Here you go Johnny, haha.:D

Alrighty, well this will be my build progress etc. Currently I have a stock D16Y8 making 210whp and 167wtq on just 7psi of boost. She's pretty quick, I am waiting for the tracks to reopen so I can shoot for a mid to low 13 before I swap to my new build. Ok, enough about what I have, let's move on to what my goals are.

Goals.
300whp+ Pump Gas (93 octane)
400whp+ Race Gas (100 octane)
11.5 Quarter Mile
130mph Trap Speed

Engine build is as follows. I will be sticking with the SOHC engine, the OBD1 D16Z6 is going to be my power plant. Oh, I payed $50 for the entire engine with intake mani and throttle body.;) So, as follows:

D16Z6 OBD1 1.6L SOHC VTEC
Entire Engine

Block :
Vitara 75mm pistons
Eagle Forged H-beam Rods
New OEM rod bearings
New OEM Water pump
New OEM Oil Pump
New Oil pan as the one that came on the engine is garbage.

Head :
Keeping stock ports
Zex 59300 cam
I'm not sure what springs I'm going with, the car will be revved to 8000-8200 so any recommendations would be cool.
Stock HG

As you can see, this is a very very simple build. I don't believe there's any reason to go overly crazy with these engines.

Transmission :
New bearings
OBX LSD
Stock 1st Gear (nothing longer:()
1.762 2nd Gear (longer than stock EX)
Stock 3rd Gear
1.033 4th Gear (shifting at 8200 RPMs I will hit the limiter at 132mph on 24" slicks)
.771 5th Gear (slightly shorter than current)
Either Action 2MD or Competition Stage 5 clutch
LSDmotorsports 11lb steel flywheel

The idea is to try to maximize the power output for those crucial 60's, and then the gearbox tightens up through 2-3-4 in order to stay in boost through the shifts.

Turbo and Fuel Setup

The overall turbo setup will only change slightly. I purchased a ramhorn style manifold to aid in top end flow in order to reach my goals. Setup will be as follows:

T3T04e (T3/T4) 57trim .63A/R and Stage 3 wheel.
CC-fab Ramhorn Manifold
38mm Tial Wastegate
3" Downpipe and full catback exhaust (may add an ecutout, we'll see)
2" Dumptube (may route it out of the bumper, fireball FTW![8D])
Upgrading to 2.5" IC piping if the current doesn't work out.
PWR intercooler 32x12x3
Greddy RS BOV
Fast Turbo Oil lines
Custom Catchcan setup
Apexi AVCR EBC

Fuel/Tuning :
Precision 780cc Injectors
Walbro 255lhp fuel pump
GM 3bar map sensor
P05 Chipped with Crome
Will be tuned by yours truly

Pictures as parts come in of course. I'll have to get pics of the stripped engine at my dad's work next time I'm down there etc. I'm hoping for the build to be done and running by Spring, so I've got some time to get my stuff together.

Pics as they come.

http://users.rcn.com/dwilz/build1.jpg

New gears. Far left, the 5th gear with main shaft, top middle is the 2nd gear, far right is the 4th gear.

http://users.rcn.com/dwilz/build2.jpg

All the tranny parts.

http://users.rcn.com/dwilz/build3.jpg

The head, little dirty but in good condition.

http://users.rcn.com/dwilz/ramhorn4.jpg

Mmmm. More goodies. Eagle rods, CCfab ramhorn, ARP head studs.

http://users.rcn.com/dwilz/ramhorn2.jpg

http://users.rcn.com/dwilz/ramhorn1.jpg

http://users.rcn.com/dwilz/ramhorn3.jpg

I love this thing, haha.

http://users.rcn.com/dwilz/build4.jpg

Fun truly does come in a box... or in this case a set of boxes haha.

http://users.rcn.com/dwilz/build5.jpg

Vitara 75mm pistons

http://users.rcn.com/dwilz/build6.jpg

Precision 780cc injectors, unsaturated

http://users.rcn.com/dwilz/build7.jpg

Zex/Comp 59300 camshaft

http://users.rcn.com/dwilz/2MD1.jpg

http://users.rcn.com/dwilz/2MD2.jpg

Action 2MD Clutch

sounds freakin sweet man. keep us posted as much as possible, with lots of pics... this sounds like its gonna be a toast to what the little d can really do, on a budget.:)

Sounds like a real nice build Sov, simple, yet very well thought out and efficient. Any particular reason why you're sticking with the stock port? And, have you given any thought to running something other than stock for your axles? With that setup I foresee you snapping an axle with every pass down the 1320 :D

Best of luck to you throughout the build. After seeing your setup as it is now, I have full confidence that the next setup will be equally clean and even more bad ass. Keep us up to date, with lots of pics

Wow man looks like you have everything figured out already. Like everyone says we need constant updates and pics or we shall sic the dogs on ye;)

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Sounds great. What alot of work..keep us posted with the build.

sweet, thats a sick sounding project, sounds like what i want to do, i will have to see what it turns out like

nice list man, and its a good mix of oem and aftermarket to build a relialbe powerful engine. props to you

ORIGINAL: Forty04

Sounds like a real nice build Sov, simple, yet very well thought out and efficient. Any particular reason why you're sticking with the stock port? And, have you given any thought to running something other than stock for your axles? With that setup I foresee you snapping an axle with every pass down the 1320 :D

Best of luck to you throughout the build. After seeing your setup as it is now, I have full confidence that the next setup will be equally clean and even more bad ass. Keep us up to date, with lots of pics


Thanks for the comments guys, I'm really anticipating this build and all of my off time has been spent reading about what I want to do.

As for the stock ports, I'm building a D because I don't have a ton of money. Good port jobs are a lot of money, that and stock ports have been proven to make 450whp.;) As for axles, again, a lot of guys running 400whp run stock axles or Autozone remans. It's all about preloading.:)

Just got my first credit card... 9K limit. Oh how tempting it is.[&:]

9K HTF cosigned you on that. mines only 500 bucks because i have small amount of credit

9k wtf, for your first card, did you have a good credit history from loans or sumthing?

Since that's your turbo/head/cam choice, I thought this might be of interest to you. http://forums.evans-tuning.com/viewtopic.php?t=4167

You might want to consider larger vitaras. I've heard the 75mm are some ten thousands (maybe even thousands) out of tolerance. I'm not sure what other sizes are available, though.

As for the springs, Akmee, Bisimoto, and Ferrea all make them. Akmee estimates theres should be good to 9500. Not sure about the other two.

Tell us how soon you can get it to spool in 2nd when you get it up and going. I bet that longer 2nd will pay off on the shift to 3rd.

ORIGINAL: cpl rampage

9k wtf, for your first card, did you have a good credit history from loans or sumthing?


Haha, the card was originally my mom's but she transfered it to me. Apparantly the limit stayed. I refuse to use it on my car though, it will be used mostly for car insurance bills.

Kedawei, the 75mm pistons go into the 75.5mm cylinder loosely, this is correct. What happens is the piston expands when it's heated up, so it actually uses those large clearances to it's advantage.

The only other size is 76mm, which is a .5mm overbore! Since I'm not sleeving the engine, this will drastically cut down the ability of the stock sleeves to support power. If I was sleeving it, this would be a good move, but it's not cost effective and people are seeing good results even with the .006-.008 ring clearances. The car just sounds like a deisel under initial startup, once the pistons expand I was told the noise quiets down a bit.

As for Jeff's dyno, he's local to here. I've seen cars dyno aweful high on that dyno, but then again Jeff is a wonderful tuner. Either way, 325-350whp on 15psi is about what I'm expecting out of this engine, and it's what I plan to run daily on pump. Should be enough to play with some C6 vettes on the freeway.;)

I'm hoping that second gear will help tighten the ever so important gap between 2-3. My only problem is going to be 1-2, but I think that will just aid in traction lol.

Hmm, very interesting setup. Id like to watch the progress and cant wait for the final product.

ORIGINAL: SovXietday
As for the stock ports, I'm building a D because I don't have a ton of money. Good port jobs are a lot of money, that and stock ports have been proven to make 450whp.;)


It's not so much about "what it can do", more so "how efficiently it gets done' ;). I see your point though, in saving a few dimes here and there. If it were me, I'd probably save the money elsewhere in the build, and go for the full port and polish. But, that's why we're not working on the same car :D

ORIGINAL: SovXietday
As for axles, again, a lot of guys running 400whp run stock axles or Autozone remans. It's all about preloading.:)

Like I said, best of luck

yay! That sounds like a badass build man. I got crazy respect for keeping the D and building it up. You Your to run 15 PSI you said? Sounds cool. That would be mindblowing for the Corvette owners.

Corvette owner: Oh look at the little Civic hhahaha
Sov: Im going to stomp your goofy ass
You race
Corvette owner: AHHHH HOW DID HE BEAT MY STUPID UGLY CORVETTE?
Sov: Im cooler than you assclown

ORIGINAL: SovXietday

Kedawei, the 75mm pistons go into the 75.5mm cylinder loosely, this is correct. What happens is the piston expands when it's heated up, so it actually uses those large clearances to it's advantage.

