I am looking at kyb shocks/struts and H&R springs, will be about $500 total. Would you recommend anything else for this setup? It's a daily driver, just want something that handles better, isn't too stiff, and lowers my car some.

You may want to consider a camber kit to adjust the camber of your wheels back to stock. With a mild drop, an alignment and regular tire rotation you won't have major camber wear though.

I found skunk2 front/rear camber kit bundle. It has their best front camber kit with polyurethane bushings for $360 shipped, good deal?

Waste of money in my opinion.

If you live in an area with road salt, be prepared to have to cut/replace your rear shock bolts.

what's a waste of money, a camber kit or the kyb/h&r suspension?

camber kit is a waste of money. How much do the springs drop your car, 2 inches maybe? You'll be fine, just get an alignment. Read the "useful suspension information" sticky for more...

ya for my stech springs ruffly 2inch drop i just used 2-3 washers behind the rear upper arm which gave me pretty close to stock camber in the rear and the front wasnt really needed, only my passenger side was out of spec by like 0.1 which is nothing to worry about!

just rotate your tires regularly and it wont be any problem!

just be prepared if you do the work yourself for the rear lower control arm to be seized up... you might luck out, but chances are high youll have a problem.... wish ya luck!
but other than the springs/struts, posible strut bushing if they are seized and need to be cut, and just a alignment.

yeah, I'd recommend going to a dealership right now and getting new rear LCA bolts and new rear shock-mount bolts. Maybe even get new bushings to match those bolts (perfect opportunity to switch to polyurethane bushings maybe?)... bolts and bushings (if you get poly bushings) will be somewhere around an extra $100 I believe (but its' been a while since I lowered my car)

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yeah, I'd recommend going to a dealership right now and getting new rear LCA bolts and new rear shock-mount bolts. Maybe even get new bushings to match those bolts (perfect opportunity to switch to polyurethane bushings maybe?)... bolts and bushings (if you get poly bushings) will be somewhere around an extra $100 I believe (but its' been a while since I lowered my car)


OK I don't know how everything goes together, but if the camber kit comes with bushings, are those the same ones that go with the mount bolts? Or are they completely different?

I believe they're different (not having dealt with camber kits, I don't know exactly what they come with). But mxs is right, you don't need a camber kit. Toe is what kills your tires when you lower your car... get an alignment after you lower it and have the toe set back to factory specs and you'll be fine.

I will get an alignment, but I'm worried the negative camber will have added wear on the tires(work 4-5 days a week, there's a 4 mile dirt/gravel road to get there). If I was on a paved road I wouldn't worry about a camber kit.

honestly, you'll take a few hundred miles off the life of your tires... that's not much. I drive a 25 mile round-trip to and from work 5 days a week and usually put an additional 20-100 miles on my car over the weekend... the tread on my tires still looks fine;)

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honestly, you'll take a few hundred miles off the life of your tires... that's not much. I drive a 25 mile round-trip to and from work 5 days a week and usually put an additional 20-100 miles on my car over the weekend... the tread on my tires still looks fine;)


lol my drive is the same. I won't get it then if it's not that bad. Just looking for ways to spend money on my car I guess lol.

As long as you get all four wheels aligned, you'll be fine... and to get all four aligned should cost you somewhere around $50.

I'm warning you though... your tires will last somewhere around 3k miles if you don't get an alignment (looking at the tires, it was definitely toe wear)... learned that the hard way last summer :)

o ya! the alignment is A MUST! i put my old lowering stuff on my friends civic and he had his decent tires at the time worn down to steel belts within a few weeks, i sold him my good set of wheels and tires and AGAIN he put it off geting a alignment and again he is down to the steel belts....
luckely he found a set of cheap rims and tires that look pretty good but this time his dumb @ss got a alignment, so now they should last him awhile.LOL

try to find a alignment shop that has there rack in the ground.... otherwise buy some 2x8 boards and cut them to about 1.5 to 2 foot lengths and bring some nails and a hammer and build up a smoother ramp to get onto there rack. depending on how high there rack is depends how big ya gotta build the wooden ramp... just layer up the boards to make a ramp. i had to use 2-3layers to get my 99civic on the rack at midas lowered around 2inches but it was really close 3-4layers would have been better and my rear bumper verly cleared as well with my small exaust tip, so if youve got a big muffler hanging down definatly keep an eye on it and if you must put some more boards down to lift the back passenger wheel up enough so the muffler doesnt drag. just keep an eye on the car when they pull it in VERY SLOWLY and ensure ya dont drag anything...

but if you find a alignment shop that has a inground rack then you just pull the car in ;) ALOT EASIER. my friend found one localy and got his done abotu 50bucks. midas charges like 70-75bucks. unless ya get a coupon...