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RE: My first block build - 7/27/2007 1:08:05 PM

red2000Si

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Updates! Pistons came in yesterday but I was too busy working on the geo to post any pics. We fixed the headgasket problem but the timing is off so its reving really high at idle. The timing belt on that stupid geo is nearly impossible to get on even with the tensioner completely loose so its a real pain in the butt to get the thing on and off. We think its probably just off a couple teeth which is making it idle terrible. Anyway back to the main project. Im going to wait a few days to see if my buddy can get his air compressor working so we can take the block completely apart so I can save myself $70 having the maching shop do it. If its not fixed by monday Im just going to have to bite the bullet and dish out the cash cause Im too impatient and I want all the machine work to be done before saturday. We will then spend the whole next weekend assembling the block and hopefully within the next 2 to 3 weeks if there are no major set backs we will have the thing in the car and ready for the very scary first start up. heres some pics of the beautiful jewels that came in the mail yesterday.

Im still trying to decide if Im going to use some type of block support. I havent heard anything good about block gaurds but I read a little about block staking on HMT and it looks like a pretty good idea. Anybody have any other ideas on something to give the sleeves a little support?

Remmy, I would love to send all my stuff up to your place. It looks like they did a really nice job on all your stuff but Im a poor 20 year old college kid with about $800 left to finish this build and that includes bearings, water pump, timing belt, probably a new radiator and any other miscellaneous parts I need to pick up so the stardard bore, hone and hot tank is about all Im going to be able to do as far as machine work.

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RE: My first block build - 7/27/2007 1:37:38 PM

Remmy

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Thats cool and all but your cars long term dependability will depend on hwo you do you build. Its up to you. I think to get the head redone is like $100

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RE: My first block build - 7/27/2007 2:58:53 PM

red2000Si

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I'll probably get the head resurfaced as well but I think the b16 head flows well enough to spend the extra money in other places. I know the more I had a preofessional engine builder do the better I would probably feel better about its reliability but I dont think I wouldnt have near the satisfaction I would having done it myself. After alot of research and talking to alot of people who have built honda blocks I really dont feel its necessary to do much more than what I have planned as far as machine work. We will be taking our time and making very sure we are doing everything correctly.

Remmy if you want, you can pm me some price info and stuff from that place. I would be interested to see what kind of stuff they can do and for what kind of prices.

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RE: My first block build - 7/27/2007 4:49:35 PM

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Nice build, looks like it's going to be a sick setup.

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RE: My first block build - 7/27/2007 5:16:43 PM

Remmy

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I didnt mean to get it to breath better but I meant to get it cleanded and polished professionally. Pretty much refurbish it.

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RE: My first block build - 7/27/2007 6:47:46 PM

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im sooo jealous...u have a Geo Metro

why are u wasting time/money on the SI???

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RE: My first block build - 7/27/2007 9:19:55 PM

red2000Si

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lol Yeah we plan on mounting a b18 ls motor over the rear axles making it rwd and putting the gas tank under the hood but thats probably pretty far into the future. Refurbishing the head doesnt sound like a bad idea. Theres probably quite a bit of exhuast build up and crap in the ports. I'll probably look into something like that. The place Im getting my machine work done at is pretty reputable so Im sure they can do some pretty good work on the head. Keep the suggestions coming, like the title of this thread says this is my first block build so Im still looking into different options for things.

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RE: My first block build - 8/6/2007 6:51:47 PM

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Ok its been a while and the project is going a little slower than I wanted but there have been a few changes of plan. It looks like I am going to go completely broke on the build, which I dont mind, but Im not going to have enough money to put the turbo setup together that I want. The block is at the machine shop right now getting bored honed and hot tanked. Im having them assemble the whole thing mostly cause I dont have the time to do it myself before school starts and I really need everything done in the next 3 weeks. Im having them put in a new water pump, oil pump, all new bearings and thrust washers and all new gaskets in the bottom end and I'll be putting a new timing belt on too when I put the motor back together. Its really going to be a brand spanking new block when its all done. Im going to do alot of cleaning to the head myself just to get alot of exhaust deposots and stuff out of the ports. The plan is to put a really ghetto turbo setup on it temporarily just so my car isnt really slow for the next 4-5 months. Im going to pick up a free volvo t3 from a friends volvo yard and make a really ghetto topmount manifold out of a stock exhaust manifold and make my own downpipe. Pretty much a $50 setup that will at least keep me boosting for the fall semester till I have enough money to afford what I really want.

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RE: My first block build - 8/10/2007 10:50:37 AM

red2000Si

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Well since I always hear about broken ringlands and never see any pictures of this I thought I would post up what actually happened to my motor. Piston #3 got beat pretty badly. The top of the piston was completely melted on the side and I when I took the rings off the ringlands just crumbled off.

Pretty sweet looking carnage pics:

Im going to pick the block up today completely fresh, rebuilt and brand new with every little thing replaced down the the last gasket! Cant wait!

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RE: My first block build - 8/13/2007 12:09:08 AM

red2000Si

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Well I finally have the block out of the machine shop and got a little bit of work done today. It seems that nobody in the state of florida has a water pump for a b16 and it was almost as hard to find a timing belt! I didnt have a lot of time but at least I got a little start on everything. Heres some pics of the progress made so far.

I also got the head resurfaced, hot tanked and cleaned. Im so excited about my shiny beautiful motor!

I ended up getting the headstuds in finger tight and putting the head on the block but nothing is torqued down yet. Im hoping to get time to work on it some more in the next day or two. Id like to get the rest of the motor assembled, bolt the tranny on and have it all ready to be dropped into the engine bay next weekend. I really cant wait to get this thing back on the road.

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