RE: Suspension: Konis, Ground Controls, and more
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RE: Suspension: Konis, Ground Controls, and more - 10/11/2006 2:48:47 PM
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mxs
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since the course changes at every event, I can't really compare before and after...
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RE: Suspension: Konis, Ground Controls, and more - 10/11/2006 3:28:39 PM
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jake11375
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Oh, ok. Since I haven't attended many to compare, I was wondering if autocross worked that way or not. Nonetheless, it would have been interesting to see the time differences though.
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RE: Suspension: Konis, Ground Controls, and more - 12/11/2006 2:44:35 AM
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POLYTHING
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omg! msx! awesome! i need your help in doing my suspension for the next autox event. I stil have so many questions:
what are those red plastic gonna do?
are those for the rear only?
the ground control bar is the same things as sway bar?
do you have lower front and rear strut bars?
PM me.
I try to look for the stuff on ebay!
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RE: Suspension: Konis, Ground Controls, and more - 12/21/2006 11:38:41 PM
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mxs
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The "red plastic" is polyurethane bushings, they replace the stock rubber bushings. They are stiffer so they take out a lot of the slop in the suspension. I only have them in the back. I only put a sway bar in the back, I have a bigger strut bar in the back and stiffer springs in the back too. This makes the car rotate a LOT better, I can DESTROY slaloms now, but it also makes it very touchy and "high strung" on the street if you are not used to it. Now that I'm switching between two cars, every time I get in the Civic I have to remind myself how to drive it without ending up in oncoming traffic. 
For you I would suggest getting the Konis and Ground Controls, but with the standard spring rates. You can always upgrade them later! The springs are available separately. So next year if you want to go stiffer you can just replace the springs. And I'd suggest getting a smaller rear swaybar to start with.
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the ground control bar is the same things as sway bar?
I never said anything about a "ground control bar" -- mine is from Suspension Techniques
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RE: Suspension: Konis, Ground Controls, and more - 12/25/2006 11:17:33 PM
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mxs
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no, I still think you should get what I suggested above. The stuff you're looking at isn't any better. I'm not sure if you can use other springs with those coilovers, so you may not be able to switch to a stiffer spring later on. Plus those are progressive rate springs, comfortable for the street but the spring rate changes as they compress, which means the handling characteristics won't be consistent. And the ASR subframe brace is NOT legal in STS class.
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Driving takes 3 abilities: Accelerating+braking+turning. More power only helps acceleration. Lower weight helps all 3.
DON'T EMAIL ME W/ TECH QUESTIONS, I WILL IGNORE YOU.
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RE: Suspension: Konis, Ground Controls, and more - 12/26/2006 12:06:51 AM
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POLYTHING
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yes ma'am,
i ll copy you
do you i need camber kit too? or i just "washer trick"
i ll find the stuff and pm you the link b4 i buy.
thanks alot mxs!
happy holidayzz.!
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