The only other size is 76mm, which is a .5mm overbore! Since I'm not sleeving the engine, this will drastically cut down the ability of the stock sleeves to support power. If I was sleeving it, this would be a good move, but it's not cost effective and people are seeing good results even with the .006-.008 ring clearances. The car just sounds like a deisel under initial startup, once the pistons expand I was told the noise quiets down a bit.

As for Jeff's dyno, he's local to here. I've seen cars dyno aweful high on that dyno, but then again Jeff is a wonderful tuner. Either way, 325-350whp on 15psi is about what I'm expecting out of this engine, and it's what I plan to run daily on pump. Should be enough to play with some C6 vettes on the freeway.;)

I'm hoping that second gear will help tighten the ever so important gap between 2-3. My only problem is going to be 1-2, but I think that will just aid in traction lol.



Well all pistons heat and expand, but proper tolerances are what makes anything mechanical survive and last, provided it's well designed to begin with. You say people have had good results though, so I guess I'll have to scoop around turbod16 a bit more. ;)

I seem to remember reading of one manufacturer that made a 0.020" OS, but it costs like $100 more than the standard 75 and 76mm. Is this true or false to your knowledge?

As for second gear, even with a 1.944 ZC second and GT28 turbo, I don't think you'd be able to keep it in boost. Besides, the longer gear actually might help it spool faster, as you see on dynos between 2nd and 4th gear pulls. I'm no expert on turbos or gearing though.

ORIGINAL: Kedawei
Well all pistons heat and expand, but proper tolerances are what makes anything mechanical survive and last, provided it's well designed to begin with. You say people have had good results though, so I guess I'll have to scoop around turbod16 a bit more. ;)

I seem to remember reading of one manufacturer that made a 0.020" OS, but it costs like $100 more than the standard 75 and 76mm. Is this true or false to your knowledge?



Check out this link.

http://www.turbod16.com/viewtopic.php?t=31192

As for the Vitara's coming in .020 oversized, to my knowledge that is false. They only come in 75mm and 76mm, but that's only as far as I know. As for the 1-2 gearing I would need a longer 1st in order to keep the turbo spooling in the 1-2 shift. I know it doesn't stay spooling as it is now, so it's going to be worse but oh well. The longer second gear should cause the turbo to spool sooner, and I'll also reach 70mph (or whatever it redlines at exactly) faster. I don't really expect to get any kind of traction until 3rd on the street anyway.[8D]

I want the engine to be stock bore/stock port for the most part. From what I've seen porting a Dseries doesn't make a huge improvement unless it's an in depth port. Also, because of the extremely small quench areas and the engines just not liking timing they're only going to make so much power, I've seen people port and pick up 5whp.[&:] That's my main reason, as for the axles, watch, just because I said stockers will be fine I'm going to snap them in half my first run down the street.[:@] Lol.

Johnny, it will be 15psi on pump gas, IE what I'll be driving daily on the street. At the track I'll probably be running in the range of 25-30psi.;)

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someone had to do it

hard to do pics when there isnt much to take pics of seeing as those are his plans.. Although when you do the build we will need pics or motion to ban hahaha j/p

Ok ok, I only have a couple of pics because I don't have all that much that i'm changing out. I'll have to get pics of the block next time I'm down at my dad's shop.

Pics on page 1

K sweet Sov

ORIGINAL: SovXietday

The longer second gear should cause the turbo to spool sooner, and I'll also reach 70mph (or whatever it redlines at exactly) faster. I don't really expect to get any kind of traction until 3rd on the street anyway.[8D]



That is what I was thinking. Good. :)

As for porting, I agree. The Z6 head seems to do well in stock form, much like the open B16 head on B series. You just need to get the right cam.

sh*t man, looks like youreally know what youre doin :)should be amazing

Last night I ordered the Eagle rods, and I also sent the 1.033 4th gear out to a local guy in Ohio for some modification to make it fit in the EX tranny. He will be sending back the gear with a 2nd gear synchro so that I have one when I go in as I'm pretty sure mine is bad.

Still waiting for pistons to come off backorder, as soon as they come in I just need to order the rest of the OEM stuff and I can start building the engine.

Waaay nice!

This is going to be super sweet. However, I think you should have looked into the eagle a little more. I almost bought eagles myself until i found numerous comlaints about piston slapping.

To my knowledge, improperly clearanced pistons cause piston slapping, not rods. I guess they maybe could if they were offset, but I'd imagine you'd have several other worse problems at that point.

I have heard of numerous accounts of Eagles spinning rod bearings, however. (Which is why I will probably buy Crower.)

ORIGINAL: Kedawei

To my knowledge, improperly clearanced pistons cause piston slapping, not rods. I guess they maybe could if they were offset, but I'd imagine you'd have several other worse problems at that point.

I have heard of numerous accounts of Eagles spinning rod bearings, however. (Which is why I will probably buy Crower.)



The problem I found with the eagle pistons was because they would slightly expand.

Didn't know they made pistons.

oh crap. Haha! Im an idiot. You know how you are thinking about one thing and say soemthign different? Thats what happened.

I was thinking SRP's. Sorry. They tend to slap untill they are heated up. Thats from what I have heard.

Yeah haha, the Eagles I got are my rods.;) They have been known to spin rod bearings but that's because they are heavy and not meant to be spun to 9-10K in the Bseries engines. I haven't heard of any kinds of issues at all, especially now that they upgraded to a 3/8 bolt.

^ Interesting.

ORIGINAL: Remmy

oh crap. Haha! Im an idiot. You know how you are thinking about one thing and say soemthign different? Thats what happened.

I was thinking SRP's. Sorry. They tend to slap untill they are heated up. Thats from what I have heard.



Ha yeah. No wonder they're so cheap, eh?

ORIGINAL: Kedawei

^ Interesting.


Yet at the same time since they upgraded the bolts I haven't seen any issue at all? So I don't really know, haha.

All I know is they're great rods and will work wonderfully for me.

Heads looks pretty clean to me, nice pics. [sm=smiley20.gif]

damn im jealous lol

ORIGINAL: Kedawei

Heads looks pretty clean to me, nice pics. [sm=smiley20.gif]


Thanks man.

Eagle rods showed up today. Very sexy pieces, I'll take some pics tomorrow.:)

Ordered a set of Precision 780cc injectors last night.

Ramhorn should be coming in today, will get pics when it shows up.

ORIGINAL: SovXietday

Ramhorn should be coming in today, will get pics when it shows up.



Ha, you must have ordered it 6 months ago.

Educate me on a 'ramhorn'

ORIGINAL: Remmy

Educate me on a 'ramhorn'


It's one of the best turbo manifold designs.

Here's his: http://www.ccfabonline.com/displayProductDocument.hg?productId=2&categoryId=4

The runners are long, which prevents backpressure from building within the manifold at higher rpms. Also note it's runners are of equal length. This prevents exhaust pulses from interfering with each other on the way to the turbo. The wastegate placement is also usually good on ramhorns, allowing for more accurate boost control.

Jeff Evans/Full-Race did a comparison of a log manifold vs. full-race's ramhorn. On the exact same setup, the log netted 250whp, while the ramhorn made 300. That's a lot of difference for one mod, eh?

Ramhorns are $$$$$$ thou

A lot of companies overcharge for log manifolds too.

The trick to buying a manifold, is to buy one used. I picked up this bad boy for $400 shipped. In this case, by used I really mean brand new from a private seller. He actually milled all the flanges and cleaned up the manifold with a dremel before selling it to me, it never made it onto his car. Kickass.

Pics.

http://users.rcn.com/dwilz/ramhorn4.jpg

http://users.rcn.com/dwilz/ramhorn2.jpg

http://users.rcn.com/dwilz/ramhorn1.jpg

http://users.rcn.com/dwilz/ramhorn3.jpg

http://users.rcn.com/dwilz/rods.jpg

The manifold is such a nice piece, the pics really don't do it justice.

damn that manifold is so sweet. i can't wait until i can upgrade my manifold. i can't wait to see what this build puts out. good luck with it all man.

nice manifold i know my custom topmount and 3" downpipe is 1000 bucks

^ Top mount. Damn, nice. That IS the best mani design that I know of.

dude that manifold is F****** SICK. you got good taste SovX;)gonna be real nice when it's done!!!


"Jeff Evans/Full-Race did a comparison of a log manifold vs. full-race's ramhorn. On the exact same setup, the log netted 250whp, while the ramhorn made 300. That's a lot of difference for one mod, eh?"

Wow that's crazy. i never thought that they would make that much of a difference. i need one soooooooooooo bad!!!!!!!!!!!

<<dying of jealousy

Got the pistons in the other day. 780cc injectors came in too.

Build officially starts wednesday, I'll be getting pictures that day of everything. Transmission build is happening 2nd weekend of Feb, have all the parts just waiting for the last bit.

Getting there, getting there.:)

Im excited!

