So i bought this http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_8869_--+CLOSEOUT--+--+Kenwood+eXcelon+KDC-X591.html


I filld out that car info, for the FREE Installation Mounting Kit and Wiring Harness . Becuase i have keyless entry, kenwood makes a special harness for the keyless entry and it will cost me $33! I said no, just send what i orderd... So who knows what im geting when it gets here!!!

I think i read somewhere, to keep my keyless entry i need the stock radio. or is this for the alarm? I ALSO HAVE THE HONDA ALARM.

sO IM HOPEING YOU GUY'S CAN HELP ME. aLL I KNOW IS IM GETING THAT HAED UNIT, AND I DONT KNOW IF IM GETING A HARNESS.

i FEEL SICK.....bUT THE GIRL FROM SONIC ELECTRONIX,THAT CALLD ME SOUNDED HOT!LOL

I believe honda stopped using the radio for the keyless entry after the 98 or 99 models.
So if you do take out the stock radio completely, yes you will lose your keyless entry. (By the way this has already been discussed, use the search next time)
SO basically, you need the stock radio in your car to keep keyless entry. Most people, from what I ahve heard, just tuck it down under the glove box or back behind the aftermarket radio so they can keep their Keyless. You only need to run power wires to it so that your trasmitter/receiver for the keyless will still be there for ya.

Hey ya go
http://www.hondacivicforum.com/m_101654/tm.htm

AAAAA!! f the keyless, i dont need it!!! i hope they send me a harness!!

ORIGINAL: macbeth18288

Hey ya go
http://www.hondacivicforum.com/m_101654/tm.htm


Why would they give me a harness if the keyless is in the stock radio? What im asking is, are they sending me a harness?? Just not that 33$ one???????

Am i going to be a bul to hook it up when i get it, or what!??

she was probably tryign to sell you this

http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_12468_Metra+70-1720t.html

and without that you'll ahve to cut off your factory harness, which i'd advise against.


you'll also need one of these

http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_1732_American+International+CFI-K509.html

to make the deck fit in your dash

ORIGINAL: T3rry

she was probably tryign to sell you this

http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_12468_Metra+70-1720t.html

and without that you'll ahve to cut off your factory harness, which i'd advise against.


you'll also need one of these

http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_1732_American+International+CFI-K509.html

to make the deck fit in your dash



i dont see my car or car year in this link
http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_1732_American+International+CFI-K509.html

And i ask if this unit will fit and people said yes.. im confused.

Will i still be geting a harness(they better send me one), that just does the hook up, and not the keyless??? I should of not put keyless entry!!

you'll get a harness for the deck, but probably not a factory harness from your factory plug.

When i look at my order, they added this for free.


https://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_4508_Scosche+HA1570B+-+HA1570.html

thtas all it shows and it just got sent to ups. no harness.:((((()

so you just got the dash it, that's it... dont worry about it, you can get the harness at any place that installs car audio.

like walmart? will i get a cheak engine light if i get a harness that dosint have a thing for keyless entry? I want to lose the keyless, if i can get a cheaper harness. Im not buying one from sonic, it will be $16 for shipping..

Will this work and do they sell it at walmart? http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_1781_American+International+HWH-804.html

I ordered a replacement head unit from Crutchfield, and I said that I didn't have keyless because I am ripping the factory radio out and tossing it due to all the nightmares it has caused!

One thing you can do is see if they make a master harness for your particular head unit. They are more expensive, but are plug-n-play! Circuit City and a few other places sell them.

ETA: Something like this: http://www.circuitcity.com/ssm/Metra-1986-98-Honda-Acura-Vehicle-Wiring-Harness-801720/sem/rpsm/oid/41011/rpem/ccd/productDetail.do

ETA2: You would also need this if you went the master harness route: http://www.audio-discounters.com/kn16-0001.html

Personally, I only used one ONCE and it ended up being a buttload of wire to have to hide behind the dash in a 90s Dodge Dakota. The only reason I went with it was due to the fact that it was the only thing I could find on a Sunday afternoon.

ORIGINAL: gunz4me

I ordered a replacement head unit from Crutchfield, and I said that I didn't have keyless because I am ripping the factory radio out and tossing it due to all the nightmares it has caused!

One thing you can do is see if they make a master harness for your particular head unit. They are more expensive, but are plug-n-play! Circuit City and a few other places sell them.

