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RE: Killed a mustang! - 7/11/2006 12:18:09 PM

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i dont know...you see mustangs and other domestic muscle cars can build up power really easy, but is it worth it when you rev past 6k and throw a rod because the engine was designed by a 5 year old...i accept the fact that without a tuned boosted motor i cant compete with them, but i am content in knowing that my car can rev to 7500, and not blow apart....
overall engineering PWNs power...

Dont forget the fact that they paid nearly $30k for a pos.

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RE: Killed a mustang! - 7/11/2006 12:26:39 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: BurryTheSpeedo

i dont know...you see mustangs and other domestic muscle cars can build up power really easy, but is it worth it when you rev past 6k and throw a rod because the engine was designed by a 5 year old...i accept the fact that without a tuned boosted motor i cant compete with them, but i am content in knowing that my car can rev to 7500, and not blow apart....
overall engineering PWNs power...

Im going to have to go ahead and disagree with you on this one.

the new Mustang GT's 3V V8 can handle TONS of power in fact any Ford designed V8 can and will take to bolt ons amazingly. Even the underrated 1999 SVT Cobra motor can take a bolt on Kenne Bell supercharger and safley handle upwards of 420whp.

The engineering might not be up to par with a b18c ITR motor, but nonetheless the 4.6 modular Ford V8 consistently makes "The Greatest Engine List" and other achievements. If your going to get mad about someone putting down Hondas, dont be a hyporcrite by criticizing their car either......just my .02

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RE: Killed a mustang! - 7/11/2006 1:01:42 PM

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I beat a 05-06 Mustang GT. The guy in the Stang was pissed lol

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RE: Killed a mustang! - 7/11/2006 2:38:35 PM

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As many people as there are that don't like stangs, you have to give them credit for being very able to gain a lot of power...Especially the 5.0's.

A friend of mine had a 1991 GT with a completely stock engine and bolt-ons and 4.10 gears. It ran a 13.6 at the track with horrible traction. That apparently wasnt good enough for him and he now has a built 331 stroker and his best pass has been an 11.7. No forced induction. No bottle. Just raw power.

Granted, I will give a civic guy much more credit if he can run 11's, but any car running an 11 second quarter in my opinion deserves a good amount of credit

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RE: Killed a mustang! - 7/11/2006 2:53:08 PM

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true you have to appreciate the car for what it is. Especially all the work it would take to get a 4 cylinder car to get into the 11s

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I was wondering if the forum had a special section for real engines???

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RE: Killed a mustang! - 7/11/2006 4:05:05 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: BurryTheSpeedo

i dont know...you see mustangs and other domestic muscle cars can build up power really easy, but is it worth it when you rev past 6k and throw a rod because the engine was designed by a 5 year old...i accept the fact that without a tuned boosted motor i cant compete with them, but i am content in knowing that my car can rev to 7500, and not blow apart....
overall engineering PWNs power...

There is no need for it to rev past 7k when it makes 2x the amount of torque as the "highly engineered engine" at idle

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RE: Killed a mustang! - 7/11/2006 8:13:11 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: BurryTheSpeedo

i dont know...you see mustangs and other domestic muscle cars can build up power really easy, but is it worth it when you rev past 6k and throw a rod because the engine was designed by a 5 year old...i accept the fact that without a tuned boosted motor i cant compete with them, but i am content in knowing that my car can rev to 7500, and not blow apart....
overall engineering PWNs power...

There is no need for it to rev past 7k when it makes 2x the amount of torque as the "highly engineered engine" at idle

But the engine is twice as big also. I think what the other person meant was that hondas could take a lot of punishment and that way they could get the most power out of a small engine.

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RE: Killed a mustang! - 7/12/2006 10:09:32 AM

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^^^yeah what he said exactly....
civics dont have much torque because the engine is only 1.6ltrs or 2 now...so how can you compare it???
also in my post i said that muscle cars can get and have power easily...but that doesnt mean it is engineered well, hell if making a engine 4656456546 ltrs is the only way you can get power, well then wow....but seriously with most domestic v6/v8's to get any reasonable amount of reliable power you have to replace rods, bolts, debur the block/head, align the bores, fix the retared flow issue with the head...is all this worth it??? no...
honda engines dont need you to replace every freakin part to get power out of them...now with engines such as the d16, were the connecting rods are made out of straw yeah you have to replace that, but what else, nothing because then the d16 is as strong as the b16....
so all i was saying is that domestic engines suffer from crappy design...thats all, i said nothing about their power...

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RE: Killed a mustang! - 7/12/2006 10:20:55 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: BurryTheSpeedo

...but that doesnt mean it is engineered well, hell if making a engine 4656456546 ltrs is the only way you can get power, well then wow....but seriously with most domestic v6/v8's to get any reasonable amount of reliable power you have to replace rods, bolts, debur the block/head, align the bores, fix the retared flow issue with the head...is all this worth it??? no...

sure that all sounds good, but is it true? Nope not in the slightlest. Who said thats the only way you can get the power? Face it V8s are a staple of American culture thats just the way it is...

Name me one domestic performance V8 that you have to replace rods, bolts or do any internal work to make in or above 400hp. an LS1, LS2, 5.0, 4.6,5.4, 5.7hemi, 6.1 hemi, will all make over 400hp without having to do any internal work and still be driven everyday....you can complain about the engineering in the pushrod V8, but you cant knock its reliability which has stood the test of time and then some.

Name me ONE honda 4 cylinder motor that can take up to 500whp and still be driven everyday on stock internals. I can name 3 domestic motors that can do that off the cuff. the 03/04 Cobra V8, the 5.4 GT500 motor, and the 2.4 liter SRT4 engine....along with about a dozen motors made in the 60's and 70's.

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RE: Killed a mustang! - 7/12/2006 10:47:17 AM

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my engine is running stock rods, crank and block, and although its 36 years old, im making around 360whp...that would put me around 465 at the crank...thats with pump gas and mufflers...