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RE: Best way to improve off the line performance - 1/17/2007 1:38:24 PM   
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what part can i add to get more torque. duh...


that's an open ended question

there's simple bolt on modifications: intakes, headers, exhaust
that will yield small amounts of increases in horsepower and torque

and there's complex large scale modifications: turbo, supercharger, nitrous, engine rebuilds, engine swaps
that yield greater amounts of increases in horsepower and torque

every modification has a cost associated with it, and in terms of the 7th generations, ease of modification, and availability

due to the engine changes, there aren't many reliable modifications for the 7th gen engines (D17), as they don't take to modifications well short of a complete overhaul.

to seriously get the car off the line faster, you'd need to add forced induction or completely rebuild or swap the engine.  these modifications generally have large costs and lots of time involved.

as for "slicks", they're not DOT approved, and as such, not legal for road use.  what you can try to find is a summer high performance tire, which will offer better grip in the heat, but will most likely be awful in the winter

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RE: Best way to improve off the line performance - 1/17/2007 4:52:57 PM   
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are you saying that if you were to soup up a 5th or 6th gen youd be faster than my 7th gen if i were to soup it up? i dont understand why honda would pussy up the next genereation of hondas... i dont want to buy a new car i want to make the one i have ****in fast. what types of things can you do when rebuilding an engine?

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RE: Best way to improve off the line performance - 1/17/2007 5:16:23 PM   
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where can i buy a ****in k series engine im gettin frustrated cuz i cant find out where to buy it.

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RE: Best way to improve off the line performance - 1/17/2007 6:23:33 PM   
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Rofl. EBAY. I gave you the engine codes.

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RE: Best way to improve off the line performance - 1/18/2007 10:27:19 AM   
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ORIGINAL: johnb

are you saying that if you were to soup up a 5th or 6th gen youd be faster than my 7th gen if i were to soup it up? i dont understand why honda would pussy up the next genereation of hondas... i dont want to buy a new car i want to make the one i have ****in fast. what types of things can you do when rebuilding an engine?

- John B.


what I'm saying is there's a wider variety of parts available to soup up an earlier generation of Civics.  the aftermarket support for the D17 engines isn't very strong, as the engines had significantly reduced reliability when modified in comparison to the 5th or 6th generations.

Generally when rebuilding the engine, one would change the rods, pistons, cranks, bearings, head bolts, heads, gaskets, valves...

there's a lot of stuff that can be done, and not all of it might need to be done

you'll spend almost as much doing a K series swap into your car, as you would buying a newer civic (you could probably get a decent used Si for the cost of modifying your car between engine and fabrication to do the swap)

honestly, a civic is not meant to be an extraordinarily fast car, it's designed with commuting and efficiency in mind, they can be made to be fairly quick, but by no means are they able to be made into a super fast car

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RE: Best way to improve off the line performance - 1/18/2007 5:20:20 PM   
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http://www.sunrisejdmmotors.com/honda.php is a place you can find a k motor. or you can always try a junkyard, they might have something cheaper than that. the k motor would be a great investment whether you want to go n/a or force inducted.

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RE: Best way to improve off the line performance - 1/18/2007 11:33:42 PM   
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Rofl. EBAY. I gave you the engine codes.


dude. i went on ebay. no kseries engines. if you can find one post a link but i didn see any K series engines on ebay. i saw some B series but no K.

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RE: Best way to improve off the line performance - 1/18/2007 11:47:36 PM   
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I will elaborate for you John.

The main problem with D17s is they're improperly stroked for the engines design.


what type of performance vtec engine would you recommend for my civic. where can i get it how much does it cost etc.

- John B.


get a Bseries engine, like a b16 or b18 from an acura integra.

you can find LS b18s pretty cheap sometimes. or you could go the JDM engine swap route and spend some serious cash.

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RE: Best way to improve off the line performance - 1/18/2007 11:49:22 PM   
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read the reviews here.

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Driving takes 3 abilities: Accelerating+braking+turning. More power only helps acceleration. Lower weight helps all 3.
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RE: Best way to improve off the line performance - 1/18/2007 11:52:32 PM   
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get a Bseries engine, like a b16 or b18 from an acura integra.


and then buy a new car, because it won't fit in the '01.........

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