ETA: Something like this: http://www.circuitcity.com/ssm/Metra-1986-98-Honda-Acura-Vehicle-Wiring-Harness-801720/sem/rpsm/oid/41011/rpem/ccd/productDetail.do

ETA2: You would also need this if you went the master harness route: http://www.audio-discounters.com/kn16-0001.html

Personally, I only used one ONCE and it ended up being a buttload of wire to have to hide behind the dash in a 90s Dodge Dakota. The only reason I went with it was due to the fact that it was the only thing I could find on a Sunday afternoon.



Thanks for the city link, i learn that
Two wiring harnesses are required to complete the installation-the vehicle wiring harness and the radio wiring harness. Make sure you have both before you start the installation.

So do i need to buy two? well i know know that i should of said yes to the $33, because now im spending alot more wtf!

so, i gess ill just see what they send me, it says it will be here on the 13th.....

If you want to go the master harness route you usually need two! Every now and again you can run across a master harness that has your vehicle plug on one end and a direct plug for your aftermarket radio on the other end.

You can go the one harness route, but you will need to solder and heatshrink the wires to the aftermarket radio yourself.

Alternative 3 (which I do NOT recommend) is that you can cut the factory plug and wire directly to your aftermarket radio. The reason I do not recommend this is because it is a royal pain to work in certain dashboards after you clip the factory harness and if you ever have to change your radio again it really sucks.

ORIGINAL: gunz4me

If you want to go the master harness route you usually need two! Every now and again you can run across a master harness that has your vehicle plug on one end and a direct plug for your aftermarket radio on the other end.




i dont have a solder, so ill pay for the first option. MASTER HARNESS ROUTE. Where can i get one? And how do i know if the plug will fit into my after market head unit?

Can i you find it all in here in here? i think you posted it, but with to diffrent plases
http://www.sonicelectronix.com/cat_i547_honda.html

Aslo i want to take out the tape deck. Will my car look stupid with an empty space down there? i want to remove it because i dont use it and i want to run my ipod cord through the empty space. And probly use it as astorage for my ipod and the cord.Any tips on what i can do?

I don't see the master harness available in that link you provided. Since you don't have access to a solder gun, your next best bet is to get a cheap crimp set and use butt connectors to join your wires together, then consider using electrical tape over the individual connections. Personally, I hate going that route because it seems that one crimp connector will always fail over time, and it is usually the one that causes the most problems (i.e. remote turnon shorts out or every light blows in the dashboard). I used to "fix" professional installs that used crimp connections and failed before I started my career.

As for the Tape Deck, I am planning on leaving mine in there because I thought I had a spare din pocket laying around, and come to find out I think I tossed the dang thing. Also, my cupholder lid is broken and won't close, so I don't really see much of the tape deck. Lastly, I am planning on either routing my iPod cable to the glove box or console to keep it out of sight. But in your case, if you can find a local shop that will sell you a din pocket, you can drill a place for the iPod wire to run through and put some anti slip mat in there to keep it (your iPod) in place.

Oh the bliss and excitment of purchasing electronics on line to save a dollar.

ORIGINAL: KarTuneMan

Oh the bliss and excitment of purchasing electronics on line to save a dollar.


Saving a dollar can be done, as long as the hidden costs are factored in! In my Mustang, I replaced the speakers and head unit for 50% of what a local shop would have charged! As for my Civic, I am going to save about $150 by installing my alarm myself plus I saved another $100 by ordering my radio versus purchasing it locally. Sure, it takes my time to do it, but I am going to be arrogant and say at least I know it was done because I did it! The last time I was lazy and paid for a professional install, it cost me roughly $500 to replace an electrical component that they fried. I was eventually reimbursed for it by the vendor, but I was so pissed that I had to pay first and threaten to sue to get reimbursed!

mmmmm.


So if i buy 2 of these
http://www.circuitcity.com/ssm/Metra-1986-98-Honda-Acura-Vehicle-Wiring-Harness-801720/sem/rpsm/oid/41011/rpem/ccd/productDetail.do
One plugs into the stock plug, and the other will plug into my kenwood radio? Why does it say, No bare wires to join and solder--just plug it in? I thought the ends have to be twisted togather? And what are the 2 other wiers next to it for?



And what is this for? http://www.audio-discounters.com/kn16-0001.html
an does this audio plase sell the item adove, so i can buy it all in one place?


