If you're new to my build, you will need to read the first version. It includes all of the engine and transmission build along with any upgrades to the turbo setup that I had before joining the forums.

It can be found here:
http://www.hondacivicforum.com/m_334488/tm.htm

Shortly after this build was finished my car was involved in an accident in which a driver of moronic value ran a stop sign at 40mph and plowed into the passenger side front corner of my coupe.

Car went from this:
http://users.rcn.com/dwilz/wood2.jpg

To this:
http://users.rcn.com/dwilz/crash1.jpg

At first I thought this was a bad thing... clearly it would seem I was correct. However upon further inspection I discovered that NONE of my aftermarket parts aside from some cold side charge piping was damaged. The car itself was a total loss, and I have recieved 5000 and the coupe back (which is now rendered a parts car). Being as nothing was damaged, I looked for a new car to start over with, and I found it.

I bought this 1996 CX Hatchback, 5 speed manual transmission, for $300 today.

http://users.rcn.com/dwilz/hatch1.jpg

http://users.rcn.com/dwilz/hatch2.jpg

http://users.rcn.com/dwilz/hatch3.jpg

Plans for the car are as followed, and this post will be updated as often and as frequently as I can, hopefully with pictures too.

Stage 1

The car is a CX, which means no power windows, locks, or mirrors. It is by all means, Honda's below 1965 standards Civic. Rolling down windows is a pain, as is having to open each lock seperately. I have an EX parts car, so we're going to do the full swap to make the car all power. I am also planning on dying the dash and door panels black (read, NOT PAINTING, dying). The car will also need to have the cluster swapped out for the EX one as the CX has no tach (the car has 60whp and a tranny that's geared to the moon, I don't think it CAN reach redline). What will probably need to be done is I'm going to literally have to pull out the entire dash and interior wiring harness along with the door harnesses and replace them with the EX harnesses... hopefully I can use the CX doors and install a window motor but I'm not sure yet until I get a good look at everything involved. But hey, that's what a build thread is for!

Stage 2

Remember that hefty check that the insurance company cut me? I sure do, and althought the coupe looked pretty good, the paint really sucked. It was scratched to hell, was dull, had dings and dents everywhere, what a mess. This one is getting the full makeover. Depending on what I can find when I finish this build, I would LIKE to do a 99-00 front end swap with yellow fogs and SIR headlights. The car needs a new front bumper and driver side fender, so I figure I can probably just replace it with 99-00 parts anyway. CF goodies will include OEM hood, Mugen style front lip, and spoon duckbill with the rear of the car being lastly accented by 99-00 tails. The entire car will be painted championship white (ITR white).

Stage 3

This will be when I swap the built D16Z6 into the hatch along with all of it's turbo components and pieces. I will need to mount the intercooler and cut the bumper before paint, during this time I will also be driving down to the local fab shop to have them redo my cold side piping since it was smashed in the accident. Depending upon what kind of money I have left I may also add an intake manifold, new throttle body, and 1000cc injectors into the mix. The car will then be tuned again by me and then trying again for the power goals that I set earlier.

Stay tuned, this is gonna be bad ass!

60 hp to 250whp ftw!

glad to hear you're painting EVERYTHING white and goign with the CF/white color scheme, i nkow its gonna look sick as hell. What about wheels though?

1000cc injectors??? **** Sov, can'tw ait for this thing to be done :D:D

Same wheels dude, the car will probably be tucking the Rota's by the end of this week. [8D]

lol this is ridiculous, i honestly get excited inside even thinking about this thread, and its not even my car!!! wtf?! What size injectors u got now? Are 1000cc realy necesarry, like i know you've got 12PSI on a badass boost leak, but what are your final expected numbers, and finaly PSI you are planning to be running? I've never seen anybody run over 450cc injectors, so that seems extreme to me.

$300...holy crap. Auction?

dealrship hook uuuuuuuuuuuup! ^ lucky SOB;)

ORIGINAL: FlipHKD720

lol this is ridiculous, i honestly get excited inside even thinking about this thread, and its not even my car!!! wtf?! What size injectors u got now? Are 1000cc realy necesarry, like i know you've got 12PSI on a badass boost leak, but what are your final expected numbers, and finaly PSI you are planning to be running? I've never seen anybody run over 450cc injectors, so that seems extreme to me.


I was tuning 16psi on the street and having around 68% duty cycle, and the car was still a bit lean. I have 780ccs on the car now. The rule of thumb is to be at no more than 75-80% duty cycle in order to prolong the life of the injectors, so I really do need to go bigger although I'm not looking forward to trying to idle out 1000cc lol. Remember I'm shooting for 400whp+ which is going to take about 25-30psi, the 780cc are going to be completely maxed. I would also like to run E85 on this car when it comes out so I need more injector for that anyway.

Lost, no the car was traded in at the dealer that my dad works at for $100. I asked about it just to see what kinda price they would give me, they decided to give me it for $300. Keys please? [8D]

Championship White FTW! I like that color. I cannot wait to see the final product.

400 at the wheels, is that the highest here on HCF? I see you over on TurboD16 quite a bit, i know theres some heavy setups over here, but i dont think i can remember anyoneh ere on HCF with 400+ is there?

you wouldn't be interested in getting rid of the coupe or hatch doors would you complete with panels?

ORIGINAL: Marty

you wouldn't be interested in getting rid of the coupe or hatch doors would you complete with panels?


I will have to let you know, as I'm going to need all of the harnesses and stuff from the coupe to swap all the power stuff into the hatch. I don't know what it's going to take until I get in there so we'll see. I don't want to ship them though, they're just too big and I am going to have my hands full for a long long time.

Dam, your engine build was deffinatly my favorite thread here, and when it said wrecked car i could have cryed lol, but this is gonna be so much better. I say good luck with everything, and document everything, it seems to me like you will be doing some things that need to be show how to properly be done, like the window and lock conversion, and the dying.

I do have one question, why dont you just take the dash out of the coupe and put it in the hatch? wouldnt that be easyer? or do you not want that coler either?

thats great man, when we getting chinese?!:D

Cheap cars for the win.

Awesome plan, can't wait to see the progress. I'm moving this to the project section for you. http://www.hondacivicforum.com/micons/m6.gif

that sux but man how did u get that for $300 i got mine for $800 and it has alot of miles.

Looks like the loss turned out to be a plus. Good luck with the new car, I'm sure it will be as awesome as the first.

Quick update, got official ownership of the car today. An hour later the car had my del sol seats in it and I swapped out part of the center consol... the other half will be going in tomorrow (the hatches cup holders are broken!). I pulled a few more things from the coupe while I was at it. I pulled the suspension out of the coupe and put it in the hatch while I was at it too, so right now I'm slammed on steelies haha.

Pictures in the morn.

throw dem rotas on dat beotch!!

what interior code is the hatch? k? f?

K? F?

Light grey?

[8D]

ass

Lol! Sorry dude dunno the interior codes off the top of my head. I'm putting the wheels on tomorrow when I wake up, they weren't at the shop when I put the suspension on and it was dark when I got home.

cool, btw, what suspension setup are you running?

Suspension is Koni Yellows and Ground Control springs. The ride is phenomenal, I've ridden in a lot of setups but nothing even comes close to comparing to how smooth the ride of the konis and grounds are.

Here's an interior pic so far, I have a LOT of work to do here though. I'm bringing the coupe back home this weekend after I pull the engine and such out at the shop, then getting to work on taking the entire dash/door harness' from that car and putting it into this car, ughlefuggle.

http://users.rcn.com/dwilz/interior1.jpg

I know, the seats don't look right. However, I beg of you, if you ever get a chance... sit in a set. They are some of the best seats I've ever sat in and they are cheap! Super comfy.

