. i am looking to put in a b18C5. is it just the straight bolt in swap that i have been hearing so much about or is it a little more difficult than that.

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RE: STICKY-Swap Info, check here First. - 2/18/2005 1:01:59 AM

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sacicons: Don't know how important it is, but you left the 97-00 Accord SiR-T (F20B) off the list...

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RE: STICKY-Swap Info, check here First. - 2/19/2005 11:37:42 PM

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my compy died, but if you can find all the info for me, pm it to me and ill get it in when i can get back on.

and the b18c5 should be pretty easy. what year is your car?

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RE: STICKY-Swap Info, check here First. - 3/29/2005 9:32:34 PM

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what swap would you suggest for my 00 d16y8'd ex?

im wanting something dohc, and can be turbo'd at decent boost sizes to definitly blow people away. you sound like the man who would know. thanks.

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RE: STICKY-Swap Info, check here First. - 3/29/2005 11:51:46 PM

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personally, id go witht the B18c1, and keep the boost low. even at a moderate 5-6 psi, it will be out of most cars league.

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