This s my first time doing somthing like this.....

i found this, http://cgi.ebay.com/1986-98-HONDA-ACURA-ISUZU-WIRE-WIRING-HARNESS-PLUG_W0QQitemZ380024965821QQihZ025QQcategoryZ64579 QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

But i have a 96 civic with a f in alarm!!! this loks like the one from circuit city....


And is this what you posted for the other link? It looks diffrent than the one you posted in the link. but iput itinto the ebay search and found this..
http://cgi.ebay.com/KENWOOD-16-PIN-CAR-STEREO-RADIO-WIRING-WIRE-HARNESS-MP3_W0QQitemZ320249189254QQihZ011QQcategoryZ32812Q QssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem


hhhhhh

What is this? it has diffrent stuff, and plugs at each end..

http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-METRA-Wire-Harness-for-Honda-Vehicles-Wire-Har_W0QQitemZ180240114070QQihZ008QQcategoryZ50552Q QssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

that one is for retaining your stock stereo, on end will plug in to the wire harness in your car the other end will plug in to your stock deck, then you use the loose wires to wire to your aftermarket deck... it's not plug n play, but it will retain your keyless entry n stuff.


it's likely that this is what sonix was trying to sell you.

ORIGINAL: enigma34

What is this? it has diffrent stuff, and plugs at each end..

http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-METRA-Wire-Harness-for-Honda-Vehicles-Wire-Har_W0QQitemZ180240114070QQihZ008QQcategoryZ50552Q QssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

If know one can find me a plug n play.

Im starting to get less confused

Im thinking of going out and buying a crimp set. But if i buy a harness for my stock stuff, does my haed unit come with a harness or do i have to buy one for it? And if i have to buy one for it, what will work?


I dont want to retain my keyless and alarm. Will i get a check engine light for not using a harness that retains them? I just want a harness to plug into the stock plug and a harness for the new unit, then ill just crimp color to color, and im good to go..

I aslo orderd an amp and sub, it comes with the wier ket. but im not shore what i have to connect to the head unit, i know i have to hook up one wire to the battery, then on the other side of the car, i lead the other wire to the head unit. Is it easy to hook up?

And is the amp just for the sub, or am i supposed to hook up my speakers to it also? i just want to hook up my amp to the sub so it gets all the juice, can i do that?

ORIGINAL: enigma34
I dont want to retain my keyless and alarm. Will i get a check engine light for not using a harness that retains them? I just want a harness to plug into the stock plug and a harness for the new unit, then ill just crimp color to color, and im good to go..


You will lose your domelight when you pull the factory deck out! From the green plugin harness on the back of your factory radio, find the light green wire w/ black stripe and the light green wire w/ red stripe. You are going to have to connect these together for your domelight to work.

ORIGINAL: enigma34
I aslo orderd an amp and sub, it comes with the wier ket. but im not shore what i have to connect to the head unit, i know i have to hook up one wire to the battery, then on the other side of the car, i lead the other wire to the head unit. Is it easy to hook up?

And is the amp just for the sub, or am i supposed to hook up my speakers to it also? i just want to hook up my amp to the sub so it gets all the juice, can i do that?

Use the amp for your Sub only! If you want to power your other speakers, get another amp...

if you have never even installed a head unit before, i really suggest you take this to a shop for the install for a full system.

ORIGINAL: gunz4me

ORIGINAL: enigma34
I dont want to retain my keyless and alarm. Will i get a check engine light for not using a harness that retains them? I just want a harness to plug into the stock plug and a harness for the new unit, then ill just crimp color to color, and im good to go..


You will lose your domelight when you pull the factory deck out! From the green plugin harness on the back of your factory radio, find the light green wire w/ black stripe and the light green wire w/ red stripe. You are going to have to connect these together for your domelight to work.

ORIGINAL: enigma34
I aslo orderd an amp and sub, it comes with the wier ket. but im not shore what i have to connect to the head unit, i know i have to hook up one wire to the battery, then on the other side of the car, i lead the other wire to the head unit. Is it easy to hook up?

And is the amp just for the sub, or am i supposed to hook up my speakers to it also? i just want to hook up my amp to the sub so it gets all the juice, can i do that?

Use the amp for your Sub only! If you want to power your other speakers, get another amp...