Here's the car slammed on some steelies.

http://users.rcn.com/dwilz/hatch4.jpg

http://users.rcn.com/dwilz/hatch5.jpg

Haha, cracks me up. Put the wheels on when I got up, I need to adjust the suspension a little bit and they don't look quite right on the silver but that will change when I paint the car. Still looks good though, can't complain.

http://users.rcn.com/dwilz/hatch6.jpg

http://users.rcn.com/dwilz/hatch7.jpg

Woo woo! I've got a lot of work to do lol.

Called around a little bit to get some paint prices, so far looks like the car will be around 1100-1400 to paint, which is not bad at all! I'm gonna purchase some Certifit 99-00 fenders and front bumper, then buy some nice headlights, CTR grille, get my CF hood, and some nice spoon knockoff mirrors. Then off to paint it goes! (hood will not be painted, I just can't drive around without one).

cool, have fun with that, it's such a pain working with interior pieces. yeah, the koni's with gc's are probably next setup after my ksports.

where's the pic?

Sorry I hit the ok button for some odd reason halfway through my post lol.

wow... its looking good so far... i can seem how those seats are comfy... but they look a little odd lol, guess thats pesonal preference... anyway good luck with the rest!

it's coming out really good. cant wait to see it finished

Looks sick already

drop/wheels look great, cant wait to see the paint:D

ORIGINAL: SovXietday

Suspension is Koni Yellows and Ground Control springs. The ride is phenomenal, I've ridden in a lot of setups but nothing even comes close to comparing to how smooth the ride of the konis and grounds are.

Here's an interior pic so far, I have a LOT of work to do here though. I'm bringing the coupe back home this weekend after I pull the engine and such out at the shop, then getting to work on taking the entire dash/door harness' from that car and putting it into this car, ughlefuggle.

http://users.rcn.com/dwilz/interior1.jpg

I know, the seats don't look right. However, I beg of you, if you ever get a chance... sit in a set. They are some of the best seats I've ever sat in and they are cheap! Super comfy.


i agree 100% almost the best seats ever offered in a honda are the del sol seats.

ORIGINAL: augie

wow... its looking good so far... i can seem how those seats are comfy... but they look a little odd lol, guess thats pesonal preference... anyway good luck with the rest!

del sol seats are in my opinion the best seats made excluding seats in the past few years...and they bolt right up...really no beating them for the price and easyness.

Wee, look what showed up at my door yesterday.

http://users.rcn.com/dwilz/lenso.jpg

13 x 7.5 Lenso VPD Drag wheels. I'm fitting them with a set of 24.5x8.5x13 slicks when I get this all done and going for 10s.

damn those are sweeeeeet!! how much?

I got em for $260 shipped from someone who bought them and never used them. They retail around 325ish.

man you are always finding killer deals on stuff lol! next time i need a part i'm gonna hit you up!!

im getting those same rims but mine are coming mounted on slicks and im getting the black ones.

I wanna see tens, and a sick compilation video lmao.

sov, i was wondering if you ever took your old car out auto-xing?

ORIGINAL: ej6buddy

sov, i was wondering if you ever took your old car out auto-xing?


Nope, auto-x is few and far between around here.

I've never thought about Sov Auto x-ing, lol. When do you expect this build to be over with? How much more do you have up your sleeve?

Don't have much more up my sleeve right now, not that I have the money for anyway. I'm just gonna make this car look really nice and then put my engine and everything else back in and just have some fun. Might upgrade a few small things, but nothing crazy as I already have pretty much everything I want. There's no sense in spending more on the Dseries, it's a "budget" build (for the power I plan on making anyway).

I pulled the engine/trans out of the coupe today and then we towed her home on a flatbed. Tomorrow I'm gonna convert it to power locks/windows and I should have a good writeup for everyone when I'm done. Don't know what I'm in for yet, as far as I can tell it's just swapping out the door harnesses but I have to find out.

As far as when this build will be done, lol, we went through this last time. Whatever I say + 2 months. [8D]

Honestly it'd be great to get this done before I go back to school in September, but we'll see. It will depend on how fast I get my parts shipped and paint done.

^ hope everything turned out fine, by the way ur car look good already with those red rims on. the red rims matches the red tail light and it look like u already have an nice clean grey paintjob

This is going to be a sweet build dood.

looking good man.. the red rims gave the car some shine.:eek:

looks great so far sov can't wait to see it finished http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k227/Peg_Leghcf/thA75064F0DD2A4A308DD99642912C8DCA.gif

nice progress so far. Glad the wheels survived. :)


ORIGINAL: SovXietday

auto-x is few and far between around here.

what! you're like 45 minutes from where the Philly Region SCCA runs. That's not far at all :)
you should take your car to one, before it goes in for paint [8D]

ORIGINAL: mxs

nice progress so far. Glad the wheels survived. :)


ORIGINAL: SovXietday

auto-x is few and far between around here.

what! you're like 45 minutes from where the Philly Region SCCA runs. That's not far at all :)
you should take your car to one, before it goes in for paint [8D]

[sm=bustedsign.gif] lol j/k.

The build is looking good man[sm=smiley20.gif]

red on silver looks hot. I honestly hated the red wheels on your black car. Im usually not a fan of cars having rims that are totally different colors but that just looks great. I wouldnt even worry with paint..

ORIGINAL: mxs

nice progress so far. Glad the wheels survived. :)


ORIGINAL: SovXietday

auto-x is few and far between around here.

what! you're like 45 minutes from where the Philly Region SCCA runs. That's not far at all :)
you should take your car to one, before it goes in for paint [8D]


I have 4 drag strips within driving distance, and the KOP SCCA doesn't run that often as far as I've been hearing. I don't know, I stopped looking into it over a year ago.

Kokasian, although you can't really see it in the pics, the car needs some body work. Has a few very minor rust spots that need to be taken out, and some deep scratches etc. Plus, I'm not a fan of silver because everything is silver.

it'll be fast..so who cares how it looks, right? Actually, red on white should look good too. Any ideas as to what the rest of the cash will go towards?

I have a feelin this is going to be the sickest build everrr.

I am gonna say again how much this build rocks, as if it hasnt been said enough, but I do have a question, why build 1.2 and not build 1.1 or 2.0?

Woot Sov, i didn't even see this thread. lol good luck with all man

ORIGINAL: cpl rampage

I am gonna say again how much this build rocks, as if it hasnt been said enough, but I do have a question, why build 1.2 and not build 1.1 or 2.0?


Not 2 because it's not a 2nd build, it's a continuation.

.2 because I didn't think of .1, lol.

Rest of the money... cage? Backup engine? Starting my own business?

Oh the possibilities. :)

Your going to need a cage for them 10's

Hey sov did you use a block gaurd in your setup. If not why? I heard the new ones dont cause hot-spots...

is just me or does there seem to be alot of really cool builds going on right now?

ORIGINAL: Lost

Hey sov did you use a block gaurd in your setup. If not why? I heard the new ones dont cause hot-spots...


Nope, they're junk honestly.

It's sick that your original setup was for a 11.5. What's changed to make it a second and a half faster?

ORIGINAL: SovXietday

ORIGINAL: mxs

nice progress so far. Glad the wheels survived. :)


ORIGINAL: SovXietday

auto-x is few and far between around here.

what! you're like 45 minutes from where the Philly Region SCCA runs. That's not far at all :)
you should take your car to one, before it goes in for paint [8D]


I have 4 drag strips within driving distance, and the KOP SCCA doesn't run that often as far as I've been hearing. I don't know, I stopped looking into it over a year ago.