Oh, almost forgot. I got the 59300 cam as well.

wow I really wanna see this beast, just may make my change my mind about D's

Nice! thoughs are so sick, when I worked at a shop the installer was fabricating one..it was pretty sweet to watch it go toughter.

subscribed to this awesome thread. its interesting because i cant decide ifi wanna build a turbo d like you, or h22 swap. its killin me.

Yay, more updates!

The other day went to my dad's shop to work on the engine. Pulled and checked the crank, wrapped all of the bearings, inspected again and everything seems to be great so far. Pulled all the pumps, decided we're just going to reuse the oil pump and replace the water pump. Also made our markings for the block notching. Next time I go down we're going to notch and clean the block. Then we have to put the pistons on the rods and put them into the block, measure and plastigauge all of the rod bearings, and then bolt it all together. Tada, bottom end!:)

Here are a few more pics (will add them to the front page as well).

http://users.rcn.com/dwilz/build4.jpg

http://users.rcn.com/dwilz/build5.jpg
Vitara 75mm pistons, also known as YCP pistons.
http://users.rcn.com/dwilz/build6.jpg
Precision 780cc injectors, non-saturated.
http://users.rcn.com/dwilz/build7.jpg
Zex 59300 Camshaft, mmm.

Nice pics Sov! im eyeing this thread:)

ahhh so your dad has a engine shop...well i bet that helps out alot. Keep up with the updates

hey Sov i see ur going with vitara pistons. any specific reason why u went with those and not cp's orje's? just wonderin' if there's any difference in quality between the three.

Ah those rings look familiar... Loads of those boxes in the shop

ORIGINAL: Skrapdoggydog

hey Sov i see ur going with vitara pistons. any specific reason why u went with those and not cp's orje's? just wonderin' if there's any difference in quality between the three.


Price. Forged internals are stronger, but Vitaras should be all he needs for the power he's wanting.

so vitara's arenot forged. i figured they were. how much horsepower can they support?why are they alot cheaper than je and cp? is it all about how much power they can support/handle?

Sorry about all the questions but i am going to be gettingpistons, rods, etc. this summer and want to do my homework before buying anything:DThanks

Skrappy, if you have a Bseries engine you can't use Vitara's, they're only made for Dseries.

But Vitara's are a mere step under forged, they have a high temp coating on them, they have a deep dish which helps with the combustion, they have much larger ringlands than most forged pistons, and best of all, they're cheap! They have supported upwards 420whp and can easily support more.

My dad doesn't own an engine shop, he's a mechanic at a Honda dealer lol. He knows anything and everything about stock cars, but when it comes to the aftermarket world he's at a complete loss. He helps me with the mechanics, but I have to do all the research and buy my own parts... he's asks questions about turbo's like you guys do. [8D]

Yea but I bet he knows his way around a 350 like nobodys business.

A tree-fitty?

oh wow i didn't know that vitara's only fit D's. thanks for the info Sov.

ORIGINAL: Skrapdoggydog
so vitara's arenot forged. i figured they were. how much horsepower can they support?why are they alot cheaper than je and cp? is it all about how much power they can support/handle?


i think they are mainly a stock replacement piston that you can get overboard

they arnt stock replacements, they are actually low compression pistons, in the case of d16z6 it brings it down from 9.x to about 8.5

woah so much info so little time

They are stock replacement pistons for Suzuki Vitaras. OEM. Compression is closer to 8:1 in a Z6. You have to use a thinner headgasket, or mill the head/block to get it higher.

Also, I found a manufacturer that produces a .5mm OS Vitara. Topline.

And Pete is refering to a Chevy 350 (350 cubic inch V8).

From all of the information I have the compression with Vitara's come out to be 9:1 or slightly lower?

Is that the original engine that came in the car?

ORIGINAL: SovXietday

From all of the information I have the compression with Vitara's come out to be 9:1 or slightly lower?


http://zealautowerks.com/dseries.html

~8.13:1 in stock form.

then stock compression is 9.1, and the vitaras bring it down to about 8.13 like kedawei said

Interesting, I didn't know that.

Sov, any particular reason you went with the 59300 cam?

Simple really, it has proven results over and over again. I've seen simple setups in the low 200 range get 25-30whp gains with just a cam change, and the fact that you can run it on stock drivetrain (I don't think I will be) is a plus too.:)

Pure curiousity, thanks!

Today was tranny day here. Rebuilt the tranny and I'm very happy with the results.

New setup.

OBX LSD
Final: 4.25(stock)

1st: 3.25(stock =( )
2nd: 1.762
3rd: 1.25 (stock)
4th: 1.033
5th: .771

Step one, take tranny out of the car.

http://users.rcn.com/dwilz/tranny1.jpg

Check. The LSD clutch is pretty beat, but we dropped in an 11lb flywheel while we were at it. =)

Step Two, pull off the bell housing and expose the cluster**** of confusion.

http://users.rcn.com/dwilz/tranny2.jpg

http://users.rcn.com/dwilz/tranny3.jpg

Here's mid way through fitting the LSD. Had to do some grinding to the case in order to clear everything correctly, had to install the new bearings on the LSD along with the speedo and ring gear.

http://users.rcn.com/dwilz/tranny4.jpg

After 2 hours of fitting the OBX LSD. Was ready to throw it across the room. :P

http://users.rcn.com/dwilz/tranny5.jpg

Finally got the LSD in and shimmed correctly. Also got the mainshaft and countershaft completely assembled in about 30 minutes. Easy as pie. We fitted everything and bolted it all down. Now to put the case on.

Waaaait a minute. That's apparantly easier said than done. We tried putting the bell housing back on for over an hour!!! It would not go back on correctly, couldn't figure out why until we found a piece of plastic laying on the LSD when we pulled off the bell housing for the 2278364894576362x.

We look into the bottom of the bell housing, and there was the oil guide plate. Plastic piece, guides oil down into the mainshaft... yup, it was broken. FUUUUUCK! Well we realized that was why it wouldn't go on, the guideplate didn't fit into the new mainshaft.

So, if you're ever in a pickle with a broken guideplate and don't know what to do, you can always look down at your feet and pull out the metal guideplate from a 99 Automatic Element transmission, grind down to fit and drill a few holes. Like so:

http://users.rcn.com/dwilz/tranny6.jpg

http://users.rcn.com/dwilz/tranny7.jpg

Fits like a glove.

Then, when you want to realize that you could have saved yourself about 2 hours of time trying to fit the case on, breaking a guide plate, and modifying another... you can just pull out the small fitting in the top of the mainshaft and it will fit the first time around. :| :P

Whatever you decide, this is a finished product.

http://users.rcn.com/dwilz/tranny8.jpg

http://users.rcn.com/dwilz/tranny9.jpg

What a difference this makes! 2nd to 3rd shift falls about 1500 rpms and 3rd to 4th falls about 1000 at full throttle. The acceleration is so much smoother and there is no respool, it's just full boost through 4th. =)

May have some burnout vids and a 2 through 4 pull tomorrow so everyone can just listen to the difference. =)

Yesss!~ Make with the vids! I have never even seen your interior! Nice pics Sov. When dou expect to be done your build?

Yeees, we got alot of builds going on huh?
Keep up the good work!

That is a good cam. Good dur/lift to carry torque.

Great update, man I would love to sink my hands back into a tranny or somthing and fix it. Man I miss working at a shop.

Keep up the good work sov!!

another task crossed off the list!! keep up the nice work Sov:D i wish i knew how 2 do stuff like this!

nice http://www.hondacivicforum.com/micons/m6.gif

I took my friend out for a ride in it tonight, yeesh 4th gear feels like a rocket! I was having trouble keeping it on my side of the road, damn torque steer.[8D]

Gonna try to get video tomorrow, burnout is a maybe because my clutch is pretty warn but we'll see.

Ah, I love watching your car evolve. I wish I had the money to do all this sexy stuff.

ORIGINAL: SovXietday

I took my friend out for a ride in it tonight, yeesh 4th gear feels like a rocket! I was having trouble keeping it on my side of the road, damn torque steer.[8D]

Gonna try to get video tomorrow, burnout is a maybe because my clutch is pretty warn but we'll see.



Cool even if you just have a in car video cruise i'll be happy:)

looks great! really coming along. congrats

what do you do for a job sov?

Salesman at Circuit City, full time right now. I get barely 30 hours a week though, so I'm probably going to start looking for another job.

The tranny really didn't cost me that much.

All the gears and tidbits - $100
New Bearings - $100
OBX LSD - $350

Where did you purchase the LSD? (too lazy to check the first page)

http://www.sparktecmotorsports.com/obxls88hocic.html

Sov, I took a look at your tranny and you are going to be snapping necks! Can't wait!

have you decided what springs and/or retainers to go with?

Yeah, I went with stock retainers and ZEX springs.