Whats a dome light.and i would look back there but i need to remove some stuff, i cant pull it out? i have a step by step to removing it, and i watch a video on clutchfield, and it look so easy to put a new one in!. Im not going to start riping it all a part untill i get all my stuff in the mail.

So if i keep my radio in i will not have to do that dome light?

I google dome light, is it just the lighting for your radio?

your dome light is the interior light on your ceiling.

ORIGINAL: T3rry

your dome light is the interior light on your ceiling.


oooo. Do i have to keep the stock radio to have it work?

so, im going to buy this http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&it em=180240114070#ebayphotohosting

Now what do i have to buy for the head unit?

And where can i get a cheap crimp set?

No you just need to splice the two wires on the radio plug and the dome light will work again without the stock radio.

ill be on lattter, its a nice day. taking the street bike out :)

iv ask this a lot: Does any one know if i dont keep my stock radio in, will it turn on my check engine light?! Because i dont have alarm and what not.

how come this will not work, because i have an alarm?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&it em=380024965821

OK people.

1. First im going to see what they ship to me, it only said i got the dash kit and not the harness for the kenwood unit. i get my order on the 13th

2. I need an anser about my check engine light.

3. Even though i have an alarm and keyless entry will this work-- http://cgi.ebay.com/1996-1997-1998-Honda-Civic-Radio-Wiring-Harness-Adapter_W0QQitemZ200216921366QQihZ010QQcategoryZ50 552QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem


4. if #3 works, when i get my stuff in the mail, and i dont get the kenwood harness, Im going to buy

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&it em=370048657033
and
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&it em=200216921366



I realy want to know about the check engine light?

I don't think losing the stock radio will affect anything other than the dome light, alarm, and keyless entry. You can test it though, simply unplug the stock radio now and drive around some without it connected, and see if the rest of the car does OK.

ORIGINAL: mk378

I don't think losing the stock radio will affect anything other than the dome light, alarm, and keyless entry. You can test it though, simply unplug the stock radio now and drive around some without it connected, and see if the rest of the car does OK.


Ok, thanks ill give itatry!

Ok, so i have taken out my stock radio.

i HAVE 5 typs ofwires,

1. is for the antena

2. is this plug that looks like a headphones jack? i think its for the 6 cd changer.

Now i have 3 plugs wrapped together in a black tube. two green plugs and a white plug.

A short green one was pluged into the radio also, but i dont know what it is?

The longer green plug, plugs into the HONDA SECURITY MODULE, that is screwd on the stock radio.

and the long wite plug, im gessing is what the aftermarketharness will plug into?

a picture says 1000 words... seriously, that post si so confusing it makes no sense at all.

ORIGINAL: T3rry

a picture says 1000 words... seriously, that post si so confusing it makes no sense at all.


ok i go take picture, stay online!

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ORIGINAL: enigma34

Ok, so i have taken out my stock radio.

i HAVE 5 typs ofwires,

1. is for the antena

Yep
ORIGINAL: enigma34
2. is this plug that looks like a headphones jack? i think its for the 6 cd changer.

That is a DIN plug that works with Alpine M-Bus products and/or the factory tape deck. So yep!

ORIGINAL: enigma34
Now i have 3 plugs wrapped together in a black tube. two green plugs and a white plug.

A short green one was pluged into the radio also, but i dont know what it is?

The longer green plug, plugs into the HONDA SECURITY MODULE, that is screwd on the stock radio.

and the long wite plug, im gessing is what the aftermarketharness will plug into?



The white one should be the only one you will need since you are trashing your factory head unit! The green plugs are for the security system and the factory keyless, which you said you were going to deep 6 anyhow. Do you want me to post a pic of my harness that will plug into the factory white harness? It is already soldered, heat shrunk, and taped. It doesn't look pretty, but you will give you an idea...

ETA: So that is where I can expect to find the alarm when I yank the factory radio out of my late wife's 1997 Civic EX and THAT is what they charged over $350 for her to put in the car? Good grief, there is NO WAY that was worth $175 for the alarm unit and $175 to install.....

ORIGINAL: gunz4me

ORIGINAL: enigma34

Ok, so i have taken out my stock radio.

i HAVE 5 typs ofwires,

1. is for the antena

Yep
ORIGINAL: enigma34
2. is this plug that looks like a headphones jack? i think its for the 6 cd changer.

That is a DIN plug that works with Alpine M-Bus products and/or the factory tape deck. So yep!