Kokasian, although you can't really see it in the pics, the car needs some body work. Has a few very minor rust spots that need to be taken out, and some deep scratches etc. Plus, I'm not a fan of silver because everything is silver.



word, ur close to alot of the Philly Region events.i race with Philly Region when they hold event at Ripken Stadium in Maryland, great group fo sho. they've held alot of events at Warminster this year, i believe theres 2 left this year at Warminster with Philly.

anyways, sucks about the coupe but that hatch is gena be pretty sick.

awesome build so far sov, can't wait to see more pics of everything done. im in florida right now, ill get back with ya on those parts if i want them or not when i get back

leave it to you sov to do something as extreme to convert a car completely to a different model, engine swaps just arent enough for super sov.

this car is going to look tight though, good luck with everything, wish i was there to help ya out cuz i know your about ready to take a baseball bat to your dash [:@]

Aryiman, I still have the wiper arms but I didn't know where you ran off to and someone else bought the taillights. Sorry dude.

Johnny, the hatch is a lot lighter than the coupe was.;) And now with the extra money, you damn well better believe that I'm pulling out all the stops and going for 10s. :D

Well with the amount of work you did on your coupe i cannot wait to see how long this thread becomes....wish i had that kinda money lol but nice car(s) and goodluck definately shoudl try to auto cross it itd be nice to see what it can really do....goodluck

i thought that, ignoring the engine, the chassis of the hatchback was only about 20 pounds lighter than that of the coupe?

ORIGINAL: SovXietday

Starting my own business?



Go that route, best idea I ever had.

ORIGINAL: theblackpearl

i thought that, ignoring the engine, the chassis of the hatchback was only about 20 pounds lighter than that of the coupe?


More like 250.

Pete, I do agree. However, time/space is also a factor but I certainly have to start somewhere.

God damn, this power swap is such a nightmare. I have to swap EVERY DAMN HARNESS in the interior. :|

Note - No, I was not aware of the work that I needed to do for this power swap, but when I start something I finish it. After today I'm about half way through, started raining so I decided to pack it in.

Here is the donor.

http://users.rcn.com/dwilz/conversion1.jpg

And here is the donee. I'm beginning to like the stance of the hatch more and more.

http://users.rcn.com/dwilz/conversion2.jpg

First things first, had to start tearing all of the parts that I needed out of the coupe. We did this stuff last week in about 2 hours. Afterall, it's easy to tear apart a car you'll never use again.

http://users.rcn.com/dwilz/conversion3.jpg

Driver side door.

http://users.rcn.com/dwilz/conversion4.jpg

Yes, that's my exhaust and yes, the end touches the trunk. :P

http://users.rcn.com/dwilz/conversion5.jpg

Dashboard from the coupe.

http://users.rcn.com/dwilz/conversion6.jpg

Coupe as it sits now. My pop was going over the mess of wires over there by the fuse box.

http://users.rcn.com/dwilz/conversion7.jpg

Passenger door.

Today I began to pull apart the hatch. Pretty much pulled or moved the entire interior. Why? Because the floor harness runs from the driver front corner to about halfway through to the door where it splits. One side bridges over the ebrakes and runs to the other door, the other goes back to the fuel pump and across to the other door latch. ****ing nightmare.

http://users.rcn.com/dwilz/conversion8.jpg

Here's the hatchy after I already put half of the interior I wanted to in the damn thing.

http://users.rcn.com/dwilz/conversion9.jpg

Sunny day, and all of a sudden I got rained on for about 5 minutes. What the crap!

http://users.rcn.com/dwilz/conversion10.jpg

Coupe dash harness.

http://users.rcn.com/dwilz/conversion12.jpg

On the left, CX driver door harness. On the right, EX driver door harness. Yeah, about that.

http://users.rcn.com/dwilz/conversion13.jpg

On the left, EX electronically actuated door lock. On the right, CX manual door lock. If none of you have ever changed the locks in your car, don't. It took me about an hour just to pull the lock out of the coupe, ****ing tamperproof stuff that I had to figure out how to get around. :|

http://users.rcn.com/dwilz/conversion14.jpg

Top, EX window actuator, bottom CX roll 'em up style hunk of crap. These weren't hard to swap, but pulling the CX one out of the car was a bit tricky.

http://users.rcn.com/dwilz/conversion15.jpg

Driver side door just about done. Does it look any different? No, that's the worst part about these damn doors. You can'tsee****.

http://users.rcn.com/dwilz/conversion16.jpg

Passenger side door half way done. I finished that up and then set up the wiring harness in the driver side door before it started raining.

Tomorrow hopefully the rain won't be around and I'll be able to swap the dash harness, floor harness, and fuse box.

Recipient not Donee :D lol

Looks like that is pretty good progress for not knowing what your doing lol, unless you know what you are doing. lol

very nice work man she's coming together

ORIGINAL: Fiirkan

Recipient not Donee :D lol

Looks like that is pretty good progress for not knowing what your doing lol, unless you know what you are doing. lol


Haha, not a clue what I'm doing. Honestly, went to take the locks out of the coupe and went... ok, there are 4 bars that go to a place that I can't see... wonderful. Took me about an hour to figure out how to get it out, but once I did it wasn't too bad and took me 10 minutes to pop the hatches out and pop the EX one in. I will try to do a full writeup on this when I get done, but honestly it's not worth doing unless you have a lot of time, lol.

That, and the tips of my fingers hurt like a mofo.

Holy ton of work. Good thing you dont have a job right now, otherwise you'd NEVER get it done. ;)

ORIGINAL: SovXietday

http://users.rcn.com/dwilz/conversion8.jpg


That looks like an excuse to go to Type R carpet right there. [8D]

Good god man. You are pouring way too much work into this.... i hope it comes out nicely....you unemployed BUM!

hey your getting your car repainted championship white. why not do a different white like that comes on the caddy trucks that color is sick. also are u painting the trunk area white also i love hatchs showing the metal in the back and painted to match. why aren't u swapping the dash out of the coupe in the hatch , you know even if u dye it with that dupount vinyl dye (spray gun prof. way to do it) that can still chip its a lil harder then jus reg. paint.

^ you mean that beige white? Yea it ooks cool but I gotta say nothing looks better than a championship civic... but that IMO

Nah championship white would kick ass. That color is so sweet.

its not really beige white its super white with pearl. i guess im old school if i was gettin a whole car painted i would want something not stock so u can tell it was resprayed. championship white is def nice but im sure there are different whites out there. imo

Yeah but championship white is mad tyte jdm yo! J/k championship white isby far the sweetestcolor there is for an ek hatch.

holy sh*t, that power DIY is just about the ugliest thing i've seen in a while [&:]hope its worth it bro! :D

so you have a date for the paint yet?

Woo woo, conversion is DONE! Was actually a lot easier than I thought it was going to be as far as today's events go. Once I had pulled the climate control and cluster out of the dashboard, I realized that I didn't need to pull the dashboard out to get the harness out. So, while my dad finished running the floor harness through the passenger side I pulled the dash harness and ran the new one.

http://users.rcn.com/dwilz/conversion17.jpg

That's the old CX dash harness, notice how hacked the radio harness is. The stock radio was replaced with a tape player, yeah you heard me, a tape player. The interior also smells exactly like my grandmothers, so whoever owned this car was certainly female and old (which is probably why they could drive stick, lol).

http://users.rcn.com/dwilz/conversion18.jpg

Harnessless dashboard.

http://users.rcn.com/dwilz/conversion19.jpg

Dashboard rewired and all of my pieces installed. Basic panasonic headunit (CD player), EX cluster, and the stock radio is pushed in the back of the dash so that I can have keyless entry. :thumbup:

http://users.rcn.com/dwilz/conversion20.jpg

Passenger side door finished.

http://users.rcn.com/dwilz/conversion21.jpg

Driver side door finished.

http://users.rcn.com/dwilz/conversion22.jpg

http://users.rcn.com/dwilz/conversion23.jpg

Interior reinstalled and then vacuumed the carpet. Seats were then reinstalled.

http://users.rcn.com/dwilz/conversion24.jpg

Working EX cluster.

http://users.rcn.com/dwilz/conversion25.jpg

Working CD player and all of it's units.

