So, I'm still looking to sell my civic and buy an s13 240sx... well, I'm thinking about seeing if the guy selling this 240 (http://pittsburgh.craigslist.org/car/650017208.html) would want to trade for my civic. The thing is, the 240 needs probably about $500 worth of work to get it streetable (needs wheel bearings replaced, the rear caliper replaced, an exhaust, and an inspection). On the other hand, I have a feeling that I'm going to have a hard time finding a 240 for a reasonable price that doesn't need some work put into it.

Do you guys think it would be worth it to trade?

(Of course, this is assuming the guy I was talking to earlier with a boosted 240 doesn't want to trade for my civic... I'm waiting for his email reply)

I think there being something wrong with it just makes it easier for you to bring him down on the price a little bit. I say go for it if you like that car but be sure to look for any other problems it might have that you don't know about.

Yeah, I could definitely talk him down to $1500, especially given that he says down at the bottom fo the CL ad that he just put it into a pole at "5mph" (yeah, I know he's lying and that he was drifting and hit a pole)... the problem is getting the $1500... hopefully I can get my civic sold soon... I'm still waiting for the guy with the boosted 240 to get back to me though (hopefully he emails me in the next week)

*edit: :D:D:D found this (http://forums.nicoclub.com/zerothread/328645) bad boy... for $300, I'll take it in a heartbeat if it's still for sale... I figure, a $300 car, a $700 wide-body kit (there's rear quarter panel damage I'll have to cover up), and a $2k sr20 swap and I'll be good to go (and I'll definitely at least break even on selling the civic). I kind of doubt it's still for sale, but who knows? Maybe I'll get lucky. But Cumberland is 45 minutes away, so I can go buy the car the day after he emails me back :D

I didn't even read the post. Sell your car and get something else.

How many times are you going to change your mind about this? I mean... come on. Just get rid ofyour civicand get it over with. Seriously.

lol

240SX are pretty nice, especially to have RWD in such a small car. But don't jump at the first one you find. I bought my civic because it was a spontaneous opportunity and it caused me alot of headaches on top of being an automatic. There is always going to be another car out there that you will like, It's not a rare car and you can find a few in every small town and lots in the cities.

I have a 93 coupe I'd trade you once I got a engine in it(with in 2-3 weeks). Body is perfect, interior is also other than a small tear on the driver seat bolster. 139,000 on the car and the newer engine will have around 60k on it with a new water, oil pump, timing chain. But it is a automatic.

^ If it weren't an auto, I'd definitely be in, but tennesse is pretty far to go for an automatic 240... thanks for the offer though.

Anyways, I emailed the guy that has the 1990 hatch for $300... it's still for sale... I'm honestly considering buying it and dropping in an sr20det for $2k. I figure I can definitely get $3k out of the civic, so I'd be happy (and I'd have some money left over to make the 240 pretty).

You guys think it's worth it to buy this (http://forums.nicoclub.com/zerothread/328645)? Like I said, $300, but it seems like it has a lot of work that needs to be done. He says there's rust (as long as it's not terrible, it's not a problem), body damage (an 8-piece wide-body kit will take care of that), a power steering leak, and apparently the motor's on it's last breaths (an sr20 swap would take care of both of those issues)... you guys think I should jump on this? I can probably go down to see the car friday or saturday, and if I wanted to buy it, having $300 with me wouldn't exactly be that hard.

*edit: oh, and masonn, I'm 100% sure I'm definitely selling my civic... I have an appointment monday to take care of the wheel bearing/missing wheel stud/old brakes problems, and after that, I'll get it inspected and put a for sale sign in the window. Now it's just an issue of finding someone willing to pay at bare minimum $3k for a modded auto civic (I'm too lazy to return it to stock and sell the parts individually).

youre worse than a woman, i never sent you that pic cuzi found this thread.....But yea, change your mind once or twice a day:)

^ well here's the important question... did you finish the chop? I'm kind of curious how it looks, and I might actually end up finishing up some odds and ends on the civic (interior work, touch-ups on my work, etc), and that might be one of the things I do.