ORIGINAL: enigma34
Now i have 3 plugs wrapped together in a black tube. two green plugs and a white plug.

A short green one was pluged into the radio also, but i dont know what it is?

The longer green plug, plugs into the HONDA SECURITY MODULE, that is screwd on the stock radio.

and the long wite plug, im gessing is what the aftermarketharness will plug into?



The white one should be the only one you will need since you are trashing your factory head unit! The green plugs are for the security system and the factory keyless, which you said you were going to deep 6 anyhow. Do you want me to post a pic of my harness that will plug into the factory white harness? It is already soldered, heat shrunk, and taped. It doesn't look pretty, but you will give you an idea...

ETA: So that is where I can expect to find the alarm when I yank the factory radio out of my late wife's 1997 Civic EX and THAT is what they charged over $350 for her to put in the car? Good grief, there is NO WAY that was worth $175 for the alarm unit and $175 to install.....



Thanks
Naaa, you dont need to post a pic. But im not going to buy a solder,im just going to buy a crimp set.

Do you know how to remove the tape deck? im having a tuff time with it!

Yeah, you have to remove the whole friggin console to get the tape deck out! After the console is out, there should be 4 bolts (two on each side) holding the tape deck in.

ETA: Crimps done properly will work just fine for installing your radio. I prefer solder because it works better on boats whereas crimp on connectors just corrode and break when exposed to the elements and salt water.

ETA2: I am one of those uber anal "overkill" people. My connection will outlast the item it is connecting in 99% of the cases!

ORIGINAL: gunz4me

Yeah, you have to remove the whole friggin console to get the tape deck out! After the console is out, there should be 4 bolts (two on each side) holding the tape deck in.




The console, is the plastic all a round the shifter?

The console as in first you pull the arm rest section, then you remove the plastic around the shifter. I think you just need to remove 8 screws, but be REAL careful when pulling.

ETA: I think you may need to remove your shifter knob too.... I don't remember if the plastic will clear the shifter or not...

ORIGINAL: gunz4me

The console as in first you pull the arm rest section, then you remove the plastic around the shifter. I think you just need to remove 8 screws, but be REAL careful when pulling.

ETA: I think you may need to remove your shifter knob too.... I don't remember if the plastic will clear the shifter or not...



THANKS, i got it out.

Therewas a cablethat was leading under my carpet, it conected to the tape deck, and the wire coming out of the tape deck ran up to the radio. I thought this was the antenna cable? Know, that i disconected the tape player, i dont think this cable that was coming out of my rug from the arm rest, That plugged into my tape deck,will reach my new radio...


Where is the input for the antenna? Is it that long black cord all the way to the left? Or is it that input to the right of the two red RCA plugs?
http://www.sonicelectronix.com/pictures.php?id=8869


Also the cord all the way to the right, what is that for? my stock radio did not have it, where do i plug it in?

ORIGINAL: enigma34

ORIGINAL: gunz4me

The console as in first you pull the arm rest section, then you remove the plastic around the shifter. I think you just need to remove 8 screws, but be REAL careful when pulling.

ETA: I think you may need to remove your shifter knob too.... I don't remember if the plastic will clear the shifter or not...



THANKS, i got it out.

Therewas a cablethat was leading under my carpet, it conected to the tape deck, and the wire coming out of the tape deck ran up to the radio. I thought this was the antenna cable? Know, that i disconected the tape player, i dont think this cable that was coming out of my rug from the arm rest, That plugged into my tape deck,will reach my new radio...


Where is the input for the antenna? Is it that long black cord all the way to the left? Or is it that input to the right of the two red RCA plugs?
http://www.sonicelectronix.com/pictures.php?id=8869


Also the cord all the way to the right, what is that for? my stock radio did not have it, where do i plug it in?


All the way to the left should be your antenna. As for the plug all the way to the right, I think that is a USB cable.

I will let you in on something I learned the hard way! Just be glad you are not installing an alarm right now like I chose to do. My radio has been ready to be installed, but I am about 4 hours into my alarm, and probably will take all day tomorrow to work on it!

o alarms are not that hard to instal.LOL
takes time but a good wiring diagram can take off hours of work!

but then again ive instaled quite a few alarms so i kinda got it down.....