When we first turned on the car there were two problems. The first was that the CD player was not getting power. Grabbed a test light and found the problem, when we pulled the dash out of the coupe the aftermarket harness that I bought for the CD got caught on something and pulled the pin out. Needless to say, we repinned it in the wrong spot and the player didn't have any power.

2nd problem was that the windows didn't roll up. If you refer back to the first picture in this post, the CX dash harness is sitting next to the EX dash fuse box. There are three large relays at the top. The top left one says "PW" on it for power windows. Swapped that into our CX fuse box and walla, power windows.

Everything works like a charm. I have power locks with keyless entry, working power windows, a CD player, and a tach. :thumbup: Overall work, about 10 hours total, mind I had no idea what I was doing and had to figure out everything as I went. If I had to do it again, I could probably cut the time in half.

Was it worth it? Absolutely. =)

Now I have to go replace my dome light bulb, lol. I burnt it out with the doors being open for so long. :P

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I'm pretty set on champion white absolute, reason being is that I'm trying to save as much of the 5000 as I can. I really don't want to pour it all into a car, although it probably will end up that way. Champion white is a stock Honda color, easy to respray a panel when it gets scratched (not if, lol, when). Paint will only be done on the outside, as the interior will probably stay in for most of the time.

I still haven't gotten the money, so date as far as paint goes is up in the air. Probably won't be for a while though, I want to get it done before school starts but we'll see how that turns out. Lots of work to do still, but so far so good. :)

idk, i really say keep it silver (well, depending on the current paintjob condition) it will save you a crap load of cash, time, and you'll have a lot better quality car. i say just get a mean looking spoiler and lip and work on the suspension. :D

ORIGINAL: ej6buddy

idk, i really say keep it silver (well, depending on the current paintjob condition) it will save you a crap load of cash, time, and you'll have a lot better quality car. i say just get a mean looking spoiler and lip and work on the suspension. :D


Car defo needs a new paint job, silver hides scratches well in pictures.

I have Koni's, Grounds, ETD Traction bar and rear LCAs. What suspension do I need still? Lol.

my bad, didn't know.

Glad to see that your project is coming along well, sound slike right now were in the same boat waiting for our money to come. it sucks when you have it sitting out there and you want to do more work to it.

Looking good man, glad my car has all power as that swap looked like it sucked lol.

nice job on the rewire looks clean, hey what might you be doing with that flat rear center councel in the ex? im looking for a spare for mine just in case type deal??

Well I sold the coupe to someone who is going to fix it for a DD. I told him that he'll probably get it in a few weeks. So whatever came out of the hatch got tossed in the coupe for the guy to have, I just want to get my stuff out of it.

On another note, wired up my gauges last night. Built a wire harness and everything for them, so now all I need to do is hook them up to the senders when I put the new engine in.

http://users.rcn.com/dwilz/gauges.jpg

Someone gave me the carbon fiber bezel for free, picture doesn't do it justice. Since I have CF series autometer gauges, it looks like they are a part of the bezel. :) Like I said, gauges don't function but they sure as hell light up, hehe.

STILL haven't gotten my insurance money, so last night I fronted my own money for the IC piping that I need and I also purchased the new Synapse BOV because I got tired of the Greddy RS that I had. Couldn't wait for the money because the only chance I have to install the engine before school is the 11-12th of August, so that means I need to hurry up and get my stuff here.

Pics as it all comes.

Beautiful upgrades. I'm so jealous.

man that bezel/gauges look GREAT! I'm super super jealous. Congrats on the power upgrades, and you're planning on painting EVERYTHING white right? Like side bumpers/side skirts/lips (if you get any) right? Thatd look so good. :)

ORIGINAL: FlipHKD720

man that bezel/gauges look GREAT! I'm super super jealous. Congrats on the power upgrades, and you're planning on painting EVERYTHING white right? Like side bumpers/side skirts/lips (if you get any) right? Thatd look so good. :)


Everything but the CF pieces will be painted white, except for the engine bay and interior.

oh yea, ru doin the CF/white two tone look? What all ru gonna have CF?

Mugen front lip, Seibon Hood, spoon wing, thinking about a cf rear lip but not sure. Everything else will be white.

Damn SOV!!! You have been busy. Looks really good. I love it all!!!

damn, this is gonna be great :D

Hey sov (sorry if I missed it in your other project thread) which gauges are you running? ...a/f, boost, oil pressure?

Sweet Sov looks like it will be great ....still:D

ORIGINAL: Lost

Hey sov (sorry if I missed it in your other project thread) which gauges are you running? ...a/f, boost, oil pressure?


Gauges -
Autometer Carbon Fiber Series:
-Boost
-Water Temp
-Oil Press
PLX M300 with digital readout
APEXi AVCR (has RPM, speed in KPH, boost in Kpa/BAR, injector duty cycle, TPS, annnd... something else I can't remember)

Lots of cool gadgets :)

GO-GO-GADGET TURBO D! lol

sov im lovin the way this car is already coming and it is going to be sick.

anyway, u cant believe u got that hatch for so cheap. if you know of or see any nice hatches like yours or a nice shell eg or ek, preferably ek let me know. i have about 800 i want to spend on it.

when you going to swap motors sov? or are you painting and everything before you even do your swap?

and what the hell have you been driving around?

i think he's gonna get everything done before the swap. i think he's painting the engine bay black, so it'll blend, so it'll take some time.

i think he's driving his hatch around, somewhere around here i thought he mentioned it going really slow....lol

looks good! very nice...
PM sent to ya ;)

ORIGINAL: FlipHKD720

i think he's driving his hatch around, somewhere around here i thought he mentioned it going really slow....lol


Like you have no idea. I went from a car that traps just over 100 to a car that can't even reach 100.

Engine is going in next weekend, we decided to do that first. Yes the engine bay is getting sprayed black. After thinking about it I wanted to spray it BEFORE I painted it, that way I won't get any accidental overspray on the fenders or something like that. This week and next will be spent prepping so that I don't have to do any stupid wiring or mounting or fabbing.

Whoooo
One of the nicest Hatch's on HCF.
Will this be the fastest car on HCF?
Aside from patricks Dodge.

just curious, but can you remind me how much hp you were making with the engine, or did you not have a chance to dyno it before the crash??

250whp, with big boost leak. On low boost too i think.

250whp and 210wtq on 12psi running really rich and not enough timing. The BOV was creeping open and holding me at 12psi pretty much. I never got to dyno it once I got everything to work for me though.

and that's with your d16z or d16y?

D16Z6 - 250whp and 210wtq

so sov, you said you spent around 5000 to build it to that power right??

so do you think it would be cheaper to get to 250-300whp by building my y7, buying and building a z6 or y8, or swapping out to a b series and building that? probably a turbo with all the options

The entire engine has about 1200 in it including headwork. It's ready for ~400-500whp no problem. The transmission has been regeared and has an LSD added to it, it has nothing to do with the strength of the trans though.