Last night I tore apart the head, waiting on some new valve seals before I reassemble it. I still can't believe I picked this engine up for $50, the head is in EMMACULATE condition aside from some carbon build up (which we washed out). It's straighter than an arrow and has been milled .005 which will help bump the low compression that the vitara's suffer. Dropping the 59300 and new valve springs in soon, then we're gonna be rockin. :)

Bearings for the engine come in tomorrow, so assembly starts next week! :D

My clutch came in last night. Holy mofo look at this thing!

http://users.rcn.com/dwilz/2MD1.jpg

http://users.rcn.com/dwilz/2MD2.jpg

My left foot immediately kicked me in the ass after seeing the double thickness diaphram, lol. This thing is gonna SUCK in traffic.

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My clutch came in last night. Holy mofo look at this thing!

http://users.rcn.com/dwilz/2MD1.jpg

http://users.rcn.com/dwilz/2MD2.jpg

My left foot immediately kicked me in the ass after seeing the double thickness diaphram, lol. This thing is gonna SUCK in traffic.



and unsprung too, dam thats gonna sux, who makes it anyways

Action 2MD

image how big your left foot is gonna get

have a tank ass shin. Nice looking anyway! Lol

ORIGINAL: SovXietday

My clutch came in last night. Holy mofo look at this thing!



My left foot immediately kicked me in the ass after seeing the double thickness diaphram, lol. This thing is gonna SUCK in traffic.



Psshhhh!!! Try me amigo. Ask Tony how 'light' my clutch is. Im at the point to when I drive a 'regular' clutch, it feels like a gas pedal.

True story^

ORIGINAL: Remmy

ORIGINAL: SovXietday

My clutch came in last night. Holy mofo look at this thing!



My left foot immediately kicked me in the ass after seeing the double thickness diaphram, lol. This thing is gonna SUCK in traffic.



Psshhhh!!! Try me amigo. Ask Tony how 'light' my clutch is. Im at the point to when I drive a 'regular' clutch, it feels like a gas pedal.



What clutch do you have lol? This clutch is a 1700lb pressure plate.

I had an ACT Xtreme Pressure plate with a 6-puck race disk. The damn pedal would cripple my ankle for weeks and it would charlie horse my calf sometimes if I drove in heavy traffic for too long.

Basically, the damn setup was strictly for off road drag racing. But now I have a Centerforce street kit. The clutch is still a little hard to handle the power but not nearly as bad as it was.

Damn that's acctually not good. That would piss me off sooo bad.

Ah ok, so the ACT I want to say XTSS or something like that. I've heard they're good clutches, but not street clutches.

Lots more pics! Built the head today, going back Friday to do as much as I can to the block.

http://users.rcn.com/dwilz/head1.jpg

Cleaned and bare.

http://users.rcn.com/dwilz/head2.jpg

Zex Springs and Cam installed. What a royal pain in the butt it was to put the keepers in for the retainers, yeesh!

http://users.rcn.com/dwilz/head3.jpg

http://users.rcn.com/dwilz/head4.jpg

http://users.rcn.com/dwilz/head5.jpg

All done kids! (We put bolts in the missing bolt holes you see, don't worry lol)

http://users.rcn.com/dwilz/head6.jpg

http://users.rcn.com/dwilz/head7.jpg

http://users.rcn.com/dwilz/head8.jpg

http://users.rcn.com/dwilz/head9.jpg

Haha, I really couldn't resist. I can't wait to put this thing in the engine bay. :)

I got some pictures of the block while I was at it.

http://users.rcn.com/dwilz/block1.jpg

The block. We stripped it a while ago, it's already notched and just waiting for assembly.

http://users.rcn.com/dwilz/block2.jpg

Looking down the cylinder. Remember, I picked this block up for $50 and it has not and will not be seeing the maching shop. Doesn't need to!

http://users.rcn.com/dwilz/block3.jpg

And a fitting last picture.

That's what I've got today, pictures again when I can get them (which will probably the the whole thing together ready to go in).

Nicely done bro, this things going to be a screamer.

Do you drink a lot of wine at the shop? :D

That head is soooo tiny looking! Lol.

That thing is going to tear it up though. Btw, if you havent already planned on it, i wouldnt screw with the cam gear. Leave the stocker on.

wow sov looks like you got things really going there man. can't wait to see this in the engine bay either, gonna be a screamer!

sick work man, is that with the new cam already, and are you gonna use the stock gear?

who makes that manifold, is it ac compatable? how much?

nice pics sov! That motor is going to be sooo sick. when isit going to be up and running?

Forty, drink a lot of wine? I don't get it, lol.

Remmy, yeah, keeping the stocker cam gear on. I'm even gonna try to put the cover over it to make the engine look stockish.[8D]

CPL, yup, that's the cam and new valve springs. The manifold is a CCfab ramhorn manifold, I bought it off of someone else for $400, I think they normally go for ~$500ish. And no, I pulled my AC out ages ago.

As far as being up and running. I'm shooting for April, but it goes in when it's ready to go in. ;)

haha sweet Sov. You know your going to have to make us a kill video eh? Lol

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Forty, drink a lot of wine? I don't get it, lol.


http://users.rcn.com/dwilz/block2.jpg

Looks like a bottle of wine in the background :D

It looks like a champaign bottle.. but A for effort tony!:D

ORIGINAL: Remmy

It looks like a champaign bottle.. but A for effort tony!:D


you're so gay

ORIGINAL: Forty04

ORIGINAL: Remmy

It looks like a champaign bottle.. but A for effort tony!:D


you're so gay


1) it's champaigne

and 2) looks like martnelli's sparkling cider (whoops extra n)

ORIGINAL: cderalow

ORIGINAL: Remmy

It looks like a champaign bottle.. but A for effort tony! :D



it's champaigne



Champagne.

meh, whatever.

Lol, never even saw that bottle. I think it's just oil, don't want to really drink it...[8D]

Boost controller came in today, say hello to the AVC-R from APEXi. ;)

http://users.rcn.com/dwilz/AVCR1.jpg

http://users.rcn.com/dwilz/AVCR2.jpg

http://users.rcn.com/dwilz/AVCR3.jpg

Hells YEAH! :D

Oooh wow what a sexy piece!

damn Sov you got good taste when it comes to buying parts;)excellent choice!

thats sick man

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Oooh wow what a sexy piece!


That's what she said!:D

haha Nice Boost controller man

sexy.

I installed it last night haha, I'll get some pics of it tomorrow. :)

Okay.

How much did the BC run you?

Ugh, sorry guys no pics today, I completely forgot.

I bought it off someone who got confused by it for $330, brand new. :)

^ haah nice, thats the way to do it

ORIGINAL: SovXietday

Ugh, sorry guys no pics today, I completely forgot.

I bought it off someone who got confused by it for $330, brand new. :)



Sweet deal. Didn't they have instructions? I have never seen your interior. I wanna see those de sol seats!

http://users.rcn.com/dwilz/seats2.jpg

http://users.rcn.com/dwilz/seats1.jpg

Still haven't gotten pictures, eh, I'm lazy, sue me. [8D]

By the time I get this car done it's going to need a cage and a friggen 5 point harness... damnit lol.

Nice Del Sol Seats! Allwell... How close are you to finishing the motor? And Any new Kill Stories !!!?!!?

I've heard Prelude and S2000 seats are pretty cool. I'm not feeling the Del Sol seat though sorry man.

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I've heard Prelude and S2000 seats are pretty cool. I'm not feeling the Del Sol seat though sorry man.


It's cool, they don't really look that great but they're comfortable as hell and cheap as hell. ;)

Johnny, haven't raced anything lately. No real reason beyond not running into anything to race, which pisses me off because I want to try out the new tranny against a poor unsuspecting victim. [8D]

Saturday I'm going to be putting the majority of the engine together, and then overnighting the rod bearings and bolting the rest of it together on mon/tues when I get the bearings. Then the engine will be built and ready to rock. Getting it in the car is a whole different story though, I need to order downpipe material and other crap like that before it's ready to drop in, probably won't be in till mid May. [&:]

Mid May! Damnit!! i thought i was going to getto go for a ride in ur car at the carlisle show. oh well, i guess you can't rush perfection;)sometime this summer we'll have to meet up and go for a cruise:D

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Mid May! Damnit!! i thought i was going to getto go for a ride in ur car at the carlisle show. oh well, i guess you can't rush perfection;)sometime this summer we'll have to meet up and go for a cruise:D


Haha, well you never know I might be able to get it in before that, but I doubt it so don't count on it. Meeting up is cool though, I can do that. I go to Honda meets throughout the year. I'll let you know what ones I go to.

i guess is you want to play, You got to wait a long time, Lol! I bet you cant wait to try out those new gears, Your 4th gear was beast in that video! Allwell. Keep us posted. Your civic is my FAV civic.

id be carefull with stock sleeves. it may be able to hold 400+ hp but for how long?

There are quite a few guys making 400+ on stock sleeves, it's all about getting the timing right. Detonation will crack the sleeves, boost pressure alone will not.;)

o im not saying that it wont hold it. its been done several times. are you looking for longitivity out of the motor like a couple years. or a couple months then on to something different.