(oh, and update: the guy with the $300 240 has the title, so I think I'm going to move on it... I'll talk to my dad about finding a trailer to haul it (the guy says he's making no garantees it can make it from cumberland to my house under its own power), and I'll hopefully be able to buy it this weekend.)

i personally would just take the time and find a nice shell or a coupe/hatch. A lot of my buddies drives 240's and they fix up them cars alot. Ive always wanted one but seeing the work that they have to do to it and such, makes me not want one anymore. There is frame rust, I dont know how big of a deal that is but most 240sx owners tend to not like it. The sr20det swap is easy but the harness is a PITA to do by yourself. But its up to you.

Why a sr20det swap? a ka24de swap is well under a grand for a swap throw in a turbo kit and it hauls. Will be faster than a sr swap.

SR swaps are a bit overrated from what I have seen. A KA-T will be a tq monster plus it will hold around 300hp in stock trim as it has forged internals stock. But the only 2 "kits" I have seen are around $3000 or more(one from greddy and the other from full-race). But I can assure that you are better off from a builders standpoint starting off with a 240 vs any civic. It is RWD, has IRS, the rear ends are solid(they hold the power from a LS1/ls2 just fine), plus the car is only 2700lbs with the heavy iron KA24(a LS1/LS2 weighs the same as the 2.4 KA24).

It's all in what you want from a car I guess. I like the styling and the abilities of interchange-ability of the 240 plus it dont weigh that much and there is every bit the aftermarket support for it as there is for a civic.

I've been thinking about the ka24de-t, but finding a decent ka around here (an area with very little true interest in tuning anything that doesn't involve a 6" lift kit) will be quite the challenge. Not to mention the lower mileage jdm engine vs. finding a usdm ka24 that might have only 120k miles.

Anyway, I'm going to see if I can't find a decent running ka24 around here to swap in until I can sell my civic for the sr20 swap. And, hey... if the ka24 runs nice and strong (and the compression is good), I might end up piecing together a turbo kit for it.

You can use a KA out of any RWD Nissan from 92 to 99 or 2000 I think, I am using a 98 Nissan Frontier truck engine. The main difference in the engines are the cam profiles like the engine I am using has 224 int./224 exh. cams, the S13's with the KA24DE in them have 232/248 cams. It is actually a real popular mod to put 2 exhaust cams from a S13 into the other KA's because it will give you 7 to 12whp more across the whole rpm range plus extend the rpm range all the way to redline(7000rpm)

^ thanks, good info... I'll have to remember that.

And a little update on my 240sx progress... I'm going to check the car out next tuesday, and the guy is interested in trading it for my civic.. hopefully it'll be a straight-up trade. Anyway, if all goes well, I'll be driving a manual 240sx by next weekend (not this coming one). And this guy actually seems like he wants to sell the car... he hasn't stopped replying to my emails like some other people lol

anyway, I'll get pics of the car and keep you guys updated on tuesday :D

sell the civic and see how much you get
with that amount of $$, look around for whats avaliable. ;)
but 300 for the car then 2k engine swap and 700 dollar body kit doesnt seem too bad.

update: my dad couldn't go to see the car tonight, so we have to go tomorrow[:@] (I'll get pics tomorrow though)

Right now, I'm trying to figure out how much money I'll need to spend to get the 240 driveable... it needs a rear caliper replaced (what, like $40 for a re-built one at autozone?), exhaust (I'm thinking the muffler has a hole or something... I have a Magnaflow muffler sitting in my garage, and a DNX sitting at a friend's house), outer tie rods and wheel bearings (that's where we get into the real money), an alignment an ECU connector ($5 at a junkyard, maybe), and it needs to be inspected. I'm figuring in the range of $500-$600 (and a ton of spare time lol) to get it ready to be my new DD.