The turbo setup itself is what costs all the money. Bseries/Dseries not withstanding.

just curious, what do you think the engine will be pushing out without the turbo, would it be just like stock??

so you spent around 3800 on the turbo?? did you buy a turbo kit, if so, from where?? or did you put one together yourself??

lol, without the turbo, it would probably push barely anything considering he's running low comp pistons. well, maybe stock power or more, idk. and he definitely pieced all of his parts together.

i see i see, so now i know that it would be pointless not to have the turbo.

i looked at the diyturbo site, i forgot the exact address, but i remember that it didn't really teach anything. so do you have any advice on where i could find a step by step guide to piecing together my own turbo?

go to the nitrous/sc/turbo section of this forum and there are about 3-4 stickies and one of them tells you the parts you will need and others just have a lot of good info. actually, i learned 90% about my turbo setup from sov, he can tell anybody thats just getting started what they need to know / do.

hes a genius, if you havent noticed from this thread alone

whoa, i never even noticed any of the other forums under the general automotive sections
i feel like a complete idiot, thankz, i'll go check out those now

Here, I'll put it this way, I spent about ~4K on everything I need to turbocharge the engine correctly. As far as I'm concerned, the clutch, injectors, fuel pump, and Hondata S300 (or any EMS) is just as important as the turbo itself.

My new Synapse BOV came in last night, it's pretty damn sexy. I'll get some pics of it tomorrow.

Oh and without the turbo, uhh... 115whp because of the cam if I'm lucky? Lol, the car's a dog out of boost.

ORIGINAL: SovXietday

Here, I'll put it this way, I spent about ~4K on everything I need to turbocharge the engine correctly. As far as I'm concerned, the clutch, injectors, fuel pump, and Hondata S300 (or any EMS) is just as important as the turbo itself.

My new Synapse BOV came in last night, it's pretty damn sexy. I'll get some pics of it tomorrow.

Oh and without the turbo, uhh... 115whp because of the cam if I'm lucky? Lol, the car's a dog out of boost.



haha, i was right, now throw that pic of the bov up

http://users.rcn.com/dwilz/bov.jpg

I'm having trouble getting the flange off, I need to put an aluminum one on there and they use these tiny little allen wrench locking screws. I hate those ****ers, because of course I can't get them out.

I'll get them off sooner or later but it's just annoying ya know?

Oh, what is it. This is a Synapse Engineering blow off valve. It's one of a kind piston actuated blow off valve. No diaphrams and the best part is that BOOST HOLDS IT CLOSED!!!! No more leaking under boost! :)

That's about it for now, I have my piping coming in the mail tomorrow and on Tues I'm gonna probably mount the IC and prefab all the piping. Going to try and get it welded up before I put it in, but I'll probably just have someone quick weld the BOV flange on and then hose clamp everything and wait until I get the new bumper and fog lights before I get everything welded up and finalized.

i've seen that before somewhere, it's hella nice though.

BOV looks damn sick Sov

that bov is pretty quite, looks awesome though. You prolly like quiet, i would want people to know there is a monster under my hood

I've heard it's quiet when recirculated, not so quiet when it's not. This isn't getting recirculated so it should be fairly loud.

theres soe videos on google of it. I watched one on a turbo S2000 andcould barely hear it over the engine and wastegate. Even if it makes no sound its a nice piece

looks good, i like the hks ssq bov my friend has it on his evo its loud

definitely looks nice, but i would prefer quiet to retain the sleeper route

^ +1 at my school we have one rule never show whats under your car hood to alway keep ur car a sleeper

hard to keep a car a sleeper at school ;)one race and everyone knows exactly whats under the hood lol.

sov, whats your eta on completion of the hatchattack.

is this the vid you were talking about kokasian? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MU5Y6d9rh1k

ORIGINAL: didder

hard to keep a car a sleeper at school ;)one race and everyone knows exactly whats under the hood lol.

sov, whats your eta on completion of the hatchattack.


My car is loud, has a cammed idle, spools loud enough to hear, has a big FMIC up front, etc etc etc. What's the point in making it a sleeper?

Hatch should be done... in like a month or two. Who knows.

Lol. and we all know take the date and add two monthss[8D]

Lol, well the engine WILL be in this weekend, so that's not an issue.

Today I mounted the intercooler and fabbed up the IC pipes. Worked out pretty well, here's what the car looks like so far. Kinda dark I'll try to get better pics tomorrow.

http://users.rcn.com/dwilz/fmic.jpg

I say spray paint with a big stencil on your interfooler: "S.O.V." lol

ORIGINAL: ej6buddy

I say spray paint with a big stencil on your interfooler: "S.O.V." lol



might be a nice touch.....

call it theft prevension as well ;)

I found your car's twin [8D]
http://hondamarketplace.com/zerothread?id=2064216

awe, that blows, but at least he's painting it and his will be faster.

ORIGINAL: ej6buddy

awe, that blows, but at least he's painting it and his will be faster.


this SOVs will be faster AND if he ever wrecks again :( he will have air bags.LOL that copy doesnt have air bags.LOL

yo Sov what kind of rims is tht on ur car? because i seen those rims on plenty of cars are those the circuit 8 rims?

Rota GT3's

ORIGINAL: ej6buddy

awe, that blows, but at least he's painting it and his will be faster.


Jesus who honestly would pay 9K for a stock hatchback with a C5 engine?! That's just retarded.

I have 16 Rota GT3s.

Well here's the progress today thus far, it's really facking hot out so I am not sure if I feel like doing anything else today, although I really should.

http://users.rcn.com/dwilz/fmic2.jpg

Better picture from last night, I washed her a bit today too, didn't really change much though lol.

Had my fabricator weld the bov flange onto the IC piping today.

http://users.rcn.com/dwilz/bov2.jpg

http://users.rcn.com/dwilz/bov3.jpg

That's all so far today, I'll probably mount my PLX M300 and APEXi AVCR screens a little later tonight.

I love this build.

i hear ya sov, its been 90 and sticky here every day since i can remember, and im way to lazy to pull my car into the a/c shop lol.

keep it up though, maybe someday ill come out there and race ya when i drop my built y8 block in [8D]

z6 vs. y8, DUN DUN DUNNNNN

yeah, it's 101 and 107 here with heat index, so 90's are pretty good

90s was yesterday, today is around 98 with 95% humidity... soo it feels almost 110.[&:]

Anyway, just got done mounting the M300. I was pouring with sweat so I just stopped after that.

http://users.rcn.com/dwilz/m300.jpg

http://users.rcn.com/dwilz/m3002.jpg

Tomorrow I'm pulling the engine and painting the engine bay.

looks tight, im jealous of your gauge / cluster, mines just oem looking and boring. makes me so happy to see my stuff installed



then so sad to see yours installed the next day [:@]

What are you going to do with all that gas? Your other engine doesn't run the same octane?

I just filled it up yesterday with 93.

Nice[8D]
tell me is paying more for gas worth boost?

^ DA*N right lol i wouldnt mind

What, you mean like pay $0.10 more a gallon for gas? Lol, of course it's worth it.

116 is like $5.00 a gallon lol.

That looks awsome so far, great job!!

ORIGINAL: SovXietday

What, you mean like pay $0.10 more a gallon for gas? Lol, of course it's worth it.

116 is like $5.00 a gallon lol.

Im sure it gets old if your commuting alot, but im sure its worth it. 5 bucks a gallon would SUCK

what? premiums only like a dollar more for a tank. i buy it all the time. it's worth it when you get a better idle.

ORIGINAL: johnny

ORIGINAL: SovXietday

What, you mean like pay $0.10 more a gallon for gas? Lol, of course it's worth it.

