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RE: B16b vs B18c1/B18c5 - 12/13/2006 11:04:38 PM

drbyers

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if you don't know what your doing then you shouldn't be swapping with a factory vtec block either...

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RE: B16b vs B18c1/B18c5 - 12/13/2006 11:17:33 PM

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swapping an enigne is pretty much remover and replae with minor mods to get it in and wiring.

building an engine is a whole other story, you need to get clearences, torque bolts to proper specs, special tools to instal parts. its a precision thing and screwing up is easy to do. thats why i never did a mini me to my civic, i just swapped the whole engine. took me 2 days start to finish and was well worth it. got in and started up like honda intended. no need to worry about what timing belt or waterpump to use, and if you got the right one.

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RE: B16b vs B18c1/B18c5 - 12/13/2006 11:20:07 PM

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woohoo. i think you're ready to graduate to prefab engine swap kits.

in other words LSVTEC conversions...

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RE: B16b vs B18c1/B18c5 - 12/13/2006 11:24:43 PM

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yes because they are a cheap way to make money.

you honestly thinik they make conversion kits just to scam people out of money nad blow their engines? If this was true, why would they keep selling after the 10th one messed up?

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RE: B16b vs B18c1/B18c5 - 12/13/2006 11:26:07 PM

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lol.

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RE: B16b vs B18c1/B18c5 - 12/13/2006 11:31:13 PM

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yes because they are a cheap way to make money.

you honestly thinik they make conversion kits just to scam people out of money nad blow their engines? If this was true, why would they keep selling after the 10th one messed up?

no the kit works fine, its just the end users who **** them up. so it is a cheap way for a company to make money, not saying there product is inferior. oh and ebay chips? do they add power? or what companies keep making them and people blow ther motors. just because a company makes something doesn't mean its a good quality product. a few more come to mind like the tornado, and ssautochrome.

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RE: B16b vs B18c1/B18c5 - 12/14/2006 12:25:40 AM

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you can add arp rod bolts and fix the ls/b20 bottom end weakness but their power even with a vtec head will drop off around 7400rpm in stock form.

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RE: B16b vs B18c1/B18c5 - 12/14/2006 5:47:21 PM

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man.. maybe i shoulda jus started a new thread? we should change the title on this one to ls/cr-vtec conversion.

well like aryiman said. i did bring this thread back from the dead. if you go back to the first page, you can see it was started over a year ago.

im not tryin to be an ass but i wanna ask again,

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b16b vs. b18c (type r's)
since i found a thread on this already i didnt wanna start a new one.
there are so many things you can do to a honda civic. and ive decided i wanna stay NA.

i hear if goin NA, then the itr motor is the way to go. but i wanna know a little more about the ctr motor. does the itr motor beat it out in every way?

for me, i would love the fact that i could tell people i have a b16b. i know people say b16's are waay over-rated, and the b16b is way more than it is worth. but something is pullin me towards it. im not lookin to be the fastest guy in the world. thats why i decided on stayin NA, that plus i wont have to go through the hassle of everything dealing with forced induction. (prepping block, tuning, buying the parts, installing, etc..)

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RE: B16b vs B18c1/B18c5 - 12/14/2006 10:15:49 PM

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the itr has more power and torque du to its larger displacement. but the ctr engine revs higher due to the longer rods givig it the better rod to stroke ratio making it high rpm stable.

if you are just going to swap an engine in an leave it stock an itr would be the best bet, more power and torque, but if you decide to build it internally a gsr engine would be the best bet because its about 2-3 grand cheaper than the type r

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RE: B16b vs B18c1/B18c5 - 12/14/2006 11:21:47 PM

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IMO bang for the buck the H22 is better than both

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