i currently have a 2002 mustang v6 vert... es its fun in the summer but hell it eats gas. i am looking at a 91-01 honda civic hatch or maybe a gsr integra. one of my buddies tells me this would be two of the smartest building cars. i want BOOST! i woiuld eventually like to pull an evo or even an STI. my uestion to you guys is, which ne of these cars, if built right could i do this with, with not having to mod the engone to much (ie. excluding all turbo parts) i want a fast car, and hondas are the way to go. i found a site where i can pick up an engine for a few hundred bucks, which is nice beacuse if i drive with too much boost, i can just get a new motor, if the old one blows. i know this is alot of info to take in but what do you guy think i should do, i have a basic understanding of how turbo works. please let me know.

Thanks Bruce

Well how much money are you willing to spend? like a civic hatch, with a gsr(b18) engine, turbo will produce some good numbers. even more if you build the engine. all depends on your price range

well i guess however much i can selll my stang for, i guess aorund anywhere form 7-10k is what i want to spend. i really like the civic hatches though. i just like reading peoples thought on these ideas, but im surprised to not be getting verymuch input :/

i'd suggest a 6th gen civic, 96-00. They have ALOT of aftermarket support and i like them better in general than 92-95 (5th gen). 01+ (7th gen) are hard engines to build and make power on (they are d17's). I suggest reading the stickies at the top of the Nitrous, Supercharger, Turbo section, they all include valuable information about turbocharging a Civic.

and like Overurhead said, it has alot to do with your budget, how much expeirence oyu have, the tools/friends you have access too, what the car is going to be used for, etc.

i have any tool i need, i have unlimited support, i have friends that have been dropping new motors with their dads since they were young kids... i have a few local guys that could help me on a daily basis. the car would deff be my dd. as for plans... i just want a big turbo. i want to keep up with an evo as said above... if not pull an evo. im a noob to turbo, but im slowly learning. all i do is read forums. so i will be a master soon enough

well on just about any stock honda motor the most you'll be able to put down is 350-400 (***** VERY VERY VERY VERY CONCIDERABLE TUNE****) and that is not guaranteed to last that long however i have seen stories of people w/ GSR motors putting 375whp down for 2+ years on stock bottom end with a VERY good tune. my suggestion would be to pick up whatever shelll you want, get a b20 block, b16, b18 or b20 head, turbo it, tune it to about 300whp and you will be wasting 450whp EVO's and STI's all day long. saw a vid of a 302whp GSR Turbo Integra pulling about 3-4 cars on a 420whp KB SC Cobra with no problem. weight is how honda's do the damage.

Yeah, with 7-10 grand. you can get a pretty damn nice civic hatch. I wish i had 7-10 grand to toy with. there is so much to learn about turboing civics, I'm about 2 months into research and there is still soooooo much i don't understand. but the search button is still my best friend. lol.

ORIGINAL: Overurhead360
Yeah, with 7-10 grand. you can get a pretty damn nice civic hatch. I wish i had 7-10 grand to toy with. there is so much to learn about turboing civics, I'm about 2 months into research and there is still soooooo much i don't understand. but the search button is still my best friend. lol.


hondas are a good place to start though. they are cheap and can be very reliable if you take care of them (well, i guess that's true w/ any car...). but w/ honda's there is just SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO much information it's freakin rediculous.
i've been doing all of my own reasearch for almost 3 years now and yes, there is a ***t ton of stuff to learn.
I started out w/ my Mitsu Eclipse and loved it but it was just soooo slow (99 GS). let me tell you this. DOO YOUR RESEARCH before you just jump into what sounds liek a good deal at the time. i bought my eclipse just because i wanted one. within 3 months i was kicking myself for not just waiting and getting a gs-t/gsx.
another thing i loved about the mitsu's is they are very simple.. there are basically only 4 engines that i ever dealth with.. 420a, 4g63 (dsm), 4g64 and 4g63 (evo). and once i jumped into the honda world... man i almost didn't even want to because it can get so intricate with parts. but i do like the fact that almost anything on honda's is interchangable.

Take your time and do your research. Just because you have the money to drop into a car doesn't mean you should drop all of it. You can generally do the same thing for a lot less money if you do your research and DIY a lot of things. IMO, the best tool for building a turbo setup is a welder. You will save yourself a ton of money by welding up the exhaust/dumptube/etc yourself.

Just take your time and do your research, I can't stress that enough. Personally, I'd rather rely on what I know rather than what a few of my "buddies" know but then again I don't trust anyone but myself and my pop lol.

ORIGINAL: SovXietday
Take your time and do your research. Just because you have the money to drop into a car doesn't mean you should drop all of it. You can generally do the same thing for a lot less money if you do your research and DIY a lot of things. IMO, the best tool for building a turbo setup is a welder. You will save yourself a ton of money by welding up the exhaust/dumptube/etc yourself.

Just take your time and do your research, I can't stress that enough. Personally, I'd rather rely on what I know rather than what a few of my "buddies" know but then again I don't trust anyone but myself and my pop lol.


AAA'MEENNNN brotha!