OK This is for the EBAY Chips
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OK This is for the EBAY Chips - 9/14/2006 5:27:01 PM
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Marty
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Ok to the point i am tired of seeing the whole ebay chip thing gone over and over and over.
For one thing a 96+ honda ecu can not be chipped, simple as that.
Ok now that's out of the way I will keep this short. A ebay chip reprograms the air/fuel maps on a stock obd1 ecu. Sounds good right? NO. You never tune air/fuel tables on a wim without the correct methods to chart what you are doing or have done to your car. What people fail to realize is that other than the "chips" leaning the hell out of your a/f ratios which is not good unless you have the supporting mods to handle and keep track of it, they never alter timing. So your running around lean as hell on stock timing on a engine that was made to get the best fuel economy it can. You start getting pinging or knock, but your great new little chip is fooling your knock sensor to think that it is not so the stock function of the ecu/knock sensor which will compensate and advance/retard timing to make up for your lean condition is not doing it's job. This makes it so there is no safe mode on your ecu, no safe mode = engine blowing the first time you
1. Get Bad Gas
2. Pre-Detenate enough to blow a hole through the piston(which is alot more often than you think) People would be shocked because about 95% of honda's if you were to pull trouble codes from the ecu you would pick up on atleast 1 cyl mis-fire in the past week. And that is even when it never throws a CEL.
It simply aint a good idea, you still have to get your ecu socketed to accept the chip and it hardly cost anything to have somebody burn a uberdata or crome chip for your application and still retain factory sensors ability to keep the engine together. Honda knows what they are doing with their ecu's, they for the most part are pulling as much power as they can in stock or near stock form and that is why you dont see much gain with bolt ons......once again for the most part.
All EBAY CHIP threads for now on will be closed and I will put a link to this in it. If anyone chooses to talk about them do it here.
< Message edited by Marty -- 9/14/2006 7:33:35 PM >
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RE: OK This is for the EBAY Chips - 9/14/2006 6:25:19 PM
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Fiasco
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good knowledge right there.
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RE: OK This is for the EBAY Chips - 9/15/2006 12:47:17 AM
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Roto
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and if you need more info on chipping an obd1 honda ecu...pm, me....or whatever other method of communication you choose. There is a reason to chip an ecu and that reson is not to add 20whp to a bone stock motor. That just doesn't happen. And if it does...the engine lasts 10 minutes or less. So let's read up and do it when necessary and the right way the first time, shall we?
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RE: OK This is for the EBAY Chips - 9/15/2006 1:08:04 AM
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Marty
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Yea if you have ever heard that a engine runs it's best right before it blows up it's cause more times than not it is running lean and while lean will make more power it will also heat the cyl up and make the fuel just burst into flames before the piston gets to the correct point and before the plug ignites it. This is called detonation
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