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RE: Best way to improve off the line performance - 1/19/2007 12:03:10 AM

drbyers

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get a Bseries engine, like a b16 or b18 from an acura integra.

and then buy a new car, because it won't fit in the '01.........

the stock D17 in the 7G is still the same configuration as the old D blocks, so swapping a B block into it's place isn't impossible since both spin in the same direction.

with money and custom mounts anything is possible and several b-series 7th gens are already riding around on the west coast...

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RE: Best way to improve off the line performance - 1/19/2007 12:17:48 AM

johnb

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how much am i lookin at total. engine mounts, b series engine, etc. everything i will need.

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RE: Best way to improve off the line performance - 1/19/2007 12:24:36 AM

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Lots of money. you'll need custom mounts for a b-series at the very least.

everybody says a Kseries swap would be easier (and more legal) but k-series engines are rediculously priced right now, so you're stuck between a rock and a hard place.

custom mounts or expensive engine.

to make it worse, turbocharging can also get pretty expensive after parts, labor and LOTS of tuning.

so you have to pick your poison. another thing is that Kseries engines spin in the wrong direction (i think).

you could do a d-series engine swap or build up your current d-series but D-series engines are hard to extract NA power from compared to other honda engines.

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RE: Best way to improve off the line performance - 1/19/2007 12:28:29 AM

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with money and custom mounts anything is possible

I won't argue with that, but it's probably not the best solution for this guy.

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RE: Best way to improve off the line performance - 1/22/2007 3:56:33 PM

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I won't argue with that, but it's probably not the best solution for this guy.

then what is. and if you were doing i/h/e which order would you recommend doing it in.

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RE: Best way to improve off the line performance - 1/22/2007 4:34:45 PM

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i/h/e is put into that order for a reason ;)

but really power wise... probably h/e/i as far as highest to lowest gains

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RE: Best way to improve off the line performance - 1/22/2007 4:54:26 PM

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are you saying that if you were to soup up a 5th or 6th gen youd be faster than my 7th gen if i were to soup it up? i dont understand why honda would pussy up the next genereation of hondas... i dont want to buy a new car i want to make the one i have ****in fast. what types of things can you do when rebuilding an engine?

- John B.

Its the first thing that popped up when I searched.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/RSX-K20-TYPE-S-complete-engine-conversion_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ33615QQihZ008QQitemZ180077829807QQrdZ1

Btw, you are in over your head. The lack of knowledge you have wont do you anygood. And to get the car 'fast' is going to cost you almost as much as your car is worth.

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RE: Best way to improve off the line performance - 1/26/2007 12:31:53 AM

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thats why im on this forum bro. to learn.

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RE: Best way to improve off the line performance - 1/26/2007 12:58:09 AM

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with money and custom mounts anything is possible and several b-series 7th gens are already riding around on the west coast...

Tell that to the guys at honda-tech; they'd flame you down for a second. Only 2 7th gen civics IN THE WORLD have had a b-engine swapped in: both made by AEM engineers . So about your comment, no, there are NO b-series 7th gen riding around on the west coast...

the b engine would take much more than custom mounts. A LOT MORE. it's all covered at honda-tech, check it out

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The b16a requires... Custom Motor Mounts/tranny mounts, Custom axels, ALLL CUSTOM wiring ( A HUGEEEE TASK) Rewire EVERYTHING, speedo, ecu.IT also might require a custom header/downpipe.Another huge problem, is because its never been well documented, EVERYTHING you did would be trial and error, and im sure there would be a TON of errors along the way.

CHECK BELOW TO SEE HONDA TECH INFO ABOUT B SERIES SWAPS INTO 7TH GEN CIVIC
http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1861937
http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1813286
http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1805923
http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1793652
http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1784533

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RE: Best way to improve off the line performance - 1/26/2007 4:30:43 AM

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as far as DOHC or SOHC do you think you could explain to me the difference please, i know one is Single Overhead or Dual Overhead but what does it do exactly

I'm a little late for this thread. But as I've said before... The difference between DOHC and SOHC is that SOHC is like having one testicle.

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