Basically, as long as it lasts is as long as it's going to last. By then hopefully I'll have a DD and I'll retire the D16 for something faster.:)

As I said before, I started to build the engine today.

http://users.rcn.com/dwilz/build8.jpg

Ported the oil pump to help with oil flow.

http://users.rcn.com/dwilz/build9.jpg

Rear main seal and oil pump.

http://users.rcn.com/dwilz/build10.jpg

Mmmm, crankalishious.

http://users.rcn.com/dwilz/build11.jpg

All new main bearings!

http://users.rcn.com/dwilz/build12.jpg

Crank installed.

We plastiguaged the rods bearings, will be overnighting them on Monday (from Japanhttp://www.hondacivicforum.com/image/s3.gif) and then putting the engine completely together on Tuesday. :)

Oh, and remember how the rule of thumb for the Dseries engines is 250whp at most because the rods tend to let go after that. Here's why.

http://users.rcn.com/dwilz/vsrod.jpg

Left: Stock - Right: Eagle ;)

Ahhhh, I can't wait to get this damn thing together. :D

man that new rod looks so much more beefier! haha

ORIGINAL: johnny

man that new rod looks so much more beefier! haha


Thats cuz it is lol

Dude Jetta rods are bigger than Honda rods. LOL! I've never noticed that.

ORIGINAL: 98 CivicDx

ORIGINAL: johnny

man that new rod looks so much more beefier! haha


Thats cuz it is lol


Thats why i said it. Lol. and Injen, you have a VW or you just have seen one?

Well, to think this posted started on the 9th of January.

The engine is finally DONE!!

God damnit I am so stoked to get everything in. Just a few more things to order and then we'll be ready for install.

Sorry guys, no pics though. Didn't have my camera on me today.

Whoooo. im excited to see the results. I bet its fast as hell! Videos Sov! Lots of videos!

Haha, I might be heading back to the dyno tomorrow for a few pulls. Charity pulls for a friend of mine who got into a really bad accident, so I should be able to post those up if I end up getting on the dyno.

Sweet man, Im looking foreward to it, I've enjoyed seeing your car being transformed into a street monster... even if i wasn't really there for the JRSC haha. Good luck!

This is going to be pretty dam cool

hells yeah, post them up soon if you made it there

very nice

Well the little Y8 pushed out an extra 7whp. Since the last dyno, the car got a full exhaust and a new tune.:)

http://users.rcn.com/dwilz/217dyno.jpg

And of course, the video.;)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ezjIM_plPGQ

One last dyno before you pull the engine? lol. Sweet, can't wait to see the new build in there.

sick, cant wait to see what kind of power the new setup makes, keep us updated

Nice man, I watched your other two vids aswell! hah Cant wait to see the civic finished.

Damn, the dyno sounds awesome

Really nice Sov, she's soooo damn smooth!

i just read all 11 pages and this is amazing :Dcusotm built tranny like that is reeally impressive me, custom gears to stay in boost all the way through 4th haha, thats just awseoms Sov :)cant wait to see the final results of it!

ORIGINAL: FlipHKD720

i just read all 11 pages and this is amazing :Dcusotm built tranny like that is reeally impressive me, custom gears to stay in boost all the way through 4th haha, thats just awseoms Sov :)cant wait to see the final results of it!


Well, anybody can stay in boost if they know how to drive. I can until the car hits redlin in 5th gear.

my bad Rem, didnt know [&:]custom building that tranny like that just seemed impressive

ORIGINAL: Remmy

ORIGINAL: FlipHKD720

i just read all 11 pages and this is amazing :Dcusotm built tranny like that is reeally impressive me, custom gears to stay in boost all the way through 4th haha, thats just awseoms Sov :)cant wait to see the final results of it!


Well, anybody can stay in boost if they know how to drive. I can until the car hits redlin in 5th gear.



No offense Remmy, but that's a rather ignorant statement.

First of all, you're on a Greddy kit with a Bseries and S20 trans, of course you're not going to fall out of boost between shifts. You spool early and you have much tighter gear ratios than a stock Dseries.

Second of all, when you full spool at 5000 in 4th gear you will fall out of boost with a stock Dseries transmission and 7200 redline. Simple gearing dynamics, the car will fall to 4500rpms in each shift whether you have a lightning fast shift or not, there is no way around it beyond increasing the redline, regearing the transmission, or both.

Ok guys/girls, install of the new engine starts on the 18th of May.:) Should be done shortly after, and then I think on my birthday (May 25) I'm gonna hit the dyno and do some tuning... we'll see if I have race gas available for that or not.

But anyway, it's going in that weekend.:D

Cool Sov, I can't wait to see this beast on the road.

sickk
i guess ill return from ottawa to see some cool stuff on HCF

Looks like a really cool build. I'm wondering how much the build ended up costing you all together? I'm thinking about doing a build with a B18B but I'm not sure how much it will run me.

^+1 Id like the know ballpark how much this thing cost you?

a pretty good bit....but hes buying most everything new....it could be done cheaper...but thats a DAMN good quality build...cant wait to see install pix, and of course, dyno runs/highway pulls!

Good work sov, keep it up!

No offense Remmy, but that's a rather ignorant statement.

First of all, you're on a Greddy kit with a Bseries and S20 trans, of course you're not going to fall out of boost between shifts. You spool early and you have much tighter gear ratios than a stock Dseries.

Second of all, when you full spool at 5000 in 4th gear you will fall out of boost with a stock Dseries transmission and 7200 redline. Simple gearing dynamics, the car will fall to 4500rpms in each shift whether you have a lightning fast shift or not, there is no way around it beyond increasing the redline, regearing the transmission, or both.

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Good point. I didnt think of that. FTR, ive never claimed to be the master mech around here.

Touche :D

ORIGINAL: Remmy


Good point. I didnt think of that. FTR, ive never claimed to be the master mech around here.

Touche :D



No worries, it's one of those things you have to experience to understand ya know?

Well let's see, this is about what everything cost me. These aren't exact prices that's for sure, I don't remember half of them (and don't really care to lol).

Engine:
Compete D16Z6 - $50
Vitara pistons (rings, clips, wrist pins included) - $150
Eagle Rods - $300
Rod and Main bearings - $200
Miscellaneous engine stuff - $100 (gaskets, pumps, etc)
Zex Cam - $200
Zex Valve Springs - $150
ARP Head Studs - $90

~$1200

Tranny:
OBX LSD - $350
Gears - $90
Bearings - $100

~$550

Turbo Kit
Turbo - $550
Ramhorn Mani - $400
Downpipe/Dumptube Material - $100
ICpiping - $150
Intercooler - $200
BOV - $150
Wastegate - $250
Boost Controller - $330
Exhaust - $500
GM 3bar MAP Sensor - $70

~2700

Fuel/Tuning
Precision 780cc injectors - $280
Walbro 255lhp - $100
P28 chipped with harness - $270ish

~650

Oh good lord, around $5000, there's more than what I have there but that's the basics.

lol thats almost twice as much as my car is worth

lol wow Sov.....what do you do for a job??

ORIGINAL: SovXietday
Engine:
Compete D16Z6 - $50


That is BS!!!! :D Nice find

ORIGINAL: FlipHKD720

lol wow Sov.....what do you do for a job??


I think he works at Best buy.. But i may be wrong. ha.

Man thats alot of money. But you know youll the the result.

ORIGINAL: SovXietday

ORIGINAL: Remmy


Good point. I didnt think of that. FTR, ive never claimed to be the master mech around here.

Touche :D



No worries, it's one of those things you have to experience to understand ya know?

Well let's see, this is about what everything cost me. These aren't exact prices that's for sure, I don't remember half of them (and don't really care to lol).

Engine:
Compete D16Z6 - $50
Vitara pistons (rings, clips, wrist pins included) - $150
Eagle Rods - $300
Rod and Main bearings - $200
Miscellaneous engine stuff - $100 (gaskets, pumps, etc)
Zex Cam - $200
Zex Valve Springs - $150
ARP Head Studs - $90

~$1200

Tranny:
OBX LSD - $350
Gears - $90
Bearings - $100

~$550

Turbo Kit
Turbo - $550
Ramhorn Mani - $400
Downpipe/Dumptube Material - $100
ICpiping - $150
Intercooler - $200
BOV - $150
Wastegate - $250
Boost Controller - $330
Exhaust - $500
GM 3bar MAP Sensor - $70

~2700

Fuel/Tuning
Precision 780cc injectors - $280
Walbro 255lhp - $100
P28 chipped with harness - $270ish

~650

Oh good lord, around $5000, there's more than what I have there but that's the basics.




What was the power you were expecting from this? Whatever it is im a little concerned. I dont see any motor cooling in that list. At the least grab a big ass radiator from fluidyne or something.

ORIGINAL: Remmy

ORIGINAL: SovXietday

ORIGINAL: Remmy


Good point. I didnt think of that. FTR, ive never claimed to be the master mech around here.