* (edit) new update:

So my dad decided I'm not allowed buying the 240sx, nor am I allowed trading my civic for it (which I'll admit was probably a bad trade, but still... I'd like a rwd 5-speed that gets more than 2mpg and actually looks good). Instead, they offered me a deal (which pissed me off even more).... they'll give me the $4k they were going to give me for my next car (which means I'll probably have to get an '01+ with >100k miles), and I'll get to spend whatever I think I'll be able to sell my civic for (I'm thinking at least $2500). So my new budget is now $6500, which still does me no good since apparently any vehicle more than 7 years old with more than 100k miles on the clock is automatically a f**king piece of s**t that will absolutely break down within the first hundred miles... which makes me wonder why my 14-year-old 108k mile POS is still running and hasn't fallen apart, because we all know that my mom knows everything there is to know about cars and the reliability of cars she's never heard of. So I might be able to talk them into an s14, but I'd still have to find one around here (s13's are hard to come by around here, I'm sure s14's in half-decent condition are like the f**king holy grail)

Dude i say keep the civic, s13 and s14 are nice but hard to find in nice condition and common everywhere, Especially the drift scene or like here in houston thats the reason why i picked up an ae86 instead.

^ nah, civic's an auto, and I don't have $1,000 sitting around to throw iat a 5-speed swap. And there's no way I'm driving an auto anymore... I put up with the d**m thing for almost three years now, I'm tired of it. I'd just get another 5th gen civic, but my mom wants me to get a "more reliable" car (like my f**king civic isn't reliable?)... because apparently imports aren't reliable. Actually, the reliability thing is the reason I'm not allowed getting a $500 s13 rolling chassis and dropping in a $2000 s13 sr20... apparently there's no way a car & engine that cheap will be reliable.

So I was looking at getting a 2g Eclipse gsx (if I'm getting another car, I'd like it to be awd or rwd), but there's really none around here with the exception of a '97 with 107k miles that some douche is trying to sell for $11k because it's "a rare car"... so the gsx is out of the question, so now I'm looking at an '01 v6 mustang (going to look at it thursday). Hopefully I get it....

but here's what pisses me off... apparently I'm not allowed modifying whatever car I get... which is f**king rediculous... I mean, I can understand the whole "I'm going to be going back to school this september so I shouldn't be wasting money" thing (it's not like wyotech's even expensive in the first place), but come on... I hate stock cars! Well, stock cars that I can afford anyway... if we were talking about something like an M3, I'd be perfectly happy to leave the thing stock... but a v6 mustang? A stock 5-speed civic will be able to keep up (no offense)! Not to mention I've fallen in love with the Roush stage 2 body kit with side-exit dual exhaust *drools*.

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If I do get the mustang (looking likely since it's an '01 and only has 57k miles, so naturally my parents approve), here's what I want to do:
-lowering springs (3" drop if I can find any... the things have like 7" of wheel gap stock)
-Roush stage 2 body kit
-Roush SM01 exhaust
-Sequential taillights (look it up on youtube if you don't know what they are.... they're effin' sick)
-Saleen-style 18x9/18x10 wheels
-K&N filter with silencer box removed (same performance gains as a CAI)
-headers (not sure what brand yet)

that's pretty much it... I want to keep it near stock (well, my version of "near-stock") and not spend too much money on it since I plan on getting an s13 hatch after getting out of school. Looks like I'll be sneaking those mods onto the car while I'm at school and hoping my parents don't notice when I come to visit lol "What's that mom? Oh, yeah... the exhaust has always been in front of the back wheels and loud as hell... where have you been?" :D

But I'm definitely getting the sequential tails... those things kick so much a** it isn't funny. And I don't think my parents would really be paying attention to what my brake lights are doing

haha those sequential taillights are pretty cool, and the roush stage 2 bodykit spells all types of a** whoopins lol.
The Mustang is a Nice Choice though V8 or V6 both are nice to me but the Eclipse in general arent very reliable gs gsx rs etc.