RE: Turbo vs. all motor
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RE: Turbo vs. all motor - 2/8/2006 2:56:47 PM
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Pete
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Get a honda D16Z6 engine, boost it, get it tuned. Say youre layin down 225WHP on 10 PSI.....and every time you drive it your are just redlining it, or just going into full boost every minute you drive it.......it will break quicker.
Take a stock honda motor, beat it daily and it will break quicker too.
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RE: Turbo vs. all motor - 2/8/2006 2:59:04 PM
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dj_ipirate
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wwell i figured that. md made it sound like there is something i might not know.
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RE: Turbo vs. all motor - 2/8/2006 3:12:09 PM
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Marty
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I will say this and it may piss people off but IMHO the B16 is the most overrated swap in the history of swaps. You pay anywhere from $1500 to $2700 depending on the generation and you get around 25 to 35whp at most. Using the cheapest swap and the most hp you get around 1hp for every $42 you spend and your still stuck with no tq as the B16's only have like 5 more ft lbs of tq than the D16's.
To put this into perspective with a H22 swap you get around 1hp for every $25 you spend and with a d series turbo setup you get like 1hp per every $15 you spend.
< Message edited by md420 -- 2/8/2006 3:14:40 PM >
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RE: Turbo vs. all motor - 2/8/2006 3:17:24 PM
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dj_ipirate
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thats true about the tourqe. i drove a guys crx with a b16 in there and my car could get a good headstart on it before it blew the doors off my car.
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RE: Turbo vs. all motor - 2/8/2006 3:23:00 PM
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yeah b16s are overrated, you can put that 2-3k into a d and have a ton more power than the stock b16 for the same or less amount of money
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RE: Turbo vs. all motor - 2/8/2006 3:32:04 PM
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haha, this is a lot of great info , i figure it would be cheaper to boost the d, and i always wanted to sport that intercooler look, not to many of those around here. keep all the great points coming guys, i'm still on the line between the two here.
p.s. looking to spend about 2k, no more then 2300, i'm hoping.
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RE: Turbo vs. all motor - 2/8/2006 3:38:54 PM
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dj_ipirate
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let me see if i can find you a good intake and header...
jk
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RE: Turbo vs. all motor - 2/8/2006 5:20:09 PM
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Pete
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2k should be able to do it with a tune
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RE: Turbo vs. all motor - 2/8/2006 9:03:47 PM
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Nail I3unny
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ORIGINAL: md420
I will say this and it may piss people off but IMHO the B16 is the most overrated swap in the history of swaps.
+6
the only thing the B16 has over the H22 is weight and aftermarket. B18C1 is about as perfect of a balance you can get for aftermarket, stock power, tunability, and weight.
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RE: Turbo vs. all motor - 2/9/2006 4:40:19 AM
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Marty
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The thing about the weight is more myth and people going on he said she said crap. A B series swap is only like 40 to 55lbs lighter than a H22 swap. The big problem or atleast used to be the big problem is the way the engine leaned foward in the engine bay making the weight hang in front of the front wheels rather than directly on top or slightly behinde them so it would throw the balance off. Also with it sitting like that it had a tendency to snap axels stock or aftermarket when launching hard. Well all that has been fixed because the EG and EK mounts for a H22 swap have been redone because of this, the swap at first did not get alot of fan fair over this and the bad things that used to happen stuck with it even though the problems were fixed.
The H22 in stock form will throw around 165 to 170whp and around 135 ft lbs of tq to the wheels bone stock. That my freinds is very good power for the money, your talking ITR hp with tq that a ITR swap could only dream of in strock form for far cheaper. A note to anyone wanting to do this swap there is a couple other things that should be known. When doing this swap you also need a prelude shifter assembly and you need to make 2 holes in the lower firewall to accept the cables in order to shift. It's not that big of a deal though really. Also another side note is that if you plan to supercharge it with a JRSC you will need to physicly beat the upper firewall to be able to fit it in there. Lets knock this one out of there too........you can fit a turbo setup under the hood with no problem on a H22 swapped civic.
That is a H22 swapped EK, now honestly does it look any more cramped than a B series EK?
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