Touche :D



No worries, it's one of those things you have to experience to understand ya know?

Well let's see, this is about what everything cost me. These aren't exact prices that's for sure, I don't remember half of them (and don't really care to lol).

Engine:
Compete D16Z6 - $50
Vitara pistons (rings, clips, wrist pins included) - $150
Eagle Rods - $300
Rod and Main bearings - $200
Miscellaneous engine stuff - $100 (gaskets, pumps, etc)
Zex Cam - $200
Zex Valve Springs - $150
ARP Head Studs - $90

~$1200

Tranny:
OBX LSD - $350
Gears - $90
Bearings - $100

~$550

Turbo Kit
Turbo - $550
Ramhorn Mani - $400
Downpipe/Dumptube Material - $100
ICpiping - $150
Intercooler - $200
BOV - $150
Wastegate - $250
Boost Controller - $330
Exhaust - $500
GM 3bar MAP Sensor - $70

~2700

Fuel/Tuning
Precision 780cc injectors - $280
Walbro 255lhp - $100
P28 chipped with harness - $270ish

~650

Oh good lord, around $5000, there's more than what I have there but that's the basics.




What was the power you were expecting from this? Whatever it is im a little concerned. I dont see any motor cooling in that list. At the least grab a big ass radiator from fluidyne or something.



300+ whp on Pump gas.
400+ on Racing gas.

Says on the front page.

Yea, you are going to need some cooling. Maybe a water/meth or oil cooler or a double wide radiator. I would even look into a bigger oil pan to handle more oil.

ORIGINAL: FlipHKD720

lol wow Sov.....what do you do for a job??


I work at Circuit City, selling TVs. ~30hours a week at $10.50 an hour. Needless to say this has been a very long time coming, I'm 18 and just graduated highschool so I took a year off and worked, needless to say I've been working towards this for a long time, paycheck by paycheck. Going back to school this year looking for an engineering degree or two.:)

As far as cooling goes, I'm going to see how the stock cooling does. So far it's doing just fine and I don't see why it will do any worse when the car is making more power. Reason's being.

1) I don't really get on the car a lot when it's hot out, and I don't get on the car during regular commuting. The turbo is so big I rarely even being to spool it on the Dseries, so the engine basically acts as stock when I'm just driving around.
2) When I DO get on it, it's for a short amount of time. No 5th gear pulls ever occur on this car.
3) Some drag Honda's don't even have a radiator, there's a 9sec Dseries who runs with a cracked block!
4) I constantly check the cooling system to make sure it is working properly.

I am prepared to get a Fluidyne and slimfan if the car proves to need more cooling, but we'll see. PA doesn't really get all that hot lol.

Bigger oil pan is a waste, 4 quarts with baffling is more than enough to supply the engine correctly, I just need to make sure that it always has enough oil.

Once again, Sov suprises us, Just when you think you fould something he forgot about, he thuoght about it. hah. Keep us posted Sov!

ORIGINAL: SovXietday

3) Some drag Honda's don't even have a radiator, there's a 9sec Dseries who runs with a cracked block!


If you run methanol or ethanol, it burns cool enough that a radiator may not be necessary doing 1/4 mile passes only. Some dragsters run this way.

A new radiator shouldn't be necessary for your uses. The only time an upgradedradiator should become necessary is with extend high rpm use, such as when road racing, or maybe running a very aggressive tune in a drag car that gets rebuilt every season.

I would recommend an oil cooler for any turbo build,but that's just a personal preference.

With those aftermarket aluminun rads, I never seem to see a fan on them. Whats the deal?

Ok, so I put the head on the block today. It was funny, my dad and I were bolting the head on with the engine sitting on the floor, and as soon as we got done I stood up, went to grab the valve cover that was sitting on the bench... and found the headgasket sitting in the valve cover.

D'OH!!

Oh well, it's all done now haha.

Tomorrow the Y8 comes out, all day Friday is going to be dedicated to putting the Z6 in and redoing the trans (again). Then Saturday will hopefully be putting the turbo pieces on, welding up a new DP and such, and of course getting the car good and tuned. :)

Long couple days ahead, but I'm excited.

Noobz.

sweet, we demand pics lol, and what do you mean by doing the trans again, did you burn it out already and i missed it?

hes going back to a stock 2nd gear and changin the 3rd gear i im pretty sure.

+1 on pics:D

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sweet, we demand pics lol, and what do you mean by doing the trans again, did you burn it out already and i missed it?


Found out at the track that the 1-2 shift was just too long, the car bogged so bad that it ran out of wind and my times suffered bigtime.

So, I forked the money for a ZC trans, and am taking the 3rd gear out of it (1.346, 1.25 stock) and putting it in my trans along with putting the stock 2nd gear back in. I realized I was being stupid, longer gearing no matter what I do makes the car slower... so why the hell would I lengthen second when I can just shorten 3rd? Duh. That's a win, win!

Forgot to mention I will of course have daily pictures of the progress and hopefully the finish. :)

Swet. You said you'd have the car running by april or something. but thats just an example of a project. You have had nothing really bad go wrong and its been pushed foreward.

This stuff just takes time, it's hard to guess how long it's going to take and there is never a rush on these kinds of things. It's time to finish it now though, engine has good compression and all is looking up still so I can't wait.

Yeah, ill be happy to see some vids too, when your done taking unsuspecting victims.

Get some pictures of pulling the y8

engine swap and turbo kit on in two days along with a tune, you're gonna be busy man, keep us updated and cant wait to see these numbers :)

Man this is exciting! Get some vids up as soon as you can once its rolling!

Yeah I'd like to get some video footage of it's first startup, but we'll see what happens.

Pictures of tonight.

First and foremost, the 1.6L Beast.

http://users.rcn.com/dwilz/build13.jpg

http://users.rcn.com/dwilz/build14.jpg

That's the built Z6, probably wouldn't know it looking at the outside of it but this isn't a beauty contest. ;)

http://users.rcn.com/dwilz/swap1.jpg

One last shot before the tear down. The cleanliness has slightly deteriorated, but that's what happens when everything gets wet.

http://users.rcn.com/dwilz/swap2.jpg

Downpipe, IC piping, and other small things off. Turbo was hot as balls because I took a kid for a last ride right before starting the teardown. [8D]

http://users.rcn.com/dwilz/swap3.jpg

57trim and the tial wastegate in all of it's lovely glory.

http://users.rcn.com/dwilz/swap4.jpg

The secret to all of my success... haha. :) I <3 having access to a lift.

http://users.rcn.com/dwilz/swap5.jpg

Hey, I think we dropped something.

http://users.rcn.com/dwilz/swap6.jpg

WE GOTZ NO ENGINEZ YOU HEAR!!

http://users.rcn.com/dwilz/swap7.jpg

Oh wait, there it is. [8D]

Y8 successfully uninstalled, Z6 goes in tomorrow, more pics of course. :)

you killed it! dirty as hell.

ORIGINAL: riceburner700

you killed it! dirty as hell.


DD + living on a dirt road + heat/water/mud = dirty as hell... but still fast so IDC. [8D]

im just messing with ya man lol

wow, cant wait til tmrw night, both you and Tyler are gonna have some nice updates on your rides :)cant wait

Busy day today, very happy with how far we got.

Started out with tearing apart the transmission. We took out the 1.762 2nd gear and replaced it with the stock 1.909, we also took out the stock 1.25 3rd gear and replaced it with a JDM ZC 1.346. My 1.033 4th stayed, this gearing is nearly identical to a stock GSR, the only large difference is the longer 4.25 final drive vs a GSRs 4.40 final drive.

Anywho...

http://users.rcn.com/dwilz/swap8.jpg

Trans is apart, counter shaft is up on end, mainshaft is laying down. If you look at the bottom of the countershaft, you'll see a larger gear, followed by a straight cut gear and a synchro sleeve. When this picture was taken, that was UPSIDE DOWN, the straight cut gear (reverse) is supposed to be on top of the actually sleeve... that cost us over an hour of time to find and fix lol.

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This is the rest of my collection of gears and tranny parts, NOT including what's in the above picture. Lol, too much to keep track of, let me tell you.

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Trans pretty much assembled, and my ZC case laying on the side. We scavenged a few parts from it that I needed for this time (oil guide plate and the two countershaft gears).

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Finally done.

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Lunch, breakfast, and dinner wrapped into scrappy meal, lol. Eating comes later.

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Z6 on the left, Y8 on the right.

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Clutch specialties Stage 2 on the left, thing is SHOT! It scarred the pressure plate up a bit and the rivits on the other side were actually starting to show wear, lol! Brand new Action 2MD on the right, mmmm.

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Z6 sportin the red.

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It's FINALLY in, yet there is so much work to be done.

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Intake installed, wiring harness plugged in, Dizzy repinned and plugged in (hopefully correctly...), and pretty much everything on the physical engine.

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Mani, turbo, and wastegate installed. I actually had to shave about 2mm off the exhaust housing on the turbo in order to get some clearance from the top of the wastegate, it was a really tight fit but it's a pretty big turbo too lol.