116 is like $5.00 a gallon lol.

Im sure it gets old if your commuting alot, but im sure its worth it. 5 bucks a gallon would SUCK


I still get better gas mileage than most of the stock vehicles on the road (~25mpg average) and it costs me like $28 to fill up from E. It's not a big deal at all, I don't even look at the prices anymore I just pull in, gas up, and leave.

i was under the impression that 25mpg is bad, But when you think about it, your pushin like 250 horsepower, and you probly take it to redline more times than not. haha.(just kiddin) A stock ls1 gets like 15 probly at best[8D]

When I was running my banshee I had to run 110 octane in that and then add 2-stroke racing oil and octane booster to it, then rip through about 30 gallons a weekend. You figure it comes out to about 7 dollars a gallon times 30 gallons about 210 dollars on gas for one weekend that sucked. Now you can see why my new hobby is my car to lol.

hey sov, do you think you can post up a pic of your wastegate, i would like to see what it looks like and how it's connected to everything.

i asked my turbo buddies but they all said that they have internal stock wastegates and aren't really sure how it's connected.

one more thing sov, where did you get your vitara pistons?

i researched online, and all i found was like ten people telling me to pm fjt on honda-tech, but i can't message him because i think i haven't posted enough there or something. anywayz, did you get your pistons from him, or somewhere else?

I got my pistson off of FJT, he's the only person who sells them, you can also PM him on turbod16.com, I don't believe their's a trial period on that site.

Here's a pic of manifold/turbo/wastegate

http://users.rcn.com/dwilz/wg1.jpg

http://users.rcn.com/dwilz/wg2.jpg

[sm=redx.gif]idk maybe its my computer, but i want more pics from this build!

Aaron, did you happen to ask your fabricator about what I need done?

ORIGINAL: Roto

Aaron, did you happen to ask your fabricator about what I need done?


Yessir, the only info I could get for you was that he can do it, but he has no idea what the price range would be without more info.

Did a few things today. Mountd the APEXi earlier this morning.

http://users.rcn.com/dwilz/ebc.jpg

Just got home from the shop not too long ago too. Pulled the engine out today.

http://users.rcn.com/dwilz/reswap1.jpg

http://users.rcn.com/dwilz/reswap2.jpg

Most of the meat of the install will be done tomorrow.:)

haha..you said meat

good luck with the intstall, I'm ready for some numbers without a boost leak

looking at that apexi unit, i've seen people use the 99-00 cupholders and they just fit right in. they look really neat if you ask me. but looks good though.

Woke up today at 6am and my dad and I drove down to the shop and got right to work. First things first, finish up pulling the little **** out and cleaned up the engine bay.

http://users.rcn.com/dwilz/reswap4.jpg

Installed the new radiator and bolted the crossbar from my traction bar on. Completely forgot some of the bolts for it though, so I only got the crossbar on.

http://users.rcn.com/dwilz/reswap3.jpg

Assembled the fuel rail, injectors, IACV, and TB on the new BLOX intake manifold.

http://users.rcn.com/dwilz/reswap5.jpg

Car was ready for the engine.

http://users.rcn.com/dwilz/reswap6.jpg

Engine's in and we started fitting up the intake manifold. The runners are very long compared to the stock IM, so it was a bit of a tight squeeze to get past the firewall. Nothing terrible though. =)

http://users.rcn.com/dwilz/reswap7.jpg

http://users.rcn.com/dwilz/reswap8.jpg

http://users.rcn.com/dwilz/reswap10.jpg

Well I think the next is the obvious.

http://users.rcn.com/dwilz/reswap9.jpg

http://users.rcn.com/dwilz/reswap11.jpg

http://users.rcn.com/dwilz/reswap12.jpg

^ That was finished by 11:30AM, took a lunch break there.

Ok, time to put on the exhaust. We weren't too sure if it was going to fit up right because the exaust was originally constructed for a coupe.

http://users.rcn.com/dwilz/reswap13.jpg

Piece one fit no problem. It goes from the turbo all the way to the rear axle. However, the small axle back piece needed to be shortened. This was a big issue being as the pieces didn't exactly want to line up and the muffler is rather big for the room it had to fit in. So we had to do some cutting and welding, mind we don't have much experience with this and with so little to work with it came out a bit crooked and slanted, but oh well, function > form.

http://users.rcn.com/dwilz/reswap14.jpg

http://users.rcn.com/dwilz/reswap15.jpg

http://users.rcn.com/dwilz/reswap16.jpg

Then moved on to the IC piping. I had to fab up the hot side.

http://users.rcn.com/dwilz/reswap17.jpg

I need to adjust it a bit, after I put it all together I realized... oh ****, the arms on the traction bar don't fit with this here. :| Ehh I'll fix it in the morn. Moved onto what I fabbed the other day.

http://users.rcn.com/dwilz/reswap18.jpg

Got to here and got mad at it and called it a day.

http://users.rcn.com/dwilz/reswap19.jpg

I need to put an extra long coupler on the 45 you see laying there in order for it to work since the throttle body got pushed back about 4" by the intake manifold. D'oh. I'll get it all welded up later, but I want to get it boostable.

Finishing up tomorrow, I'm so beat.

Are you kidding me? Holy ****. Its almost done!
Looks amazing! I thought you had a Apexi WS2 on there? what exhaust you runing now?

nice, and when i say that i/m, i was like dammmmm, that thing has some longass runners. ++ points for the valve cover as well.

i cant belive you did that all in a day

you and your pops make quite a team sov. i am pumped to see what she tunes to now that you got a bov that wont leak [8D]

holy sh*t, thast quite the day

going back, HOW DID I MISS YOUR CAR GETTING PAINTED?! WTF?!

and the valve cover is amazing :DIM looks great, basically the whole things looks aweosme, cant wait to see it complteyl finsiehd

ORIGINAL: FlipHKD720

holy sh*t, thast quite the day

going back, HOW DID I MISS YOUR CAR GETTING PAINTED?! WTF?!

and the valve cover is amazing :DIM looks great, basically the whole things looks aweosme, cant wait to see it complteyl finsiehd


Car isn't painted yet, you haven't missed anything yet.

I am surprised and happy that we got it so far just today, for a while I thought we were gonna finish up but the fabbing stuff takes a long ass time and we decided to finish around 5 or so.

So when should i start hanging around the H-T kill stories section?[8D]

the wastegate mainly controls the amount of boost right? can you take closer pictures of your of your wastegate again? i wanna know where the hole right under the wastegate leads to.
sorry for making you do this, but the internet doesn't tend to show clear pictures that really show how a turbo is really set up, the internet only explains the process or function of a turbo system

wow sov that looks great man. when you start doing numerous turbo installs it goes pretty damn smooth and if you have all the right parts its a piece of cake.

1st turbo build = months upon months of pain staking work

2nd = a day sweatin' your ass off

ORIGINAL: theblackpearl

the wastegate mainly controls the amount of boost right? can you take closer pictures of your of your wastegate again? i wanna know where the hole right under the wastegate leads to.
sorry for making you do this, but the internet doesn't tend to show clear pictures that really show how a turbo is really set up, the internet only explains the process or function of a turbo system


The hole under the wastegate gets vented to atmosphere, not much else to see. You're not going to see anything else if I take super close up pictures, it's very simple. 2 pathes for the air to take, one goes through the turbocharger and spins the turbocharger, the other goes through the wastegate, skipping the turbo and either can be routed to expel to atmosphere or go back into the exhaust. It's nothing complicated at all.

