wondering if any of you chaps have any knowledge as to what tires can be stretched how far. im looking at a set of 17x8 XXR's (THESE (http://www.nlmotoring.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=00678089&click=2)) and want to know if my current ventus tires would fit if stretched since they're close to brand new. they're 205/40R17. inner clearance shouldnt be an issue since theresa +35 offset and outter clearance will be good too since ill be rolling, or need be flaring, the fenders. we also have a cheetah bead seater at work or else i can use the old brake cleaner bomb trick to puff them out. so, anyone have experience with stretching tires?
KarTuneMan
04-29-2008, 08:49 AM
Buy wheels that fit the car. A +35 offset is not the proper fit on any civic.
Your gonna be a guy asking about what to do about all the rubbing.
17x8..... ?
88civ
04-29-2008, 11:18 AM
I have seen tons of guys with 185s on 7 inch wide wheels... I dont see why 205 shouldnt work with 8. But I hope you like that stretch look, cause they will be.
ej6buddy
04-29-2008, 02:07 PM
i do not recommend that setup for a stock civic. just pay up and get the right sized wheels/tires.
civicexracer
04-29-2008, 02:20 PM
dunno much about stretching tires. dont think it'd look good at all on a civic, let alone 17's on a civic for that matter. just IMO.
ORIGINAL: KarTuneMan
Buy wheels that fit the car. A +35 offset is not the proper fit on any civic.
Your gonna be a guy asking about what to do about all the rubbing.
17x8..... ?
im running +35 offset with no camber kit, none of the fenders have been rolled, probably lower than some ppl andpushing the car to its limits very often. never have i had a rubbing issue or any other issue with the wheels/tires for that matter. BUT these are on 15x6.5 wheels with 195/50R15 tires.
reaper2022
04-29-2008, 02:22 PM
kartune and ej6, you guys have never heard of aggressive fitments, have you? :D
If mossy is rolling/flaring the fenders, a low offset is best, especially given an 8" wide wheel... too high of an offset with too wide of a wheel will result in the tire rubbing on the inside of the wheel well (I have nice little marks on the inside of my wheel wells from my 7" wide wheels with +45mm offsets)
ej6buddy
04-29-2008, 05:03 PM
ORIGINAL: reaper2022
kartune and ej6, you guys have never heard of aggressive fitments, have you? :D
yes, i've heard of it, and yes, i know what it is, and yes, i still stick to my original statement. 17x8 is possible, but never recommended.
SITNLOW97
04-29-2008, 05:10 PM
They will not fit.. a 7.5 wide is pushing it to an extreme cause i had that oin my mini truck..but it will not work on a 8' wide will trust me...and why the hell would u put a 8' wide wheel on a civic in the first place idk...
KarTuneMan
04-30-2008, 09:53 PM
A 17x8 with a +35 will not fit. Test it, you will see. This is not an aggresive fit. It's an improper one. A "misapplication."
Mossy
05-01-2008, 07:45 AM
ORIGINAL: ej6buddy
i do not recommend that setup for a stock civic. just pay up and get the right sized wheels/tires.
there isnt much stock anything left on the car homie. also, im in the middle of a $3000 engine build so its not a matter of me being a cheapass and not wanting to buy new tires. i WANT the stretched look with a little wheel poke. make fun of me if you will for being a litle german but i like the look.
what if i were to add a 5-10mm spacer to crank up the offset if there wasnt enough inner clearance? this really isnt a practical application and i understand that. this is just style preferance for cruising, im buying a set of 15's with falkens for track days in a couple months.
ej6buddy
05-01-2008, 10:41 AM
ORIGINAL: Mossy
ORIGINAL: ej6buddy
i do not recommend that setup for a stock civic. just pay up and get the right sized wheels/tires.
there isnt much stock anything left on the car homie. also, im in the middle of a $3000 engine build so its not a matter of me being a cheapass and not wanting to buy new tires. i WANT the stretched look with a little wheel poke. make fun of me if you will for being a litle german but i like the look.
what if i were to add a 5-10mm spacer to crank up the offset if there wasnt enough inner clearance? this really isnt a practical application and i understand that. this is just style preferance for cruising, im buying a set of 15's with falkens for track days in a couple months.
engine modifications have absolutely nothing to do with the geometry of your suspension. you need to modify your wheel wells and definitely upgrade your brakes if you want a little safety. plus that would be a good bit of stress be applied to your suspension with 17x8's and heavy tires plus huge spacers. and i wouldn't recommend lowering your car unless you have very flared fenders front and back.
p.s. i'm also part german, but that doesn't mean all germans like the stretched look. and if i wanted my car to look german, i'd just buy a german made car.
i'm not trying to come off as an ass, i'm just trying to tell you the best solution.
Mossy
05-01-2008, 03:10 PM
yes, i realize it has nothing to do with the engine. i just said that because you made a comment about me paying up to buy the riht tires. money isnt an issue. and as a matter of fact i have 12.1" brakes and ebc greenstuff pads on order. it will put stress on my suspension i realize, but im riding a very tough coilover setup as it is. and if you had read the beginning of my post you would have seen that im rolling my fenders and if need be flaring them. im no beginer with modding.
ej6buddy
05-01-2008, 07:01 PM
ORIGINAL: Mossy
yes, i realize it has nothing to do with the engine. i just said that because you made a comment about me paying up to buy the riht tires. money isnt an issue. and as a matter of fact i have 12.1" brakes and ebc greenstuff pads on order. it will put stress on my suspension i realize, but im riding a very tough coilover setup as it is. and if you had read the beginning of my post you would have seen that im rolling my fenders and if need be flaring them. im no beginer with modding.
i know, didn't say you didn't know anything, it's just that people come onto this site asking if something they already have will fit just so they don't have to spend any money when it clearly doesn't fit. plus i hate it when people run tires that stick a half a foot past their fenders. for some reason all the hispanics here love that look, i just think it looks cheap and retarded. ask someone if they could photochop 17x8's with stretched tires just to make sure that's what you want.
Mossy
05-01-2008, 07:39 PM
well we put it up on the lift today to do some measuring in the wheel wells and determining offset so that clearance is good and wont rub, and also so that it wont be popping way out the side chicano style. ill need about a +55 offset to be clear of everything and for the edge of the rim to juuuuuuust barely poke out from the body but still have the tire tuck nicely. i look at it as this; if i succeed then ive got something different from 99% of civics, but if i fail then i sell the wheels on craigslist for $350 and buy the 17x7 of that wheel like a sensible person