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Boxes and parts everywhere with the car getting fairly close to being done. This is what projects look like, cluttered, scavenged, tiring, but still a ton of fun and I'm learning a lot from all of this.

Tomorrow comes the real fun. Fabbing and welding the dumptube and downpipe, welding the bung in the oil pan and running all of the oil lines. We have to hook up the GM 3bar MAP sensor and run some longer vacuum lines to the wastegate. Then I get to tune, unfortunately it's look like we're going to be getting a lot of rain tomorrow so full boost pulls probably won't be happening till later this week unless I can somehow get lucky.

More pics tomorrow, and hopefully of the finished car.

But now I'm tired and going to bed, lol.

Did the first/second gap prove to be too much? Or did the gears just not meshquite right?

The motor looks awesome inyour carwiththe EL mani hooked up.

What's up with those Action clutches? I'm seeing a lot of them around (esp on turbod16 it seems), and have never heard of them.

How is the OBX LSD working out?

(Lots of questions, sorry. [8D])

Sweet build up man, that thing is going to FLY!!!:D

everything is coming together sweet Sov! That ram horn manifold is one of the nicest i think i ever seen. It really makes your setup look badass. good luck with the rest of the build and don't forget to get tons of vids for us!!

damn. Thats awesome Sov. I think youll have the fastest civ on this forum once your done.

ORIGINAL: Remmy

damn. Thats awesome Sov. I think youll have the fastest civ on this forum once your done.


Faster then Dustins when he is done?

Unbelievable Sov, I love this thread. Great Job.

What are you gonna do with the old y8?

Car is FINISHED!!! Pictures of today.

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First deal of the day, building the downpipe. We had the old downpipe and exhaust, but it was pretty rusty so we did what we could to grind it clean.

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We weren't planning on using this oil pan, one of the guys at my dad's shop was supposed to give me a good one. The one he handed me had a huge dent in the bottom of it, I laughed at him and told him to take it back, that's not going on my car. So, we had to deal with this one, we welded the existing nipple shut, and welded in a new 10AN female fitting. It's welded on the inside, we used a flange sealant on the outside just for second measure. Oil leaks are the worst.

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My pop welding up the downpipe. ****ty welder + rusty metal + poor grounding = chicken **** welds, lol. Whatever, they held great.

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A pic of the exhaust, don't think I've ever taken pictures of it.

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Like I said, chicken **** welds, but they hold great. This is the finished downpipe. Oil return line is also on and ready.

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Top view.

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Dumptube is welded up!

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Pretty much finished here! At this point the car was throwing a solid cel, we checked and double checked all of the wiring, 2 hours and we couldn't figure it out. The car wasn't throwing codes, it was just a straight solid cel. We finally figured it out, the tranny ground wasn't grounding correctly which threw the whole car voltage off. After that, it was just a matter of pulling a couple codes and quick fixing small wiring issues (forgot to plug in a sensor and switched two wires on the GM 3bar).

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Tuning the car after we figured out all the cels. The Ostrich Realtime Emmulator is amazing, makes tuning so much easier. Took me 5 minutes to get the car to purr with the 780cc injectors and the Zex 59300 cam. 800rpm slightly loping idle FTW!

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This is that time of the day when you just need something small to wrap up the little stuff... and you realize it made it's way to the bottom of the trash can, lol.

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Over 5 months of building, planning, and researching, I absolutely couldn't be happier with how it turned out.

My pop got in the drivers seat and I got behind the laptop, slowly we started to tune partial throttle out, with a lot of engine braking to draw the small metal shavings that new rings pull out of the cylinders. After some time, we hopped onto the highway and gave it some wastegate spring (8psi) pulls.

HOLY ****! I don't really know how to describe it, the engine has a unique deep throaty sound, the 3" full downpipe is loud as hell, the ACT clutch is solid as a rock, the turbo spools a full 400rpms sooner, the tranny is damn near perfect, and the car rips all the way to 8200RPMs. The car has to be making something around 230-240whp with just 8psi, and when the wastegate opens up you're pressed nicely in your seat. I cannot wait for 18psi.

I'm off tomorrow so I think I'll probably get some video of it, it's absolutely sick though, all that time and money well spent. :)

ORIGINAL: Kedawei

Did the first/second gap prove to be too much? Or did the gears just not meshquite right?

The motor looks awesome inyour carwiththe EL mani hooked up.

What's up with those Action clutches? I'm seeing a lot of them around (esp on turbod16 it seems), and have never heard of them.

How is the OBX LSD working out?


1st to 1.762 2nd was nasty bad, I was landing somewhere in the range of 3900 when I shifted, which would cause the car to MEGA bog, and not to mention it just sucked for daily driving. Had the rev the car pretty high in 1st in order to get a decent shift into 2nd. The new gearing however, wow, it's great. The shorter 3rd and stock 2nd really completes the transmission, just makes the car feel so much more sporty.

I love the EL mani, it turned a nice gold color now that I've heated it up a few times. :)

If you're looking for a clutch, I'm definitely going to suggest the Action line. They've been making clutches for longer than CM, ACT, etc, and they're damn good at it. The Action 2MD has a great feel to it, it's good and solid yet it isn't like an on off switch. It grabs hard but doesn't grab harsh, and best of all, the damn thing doesn't slip.

OBX LSD works great, no noises, both wheels spin, has been in for going on 2000miles now (I drive 300 at least a week). I'd suggest it for sure.

The Y8 is going to get wrapped up and put in our shed, just in case the Z6 doesn't fair well taking on all the boost I have planned for it.

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waiting for a vid

ORIGINAL: SovXietday
1st to 1.762 2nd was nasty bad, I was landing somewhere in the range of 3900 when I shifted, which would cause the car to MEGA bog, and not to mention it just sucked for daily driving. Had the rev the car pretty high in 1st in order to get a decent shift into 2nd. The new gearing however, wow, it's great. The shorter 3rd and stock 2nd really completes the transmission, just makes the car feel so much more sporty.

If you're looking for a clutch, I'm definitely going to suggest the Action line. They've been making clutches for longer than CM, ACT, etc, and they're damn good at it. The Action 2MD has a great feel to it, it's good and solid yet it isn't like an on off switch. It grabs hard but doesn't grab harsh, and best of all, the damn thing doesn't slip.


Good to know about the gears. Was a nice experiment, for us ha.

Is this the kind of clutch that leaves your leg sore at the end of the day? Let us know howit holds at325-350 or whatever you end up with.

would it be possable to get exactly what gearing you used for the whole transmission, and from what car/transmission and/or website?

hes using a stock y8 trannsmission with a sohc zc trannys 3rd gear.^^

I wish that HeyMikey kid would come in here and read this. He stated that, "D series are a waste of time."

Amazing by the way.

ORIGINAL: riceburner700

hes using a stock y8 trannsmission with a sohc zc trannys 3rd gear.^^


ZC 4th as well (that or a HF/STD 3rd substituted for 4th). Gearing as follows:

3.25
1.909
1.346
1.033
not sureon fifth, probably .702, .750 or .771
4.25 FD

Damn thats a nice car bro

Looks great! There's nothing like a job coming together just how you planned it! Nice build and nice car!

Page 14 is amazing :Dthis is one of the best projects i've ever seen, for real. The ramhorn looks so sick, well i guess the whole turbo setup, along with the valve cover and oil lines just look amazing. And those are just looks, not to mention the internals and how much pwoer that things gonna be pushin. Is 18 PSI what your gonna be runnin when all is said and done? Cant wait for vids [8D]The paragraph that started with HOLY SH*T! was awesome btw ;)kinda summed everything up and i'm glad eveyrthing came together so good

Holy crap. i was expecting not to see much in this thread when i got back home, But your really got this thing done! Get us vids and stuff! When you dynoing itt?! I ove everything man. Im glad it worked out.

ORIGINAL: Kedawei

ORIGINAL: SovXietday
1st to 1.762 2nd was nasty bad, I was landing somewhere in the range of 3900 when I shifted, which would cause the car to MEGA bog, and not to mention it just sucked for daily driving. Had the rev the car pretty high in 1st in order to get a decent shift into 2nd. The new gearing however, wow, it's great. The shorter 3rd and stock 2nd really completes the transmission, just makes the car feel so much more sporty.

If you're looking for a clutch, I'm definitely going to suggest the Action line. They've been making clutches for longer than CM, ACT, etc, and they're damn good at it. The Action 2MD has a great feel to it, it's good and solid yet it isn't like an on off switch. It grabs hard but doesn't grab harsh, and best of all, the damn thing doesn't slip.


Good to know about the gears. Was a nice experiment, for us ha.

Is this the kind of clutch that leaves your leg sore at the end of the day? Let us know howit holds at325-350 or whatever you end up with.