Engine's in.:)

Ok, started off this morning by putting the torsion bars on the traction bar on. Bolted everything up and put the piping back on.

http://users.rcn.com/dwilz/reswap20.jpg

http://users.rcn.com/dwilz/reswap21.jpg

Moved on to the charge piping. It's weird when you spend an hour trying to figure something out, put it down, come back the next day and figure it out in 5 minutes. We cut about 2" off one end of the 45 and put the couplers in, not perfectly straight but it works. Also put the new BOV on, the vacuum line was changed significantly later.

http://users.rcn.com/dwilz/reswap22.jpg

http://users.rcn.com/dwilz/reswap23.jpg

After that, all we had to do was wire up the gauges, boost controller, and wideband. We did that, and that was it. Finished at last!

http://users.rcn.com/dwilz/reswap24.jpg

http://users.rcn.com/dwilz/reswap25.jpg

http://users.rcn.com/dwilz/reswap26.jpg

http://users.rcn.com/dwilz/reswap27.jpg

By the time I got home I had to reclamp a coupler lol. I put some hair spray on it, hoping that does the job. She facking moves though, and the traction bar makes a huge difference in having traction.

Also got my check for the coupe today, so I'm going to put that in my account and start ordering parts. =)

Awesome. Pure Awesome. Looks great, Sov!

your a nutcase, cant believe you finished this so freakin fast. unbelievable

whats in store for the check you just recieved in the mail? rings / retainers / cam gear maybe? or did you already beef up your head besides your cam.

he's pretty much done with the motor, he said earlier in the thread that he's doing a front conversion, and paint job with a few accessories.

dam that was a quick instal!!!!!!! WOW.....

everything looks great!

ORIGINAL: SovXietday

Moved on to the charge piping. It's weird when you spend an hour trying to figure something out, put it down, come back the next day and figure it out in 5 minutes. We cut about 2" off one end of the 45 and put the couplers in, not perfectly straight but it works. Also put the new BOV on, the vacuum line was changed significantly later.



dont you love it when that happens? lol sometimes your mind get so worn out that you overthink things and come back and say wtf was i thinking? lol had a lot of those during my install. glad to see you got it done quick, when is the tuning gonna be done?

Debating whether or not I want to change the injectors out, I really don't feel like retuning partial throttle right now although it's not really that huge of a deal. I think I'm going to wait for E85 to come out before I bother upgrading the injectors, in which case I'll need to retune anyway.

Need to work out the charge pipes blowing off issue that I have, then I'll get some dyno time and make some power.

actually, that was the exact explanation i was looking for, thankz sov.

congratulations on finally gettin it all together again.

where did you buy the ramhorn manifold, i saw one that looks just like that on tuner toys for 575, do you think that is a good deal? where did you get yours?

Damn your F'ing nuts to install that all that fast. I wish i could do all mine that fast lol

ORIGINAL: SovXietday

Debating whether or not I want to change the injectors out, I really don't feel like retuning partial throttle right now although it's not really that huge of a deal. I think I'm going to wait for E85 to come out before I bother upgrading the injectors, in which case I'll need to retune anyway.

Need to work out the charge pipes blowing off issue that I have, then I'll get some dyno time and make some power.



E85???? you gonna convert your fuel system over to that?

Wow

Dude, for real thats crazy

edit: so..can we get a burnout pic?

ORIGINAL: kokasian

Dude, for real thats crazy

edit: so..can we get a burnout video?



Fixed:D

So what front end conversion are you doing 99-00? or Acura EL?

Just to give you an idea of what that looks like
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/8/web/2456000-2456999/2456220_71_full.jpg

^^^ thats pretty sick

it looks good, but doesn't flow with the body, so it looks out of place.

ORIGINAL: aryiman98civic

ORIGINAL: SovXietday

Debating whether or not I want to change the injectors out, I really don't feel like retuning partial throttle right now although it's not really that huge of a deal. I think I'm going to wait for E85 to come out before I bother upgrading the injectors, in which case I'll need to retune anyway.

Need to work out the charge pipes blowing off issue that I have, then I'll get some dyno time and make some power.



E85???? you gonna convert your fuel system over to that?



1000cc injectors is all I'll need, of course I'll also need to tune the car to run on it.

99-00, the EL looks pretty good but something seems out of place with it.

Burnout vid? When I get my new tires, sure. :)

lol your interior is sick, gauges/electronica nd whatnot, but whats the little gadget in what looks like coin holder? (to the right and below of the steering wheel)

and in a few of those pic it looked like it was painted, now it looks like it used to be though

and have you tuned yet? You said "she fackin moves" haha so it seems like you might have tuned

ORIGINAL: FlipHKD720
but whats the little gadget in what looks like coin holder? (to the right and below of the steering wheel)


turbo timer

is e85 that new fuel that is made from corn?? is that what you're plannin on usin??

i wouldnt use it..... from what i hear E85 sucks.... makes your engine run hotter... gets less gas milage.... and isnt that much cheaper!

i want your wideband

ORIGINAL: addiction2bass

i wouldnt use it..... from what i hear E85 sucks.... makes your engine run hotter... gets less gas milage.... and isnt that much cheaper!


E85 = 85% ethanol and 15% 87 octane

Ethanol burns WAY cooler than gasoline ever will. Not to mention it's rated at something like 108 octane. Yes, it does take 30-40% more fuel in order to combust correctly so you will get less gas mileage, but it's generally priced a little less than standard 87 octane.

In other words, I could drive around like I'm on race gas 24/7.

Seriously, when it comes to high horsepower cars, the cost of gas is nothing.

Nice work man....

Man Sov that thing is mint.Awesome build... thanks for taking us along for the ride. :D

lol sov, in minnesota e85 is everywhere you should live here then :)

as i recall its not 100% done... theres still a matter of painting, and i think a few cosmetic things [8D]

but gives me something for my lil hatch to aspire towards... one day...

Yeah, I just spent almost 1800 today in parts, damn cars, so expensive.

lol, like it's really coming out of your pocket though, lol.

ya well at least you have 1800 to even spend on your car. im so jealous

do you guys have e85 just at your gas stations? cuz i live in colorado and i don't think i've even seen a gas station with e85. so you guys are either lucky or i'm just blind

ORIGINAL: Sigracer10

ya well at least you have 1800 to even spend on your car. im so jealous



actualy hes got about 5K to spend........ im definatly hating.LOL

makes me wanna try and get in a accident... ill take a hit and have over 7K in insurance money from my car.LOL



BUT ANYWAYS.... you gonna say what you spent 1800 bucks on????

ORIGINAL: SovXietday

Yeah, I just spent almost 1800 today in parts, damn cars, so expensive.


lol you cant be that vague (sp?), you know we all want details :D

ORIGINAL: SovXietday

99-00, the EL looks pretty good but something seems out of place with it.

Burnout vid? When I get my new tires, sure. :)



Yeah i thought the same thing first time i saw it, but i figured i woul give you a heads up that it is possible lol

Why do you have to leave us in the dark like that, we wanna know what you got:D

ORIGINAL: theblackpearl

do you guys have e85 just at your gas stations? cuz i live in colorado and i don't think i've even seen a gas station with e85. so you guys are either lucky or i'm just blind


they have them up hear north in like ft.collins i have seen them and some in greeley

YOU BETER HAVE THOSE PARTS AND BE INSTALING THEM RIGHT NOW....... i cannt hold on much longer.... STOP BEING A TEASE!!!!!!

so aaron, did you get all of those cf goodies and front end?

Sorry guys wasn't in a good mood yesterday. Anywho.

