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RE: glass wont come clean! - 7/3/2007 2:09:57 PM

matts

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i didnt know it was possible for invisible glass not to work... try doing it in the garage where the windows wont be hot that usually works for me.

unless you're talking about some type of invisible glass i'm not familiar with invisible glass is nothing more than you're average glass cleaner. good for removing a good majority of stuff on glass, but definately not the best thing you can use

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RE: glass wont come clean! - 7/3/2007 3:37:47 PM

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I have a carport that I park the car under - so it's not a 'hot window from the sun' issue And the air blowing through the carport actually keeps the temps cooler than inside the closed garage as well.

Like matts said, this is a bigger problem than Invisible Glass can handle. I'm not unhappy I bought the product though - it cleans the glass like nobody's business. So once I get these 'deposits' taken care of, I'll be using it to keep 'em clean.

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RE: glass wont come clean! - 7/10/2007 12:45:32 PM

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dude someone already said the key

fine steel wool. You can move that stuff all across the glass without scratching it, when i worked at the body shop we used that for everything... overspray, and anything else we encountered.
get a little liquid cleaner on it first and then just go over it real fast with the fine steel woool

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RE: glass wont come clean! - 7/10/2007 1:46:36 PM

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just found this site not sure if its what your looking for.

http://www.jracenstein.com/Store/items.asp?Cc=00016&iTpStatus=0&Tp=&Bc=

I've used razor blades and a window cleaner. But not for the same as what you've got. just my input

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RE: glass wont come clean! - 7/10/2007 2:58:08 PM

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wash the inside of the window too haha

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RE: glass wont come clean! - 7/10/2007 7:31:51 PM

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^^+1 lol

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RE: glass wont come clean! - 7/11/2007 10:00:41 PM

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ORIGINAL: bp4131017

dude someone already said the key

fine steel wool. You can move that stuff all across the glass without scratching it, when i worked at the body shop we used that for everything... overspray, and anything else we encountered.
get a little liquid cleaner on it first and then just go over it real fast with the fine steel woool

Yeah - here's the thing. Steel Wool: 0, Hard Water Deposits: 12

Did I mention this car has lived in West Texas most of its life?

And the inside of the windows were professionally cleaned when I had the window tint installed - even they said they couldn't do anything for the outside of the glass. ;-)

Next up, some cleaner I got from the detailer that contains about 5 different kinds of acids and must be diluted with 5 parts water to be 'safe' for cleaning wheels.

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RE: glass wont come clean! - 7/12/2007 7:16:59 AM

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well watch how much money you spend, you'll eventually get to a point where you've almost spent as much trying to clean up a dirty windshield as it would cost to just replace it.

read this thread http://autopia.org/forum/car-detailing/88698-how-do-i-fix-windshield-glass.html?highlight=windshield

also try dipping the magic eraser in vinegar.

or if you want to try something like this http://www.caswellplating.com/buffs/glass.htm

don't use steel wool. even #0000 will leave scratches on your windows. i messed up a brand new windshield by using steel wool on it to remove some stubborn bug guts because someone said it worked good.....big mistake. i put alot of fine, circular swirls all over my windshield. looked like i had ran through a gazillion spider-webs.

have you tried a "hard water spot remover" yet? http://www.spot-x.net/ i dont think that particular product works very well, but you might have better luck with it. but there are other spot removers on the market

im not trying to criticize, but i find it hard to believe out of everything, even just what I have, suggested that NOTHING is working the least little bit. you're not going to find a miracle product that you pour/spray on and the spots just vanish. anything you use is going to require a little elbow behind it to really work it in

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RE: glass wont come clean! - 7/12/2007 11:01:36 AM

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try washin inside the windsheild if the spots will not come out no matter what haha

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RE: glass wont come clean! - 7/12/2007 8:13:47 PM

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well watch how much money you spend, you'll eventually get to a point where you've almost spent as much trying to clean up a dirty windshield as it would cost to just replace it.

If it were only just the windshield, I'd completely agree. However, ALL exterior glass on this car (headlight lenses included) suffer from this issue. Once I had the tint installed, it made the problem just that much more obvious. And quite honestly, the visibility is about 20% hindered because of the stains... and I hate not having absolutely clear glass. I can accept normal pitting and whatnot on a windshield considering the age of the car. And once I get it absolutely clean, I have a few tricks to restore the windshield somewhat as well.

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ORIGINAL: matts
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im not trying to criticize, but i find it hard to believe out of everything, even just what I have, suggested that NOTHING is working the least little bit. you're not going to find a miracle product that you pour/spray on and the spots just vanish. anything you use is going to require a little elbow behind it to really work it in

Surprise! I found the elusive 'spray on - wipe off' product: http://www.hitempinc.com/etw_cleaners/

I snagged a bottle of Hi-Temp HT-709 from the detailer that installed my window tint (only because I've never tried to heat-shrink such a complicated piece as the rear glass on an EG hatchie!). He said he's used it for years (I met him when his shop was still a Conoco Gas Station) with good results. Bonus!

I was anxious and wiped some on straight out of the bottle - no diluting - and let it sit for about 2 minutes (1-3 minute dwell time with standard application), then Windexed it off... and voila! No more water stains. No... really. Gone. Well, the window's not totally done, because of the inconsistency of my wiping, but I plan on putting this stuff in a spray bottle and using it properly this weekend. I'm so stoked. My wife's '01 Grand Prix GT has the same stuff on it, and I can finally get her car squared away once and for all. Even though it claims it's safe for painted wheels, I'm going to have to be ultra careful around the paint anyway - not taking chances... especially on her car with its brand-new Firestorm Red paint from after the hail storms.

Spot-X was actually my next choice, after reading everything on their website a few days ago. But I don't recall anyone in our town that retails it, so I'm glad it worked out like this.

And I had never really given steel wool a second thought - I've actually messed up a windshield using steel wool before as well.

Thanks everybody, for all the input (except for the jokesters that keep insisting I need to clean the inside of the glass - yet again) - believe it or not, I've actually taken everybody's [legitimate] advice - I'll try anything once.

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