Yeah the gearing worked out pretty good this time around, but if there's one thing I learned it's that sometimes you have to try a few things to get it all right. Don't get me wrong, the old gearing would be AWESOME for someone who road races, 2-3-4 were really tight and I was almost always in the power band and the car was outright nasty from a roll... but I'm a dragracer, I need that 1-2 shift like I need sex. [8D]

I have driven the clutch to work a few times now, through heavy traffic and all that good stuff. It's very easy to drive, the engagement is a lot less harsh than I expected, and the pedal has a good feel to it, it's stiff but no where near as bad as I thought it was going to be. Also, the unsprung hub is nice too, again the engagement isn't harsh it's very solid and not hard at all to drive. I actually like it more than my other clutch, it has actually made traffic a bit easier. All in all, it's a LOT softer than what I was expecting, and I really like it. I've seen these clutches hold 500whp so I'm not tooworried about it holding. ;)

I'm probably going to run anywhere from 15-18psidaily driven on pump gas(93 octane).Then, whenever I get the chance and get a hold of some C10 (110octane)I plan to push somewhere around 25-30psi which should easily make a little over 400whp. But, one step at a time, I'm still getting the feel for the engine but hopefully should be pushing15-18psi bythe end of thisweek. Just need the weather to cooperate.

Kadewei pretty much hit the gearing on thehead.

3.25 1st gear (no otheroption, allDseries Honda trans' use thisas 1st gear)
1.909 2nd gear (the ZC has a 1.944 2nd gear,but1st and 2nd gear are both part of the Honda mainshaft, and I wasn't sure about putting a cable mainshaft in a hydro trans so I just stuckwith the stock EX/Si hydro second for that).
1.346 ZC 3rd gear (this is a HARD gear to find, they're getting rare. You'll probably have to buy an entire JDM ZC transmission to find it. Hmotorsonline.com has them for $150 which is about the going rate. I got mine for $200 shipped off ebay)
1.033CRXHF 3rd gear as 4th (If you buy the ZC trans, you can alsouse the 4th gear from that as it's the same.You will need to slightly modify the countershaft 4th gear, I sent mine toTransbone on dseries.org and he did everythingfor me for like $30 shipped back and forth.)
.771 CRX Si 5th (5th doesn't really matter, the .771 is a nice cruising gear, .702 is a stock EX but it's up to you. The ZC trans has a .871 or something to that extent if you want to use that gear.)
4.25 final drive, stock EX/Si.

Last night I brought the carback into my dads shop to change the oil, check for leaks, and open up the front bumper to expose the bling and let some more air in. Well, we popped the hood and found oil EVERYWHERE. Ah great... so after about 30 minutes of searching we found out that the brand new crankseal had been damaged and it was leaking oil like crazy. Thankfully it's a quick replacement (pull the old one out,put the new one in) and we were off again. No biggy there but I'm still checking for leaks to make sure that was it.

I should be able to get some video and pictures of everything tonight. Looks to be a nice day I may even decide to play with the boost controller a little bit but I'm a bit hesitant until I know that I fixed that leak. Meh, we'll see, should be hitting the track Thursday and hopefully getting on the dyno Friday so something numbers wise should be here soon. :D

Thanks for the compliments guys, I'm still surprised that this build came together exactly as I thought it would, lol.

with those gear's being changed...did that effect your speedometer? or does VSS still read it accurately.. im mainly talking about the 5th gear, but just to know in general would be nice.

This is probably the best thread on HCF. Thank you for all the useful information Sov, much better than just saying what you have and leaving it at that. It's good to show the theory and angle behind doing things like this.

Keep up the fantastic work, I know you will

ORIGINAL: the_turtle

with those gear's being changed...did that effect your speedometer? or does VSS still read it accurately.. im mainly talking about the 5th gear, but just to know in general would be nice.


The VSS gear is on the differential so it basically reads axle RPM and converts accordingly. ;)

Thanks Forty, I was searching your HT threads all day long on Saturday trying to wire that stupid dizzy lol. Stupid OBD2...

ORIGINAL: SovXietday

ORIGINAL: the_turtle

with those gear's being changed...did that effect your speedometer? or does VSS still read it accurately.. im mainly talking about the 5th gear, but just to know in general would be nice.


The VSS gear is on the differential so it basically reads axle RPM and converts accordingly. ;)

Thanks Forty, I was searching your HT threads all day long on Saturday trying to wire that stupid dizzy lol. Stupid OBD2...




HAHA, no ****... Did you get it figured out? If not, I can tell you exactly how to do it :D

Sov i am jealous of you, i have been working on my project since Thanksgiving and i havent even got my car running right. good job on the whole build Sov, one of the best threads here on HCF for ppl with d series.

ORIGINAL: SovXietday

Kadewei pretty much hit the gearing on thehead.

3.25 1st gear (no otheroption, allDseries Honda trans' use thisas 1st gear)
1.909 2nd gear (the ZC has a 1.944 2nd gear,but1st and 2nd gear are both part of the Honda mainshaft, and I wasn't sure about putting a cable mainshaft in a hydro trans so I just stuckwith the stock EX/Si hydro second for that).
1.346 ZC 3rd gear (this is a HARD gear to find, they're getting rare. You'll probably have to buy an entire JDM ZC transmission to find it. Hmotorsonline.com has them for $150 which is about the going rate. I got mine for $200 shipped off ebay)
1.033CRXHF 3rd gear as 4th (If you buy the ZC trans, you can alsouse the 4th gear from that as it's the same.You will need to slightly modify the countershaft 4th gear, I sent mine toTransbone on dseries.org and he did everythingfor me for like $30 shipped back and forth.)
.771 CRX Si 5th (5th doesn't really matter, the .771 is a nice cruising gear, .702 is a stock EX but it's up to you. The ZC trans has a .871 or something to that extent if you want to use that gear.)
4.25 final drive, stock EX/Si.


I figured you used the ZC 4th, since you bought the whole ZC trans. Trying to find a HF/STD 3rd can be a pain, and finding a ZC 3rd by itself is even more of a pain.

Cable mainshafts don't fit in hydro cases anyway, so you didn't miss out on anything. Bisimoto is the only person I know of to make it fit with the use of shims. I think the 3.181-1.944 nets like a 200 rpm less drop. Not a huge diff.

ZC 5th is .878 :DI figured you wouldn't have used it. I wouldn't either. Basically what you have is the trans I want to build, except in a Z6 case so2nd will be 1.9. I also might try mfactory's 4.928 FD, my Y7s 4.058 FD, or a 3.888 depending on what all I do to which motor. :D

I found an HF 3rd the first time I built the transmission, so now I have two 1.033 4ths. One in my tranny and the ZC one. ;)

ZC 5th gear is a bit on the short side for me. I've heard the 4.92 is a fun final drive, but it really depends what kind of power you're looking to put down and what you want the car to be mainly.

I have missed this thread for a wile now. But I just went through most of it. I said it before, and ill say it again...your carfu*king rocks! That build sounds so sweet, im so jealous that you know how to do all that yourself. Keep up the good work, and cant wate to see this vid.

ORIGINAL: SovXietday

ZC 5th gear is a bit on the short side for me. I've heard the 4.92 is a fun final drive, but it really depends what kind of power you're looking to put down and what you want the car to be mainly.



Werd.

nice, glad to see this finally finished. Get the vids up man. So what, is your fifth gear like a "go fast" gear, or like a "cruise down the highway not eating gas gear"? lol, sorry i dont know anything about trannies, but when i get to that part of my build im going to need a gear to not eat gas in fifth.

very nice siv. congrats on everything. i cant wait to get my swap and start to build it. im still in high school though so its cool.

ORIGINAL: Forty04

ORIGINAL: SovXietday

ORIGINAL: the_turtle

with those gear's being changed...did that effect your speedometer? or does VSS still read it accurately.. im mainly talking about the 5th gear, but just to know in general would be nice.


The VSS gear is on the differential so it basically reads axle RPM and converts accordingly. ;)

Thanks Forty, I was searching your HT threads all day long on Saturday trying to wire that stupid dizzy lol. Stupid OBD2...




HAHA, no ****... Did you get it figured out? If not, I can tell you exactly how to do it :D


Nope I got it first try, how I dunno but I got it lol.

Sorry guys, been pretty busy with work and all that, so vids are a bit late. Should be going to the track tomorrow for some 8psi runs, so I'll at least have something. :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-o-EmXmmhw

Viddeeoooo. Still on 8psi, if you listen closely to the last clip, you can hear the car spin most of 2nd from a roll. ;)

Sweet! Car sounds awesome too. I cant wait to see it on higher boost. Great build man.

Once again, nice work sov. She definitely sounds like a boosted d series from the front :D

Ah I missed out of this thread for a while now but good job on an awesome build. I have the worst case of turbo envy now.

Nice damn vid Sov! The car sounds sick/ I really can't wait to see some numbers though. You outa keep your camera in your car, so you can get us some kill vids

Good job dude. You pulled it off nicely!

Thanks guys, just need to find time to get on the dyno and/or up the boost.

Have off this Friday, gonna hit up the track whether I have time to up the boost or not.

def a sick ride u have there love it all ...performan