Certifit 99-00 front bumper
Certifit 99-00 fenders
Seibon CF Hood
CF Mugen front lip
CF Spoon rear wing
CTR rear lip
CTR grill
Spoon Mirrors
Black housing headlights
HIDs
Yellow fogs
99-00 Taillights
8 Extended wheel studs (for my slicks)
Red ITR Honda badge

Letting my debit card cool down for a little while and get the majority of my parts in before I start to piece together the rest of what I want if anything.

whats a certifit bumper? just like a oem clone?

i want to replace my front bumper to a OEM bumper cause mines aftermarket that just doesnt seem to fit well.... not sure if its the bumper OR fenders.... but i want a OEM bumper anyways so ill start out with it... is only like 170bucks from dealer. not to bad. and ill paint it myself after i get my paint color figured out!

OEM clone that the majority of body shops use as replacements.

certifit just guarantees the parts fit, it's usually oem standard or it's equivilent. speaking of which, where did you get it because i was gonna get a hood and get it painted.

www.certifit.com

i woulda gone clear fogs, but that part list ^ up there is gonna be killer [8D]i'm super stoked to see the results

sov, what did your certafit front bumper cost? and what did it the passenger side f fender cost [8D]my comps broken so i cant check prices but the dealer is 20 minutes from my house so im set ;)

living in minnesota sucks, everything goes to hell in 2 winters lol

well instead of yellow fogs id say just regular clear..... cause after you add the HIDs the fogs will look yellow ;)
like mine..
http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e250/addiction2bass/NEW%2099%20Civic%20EX/OEM%20fog%20lights/oemfoglights034.jpg
http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e250/addiction2bass/NEW%2099%20Civic%20EX/OEM%20fog%20lights/oemfoglights037.jpg

LOL

yes, there's one located in charlotte, and a hood only costs 60 bucks using my uncles shop...hell yeah. :D

DANG ONLY 60bucks.... WOW... to bad i cannt get thier site to open up :(

Fenders were 20 a piece, front bumper was 34.

Definitely yellow fogs > clear fogs.

I love this build so much

ya im lucky and have a certifit right down the street from where I live. I replaced a whole front end of a 98 chevy through them for about $250, and a 99-00 conversion was gonna be somewhere in the same range for parts. Its good and the stuff fits pretty well. the only downside is that the metal parts are usually a thinner gauge than oem, but it still works well.

:eek: Anyway, badass ride man, way to go!

ORIGINAL: SovXietday

Fenders were 20 a piece, front bumper was 34.



34bucks WOW!!!!!! that aint nothing.... how much is shiping for it? or ya picken them up localy?
thats hella cheap!!!!!
get some pictures of the bumper from behind it.... im interested if it looks like my bumper or not from the backside which didnt have any fog light marking cut spots like the OEM bumper is suposed to have.... :(

i had to preaty much guess it out...

I can vouche for Certifit. We have one on the other side of town here andeverything I've gotten from them fit great... at dirt cheap prices. Anyway, on with the build... keep it coming Sov! :)

Holy crap, the only thing i am gonna pick about that list that you made... is that you are taking the HID kit route... which i no longer recomend lol. once i get my retro done everyone will know why lol

But yeah i would of prefered a type R wing then the spoon wing on an ek, but it will still look killer.

Sov this is making me have a new respect for hatch's

Sorry if I missed it, but do these Certifit parts come painted or no?

$34 for a front bumper cover is ****in bad ass. Might be worth replacing mine at that price (FMIC hole in the bottom grill)

.....or maybe I'll just put black mesh in there:D

not painted fo sho, but that is a killer price, I wish they carried saab parts...

don't worry about the yellow fog lights, they look beautiful on my car at least.

i would've preferred the type r wing too, it looks more aggressive and complements the body lines of the hatch better, but the spoon is alright i guess.

seems like it'll look a lot like my car, other than the fact that you're using cf.

are hid's just a type of light bulb? because i was researching at this one sight and they said that you needed a special housing for it or something. can someone explain it to me?

ORIGINAL: theblackpearl

don't worry about the yellow fog lights, they look beautiful on my car at least.

i would've preferred the type r wing too, it looks more aggressive and complements the body lines of the hatch better, but the spoon is alright i guess.

seems like it'll look a lot like my car, other than the fact that you're using cf.

are hid's just a type of light bulb? because i was researching at this one sight and they said that you needed a special housing for it or something. can someone explain it to me?


Not a fan of the CTR wing personally, too flarry for my taste. I'm like very simple smooth body lines. The spoon looks just like stock only a bit bigger.

I'm not sure myself on how the HID kits work, I will have to wait to get mine in before I can figure out what's going on. A friend of mine has a kit, a cuttoff, and can see sooo much better than I can with his lowbeams so I decided to go with them. What the hell right, lol.

ya a HID kit is still BETER than stock.... BUT with a retrofit they will be EVEN BETER... but also costs alot more!

retrofit is the ONLY way to do it right...

ORIGINAL: Roto

retrofit is the ONLY way to do it right...


As long as I can see I don't care, lol.

ya just be sure to adjust your headlights good and it will be fine.... i have mine adjusted about right and ive never been flashed.... but some people slap the HID kits in and get flashed all the time.LOL cause they dont adjust thier headlights.

i wanna do a retro fit BUT they just aint cheap to do :(

ORIGINAL: SovXietday

ORIGINAL: Roto

retrofit is the ONLY way to do it right...


As long as I can see I don't care, lol.



+1 thts how i see it too

can someone explain to me what a retrofit is and how much money are we looking at for one of these kits?

and i'm guessing that they're not just light bulbs right, gotcha

retrofiting hids consists of geting a car that CAME STOCK with HIDs taking apart thier headlights to remove the HID housing which is what aims the light beam and everything, also its HID bulbs and ballasts... THEN taking your headlights cuting a BIG hole in them and then securing the new HID housing into your headlight housing... and NOW you have a SUPER SICK LOOKING cut off beam and NO GLARE at all from the HIDS... and also TYPICALY most OEM HID ballasts fire up instantly.... most aftermarket HIDS give ya a FLASH of light then dim down and within 30seconds are to thier full brightness.
heres what ya take and make it fit in your headlight housings...
http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z138/oemxenonparts3/DSC07187.jpg
its the only way to get THIS kinda cut off beam...
http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s150/oemxenon_parts/DSC05516.jpg




tho with doing this kinda swap ya need to do your reseach... cause some HID projectors are beter than others.... and most the time they are more expesive as well.LOL
check out HIDplanet.com i think they talk ALOT about them over thier....

http://users.rcn.com/dwilz/tails1.jpg

Yuck

http://users.rcn.com/dwilz/tails2.jpg

Oooo0o0o.

http://users.rcn.com/dwilz/tails3.jpg

http://users.rcn.com/dwilz/tails4.jpg

Done.

Oh, and got new rubber for up front.

http://users.rcn.com/dwilz/tires1.jpg

Traction? Yes, I do hope so.

Trying to get my hood, it's in Philly somewhere and they won't deliver it to my house so now I get to be mad! Yay! ****ers.

Nice... very nice...

gotta love philly...

lovin the tails Sov

tails look nice, You think the Bf's will transfer 300+ hp into 300whp? i sure hope so[8D]

when you gettin the championship white paintjob aaron?

When I finally get all my stuff it'll be off to paint, I need to get a quote this week and hopefully should be ready to go, maybe if I'm lucky by the end of this week?

ya BE SURE to write down the milage from the car! or take out the computer! THAT WAY they cannt drive your sh**..... LETS FACE IT... if I WAS WORKEN ON THAT CAR..... WELL......... lets just say the URGE WOULD BE TO STRONG NOT TO TRY! LOL

don't take out the computer, what if they have to move it around a little. but i guess writing down the mileage sounds like a good idea.