D17a1 swap--->d17a2

Printable Version

Honda Civic Forums >> Your Ride >> Engine & Internal >> Swap Meet >> EP Swaps >> D17a1 swap--->d17a2

Page: [1] 2 3   next >   >>

Login Message << Older Topic   Newer Topic >>

D17a1 swap--->d17a2 - 1/12/2007 1:18:25 PM    DarkMx6   Posts: 30 Joined: 12/22/2006 Status: offline Hello guys I've been researching swaps and seeing what I can do to my car to get a little more hp. k20 and k24 are awesome, if you got a few thousand. But for people like me I need to go the small way. Now questions for those people who know: Do I need a ecu, wiring harness and/or tranny for this swap?(D17a1 swap--->d17a2) From what I understand the d17a2 ecu tells the engine to open the valves more at high rpms giveing you that extra boost that you can feel. but the d17a1 does not have that because its a non vtec honda engine. Am I right?  Post #: 1

RE: D17a1 swap--->d17a2 - 1/12/2007 7:53:19 PM    TheMoogly Posts: 2941 Joined: 4/7/2006 Status: offline Wait... so you're wanting to put in an ex engine in an lx? Why the heck didnt you just buy the ex in the first place?  _____________________________ 精神分裂病。。。もし分かればあなた天才だよ！! (in reply to DarkMx6) Post #: 2

RE: D17a1 swap--->d17a2 - 1/12/2007 7:54:39 PM    TheMoogly Posts: 2941 Joined: 4/7/2006 Status: offline  Moreover... why would you want to swap out a crappy engine with an equally crappy engine? for what? 5 horsepower or something? Even putting a turbo on the non vtec will be so expensive and such a custom setup that it be so much more worth it to do the engine swap and just go n/a < Message edited by TheMoogly -- 1/12/2007 7:56:20 PM > _____________________________ 精神分裂病。。。もし分かればあなた天才だよ！! (in reply to TheMoogly) Post #: 3

RE: D17a1 swap--->d17a2 - 1/13/2007 7:14:13 PM    michalo187   Posts: 4 Joined: 12/29/2006 Status: offline Just do the vtec head swap.  Also Swap and turbo on these cars cost about the same.  My goal is 350whp on the d17.  (in reply to TheMoogly) Post #: 4

RE: D17a1 swap--->d17a2 - 1/15/2007 9:37:45 PM    TheMoogly Posts: 2941 Joined: 4/7/2006 Status: offline Michalo you do know how much a k20 swap AND a turbo is going to run you, right?   Hey Dark, if you simply swap a k series engine you're looking at 6-8k... if you are thinking of boosting you're looking at another 2500 bucks. I tell you what, though... you swap in the k20a and you'll already be faster than the rsx-s you just took it out of (you're lighter, even the sedan)... that is 220hp right there. With a garret turbo on there you could be WELL into the 300s for wheel horsepower but you really have to realize that it will cost as much as your car is worth right now. It isnt just an engine you simply switch out, there is a ton of stuff you need to upgrade, and then parts that go with that upgrade, and then more parts... gets really pricey and NO ONE ever does it. I have only seen ONE sedan with a k20 and that is only because it was at the same shop I was at when I went in to buy some crap. It was an 04 black sedan and originally an lx... still has the emblem on it too which is funny. _____________________________ 精神分裂病。。。もし分かればあなた天才だよ！! (in reply to michalo187) Post #: 5

RE: D17a1 swap--->d17a2 - 1/17/2007 3:12:54 PM    DarkMx6   Posts: 30 Joined: 12/22/2006 Status: offline I understand what you guys are saying and I understand totaly. See this is the deal I had a cold air intake and me being dumb one day it was raining realy hard. and no I didnt drive it into a puddle or try to cross some deep water. As i was saying It was raining really hard I could barely see the lights of the other cars in front of me.so i was going like 15 may be 20 mph next thing I knew the car just stalled , tryed to stay on then died. I get out of the car and the water is everywhere. Its still my falt though I wasnt even thinking about the water going into the intake, I should have been. My bro had been telling me to watch out cuz he has one too.(only he is smarter than me). So the reason I'm doing the swap is because I Thought well if I going to change out the motor I might as well put something better, but for me everything has to be under $1,000 so there you go a broke guys motor swap. So still the question do I need the ecu? (in reply to TheMoogly) Post #: 6

RE: D17a1 swap--->d17a2 - 1/18/2007 7:07:26 PM    sully   Posts: 58 Joined: 7/21/2006 Status: offline well id jus rebuild the engine.... do a head swap and go from there < Message edited by sully -- 1/18/2007 7:11:11 PM > (in reply to DarkMx6) Post #: 7

RE: D17a1 swap--->d17a2 - 1/19/2007 1:02:03 PM    DarkMx6   Posts: 30 Joined: 12/22/2006 Status: offline Its faster and cheaper to do an engine swap $300 bucks + 60 for the ecu. Of course that doesn't include the labor. But when you're Mexican there's always a cousin that knows how to fix whatever your doing. The only thing I'm wondering is if the wiring harness is the same. If not I'm going to have to get that too. I'm going to try to do a step my step write up on this as soon as I start, with lots of pictures. Wish me luck! (in reply to sully) Post #: 8

RE: D17a1 swap--->d17a2 - 1/23/2007 10:38:43 PM    TheMoogly Posts: 2941 Joined: 4/7/2006 Status: offline HEY!!! Tell me about what happened when your engine bogged!?!? You are now the first person that has had problems with an intake on their 7th gen!! I am back to stock because I had soooo much problems with my short ram and I didnt want to take a chance messing up my simota cai.... So when I drove in a rut the engine area would shake and the car would begin to lose power... To stop it I would press in the clutch and step on the gas and let the clutch go again. If I kept the revs up high it wouldnt do anything, but under 45 it was horrible! No one with an EX ever has problems, but LX seems to do it! What year is your civ? I am an 04 LX sedan! _____________________________ 精神分裂病。。。もし分かればあなた天才だよ！! (in reply to DarkMx6) Post #: 9

RE: D17a1 swap--->d17a2 - 2/27/2007 4:25:17 PM    DarkMx6   Posts: 30 Joined: 12/22/2006 Status: offline Man I have to retype everything I just typed (my computer went stupid) Well anyways my car is a 2004 lx  sedan I put the cold air intake and had no problems, till the day that it took some water. When it did take in the water it just sputerd alittle and died. It didn't want to crank after that. It might be your mass air flow sensor, My  00 Sentra would die if I let go of the gas.  (in reply to TheMoogly) Post #: 10

Today's Posts
Most Active Topics
Make A Donation
Forum Rules & FAQ
RSS Feeds

Honda Civic Prices

Honda Civic
Civic Si Concept

Featured Sponsors
Select A Model Accord CR-V Civic Civic Hybrid Element Fit Odyssey Pilot Ridgeline S2000

Top 10 Posters
forty04 14235 remmy 11161 fiirkan 10502 mill$civic 8463 marty 8273 mxs 8006 fliphkd720 7711 nail i3unny 7705 sacicons 7675 addiction2ba 7326

New Vendors
AMSOIL - Performance Oil Technology
K&N Engineering, Inc.