Do i have to remove the rear seat and all that fun stuff, to remove the rear speakers? I have a 96 2/dr.

well not a MUST but it definatly helps!

first get under the rear deck and with some pliers or something squize the large white clips and push them up so they clear the hole kinda...

then you could try to man handle it out after poping the rear side panels loose and fold the seat down but its a PITA! but its definatly alot easier if you remove the rear seat, the side panels and i cannt remember if the top side panels need to come off as well... cannt remember then the rear deck trim can come off and you can see your speakers... i would recomend either replace them with some nice speakers that way you shouldnt have to go thru all that again to swap them out. BUT if you do kinda cheap it out then i would say mount them from the bottom of the rear deck so next time you can just remove them from inside the trunk.

ORIGINAL: addiction2bass

well not a MUST but it definatly helps!

first get under the rear deck and with some pliers or something squize the large white clips and push them up so they clear the hole kinda...

then you could try to man handle it out after poping the rear side panels loose and fold the seat down but its a PITA! but its definatly alot easier if you remove the rear seat, the side panels and i cannt remember if the top side panels need to come off as well... cannt remember then the rear deck trim can come off and you can see your speakers... i would recomend either replace them with some nice speakers that way you shouldnt have to go thru all that again to swap them out. BUT if you do kinda cheap it out then i would say mount them from the bottom of the rear deck so next time you can just remove them from inside the trunk.




I'mm replaceing them with JL audio,http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_1603_JL+Audio+TR690-TXi.html


Is this all i need to do the job?
http://lonewolf-online.net/cars/honda/how_to_replace_rear_speakers/

ORIGINAL: addiction2bass

o alarms are not that hard to instal.LOL
takes time but a good wiring diagram can take off hours of work!

but then again ive instaled quite a few alarms so i kinda got it down.....



It is not hard, just takes me a long time because of my being anal about soldering all my connections and putting the brain in the hardest to get to place....

ya that looks like the proper way to swap the speakers out







and ya.. that takes alot more time all that soldering and such........

IMO its not worth securing my alarms all hidden at least for me..... hell FULL COVERAGE INSURANCE is my most security system, plus if anyone wants my car bad enough they will get it...
my alarm is mainly for keyless entry and remote start... and alittle deterant for the ammature smash and grabers... only thing i would like to get for my alarm system now is auto trunk poper, and a tilt sensor to protect my wheels alittle. not to concerned about it really. my main security is its parked in the garage at nights.

I got the rear speakers out! it wasint that hard, only about an hour to take evrything out.


Know the only thing i need to find out is, how to run that amp cable to the battery. I think the hole is on the driver side, i havint mess with it but it looks to be realy tuff to rip it open:(!!But i dont want to wreck anything...

ya dont rip it.LOL just use a small razor blade to make a slit in the open part of it and push the wire thru. you dont want a huge hole...

also IMO it looks better if you pull the battery, and battery tray and use the wire gromet that goes kinda straight down to get the wire inside the car... it keeps the engine bay looking nice a clean! alittle more work BUT IMO WELL WORTH IT!!!! plus you save ruffly 4ft of wire if you ran it to the drivers side and then back.. ;)

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also IMO it looks better if you pull the battery, and battery tray and use the wire gromet that goes kinda straight down to get the wire inside the car... it keeps the engine bay looking nice a clean! alittle more work BUT IMO WELL WORTH IT!!!! plus you save ruffly 4ft of wire if you ran it to the drivers side and then back.. ;)



lol. i realy dont understand what your saying or how to do it, and what a gromet is? But ill lo0k around.

a gromet is a soft rubber piece that is on the firewall of the car... the one on the drivers side i think it has a unused gromet. others have wires that go thru the center of the rubber gromet. you can simply make a small slit in the gromet to the side of the wires ruffly 1/2inch or so away from the wires just to ensure you dont cut any wires. just make a small slit in the rubber and force the new power wire thru it so its kinda tight fit. otherwise if ya cut to much or just want to be sure its water tight you need to use some kinda silicone or sealer to make it water tight...

So, i wired my harness to the kenwood harness for the radio. i just used alot of electrical tape. I have to wires on the kenwood harness that are not on the other harness.

One is blue and white, with a strip of tape on it that say's (P.CONT)

The other one is brown, with a strip of tape saying( MUTE).



Im, not shore about the dome light, i may just not hook it up..

ya blue/white wire is either for power antena or amplifier turn on....

brown. just unused..... thats for some old @ss incar phones.LOL

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ya blue/white wire is either for power antena or amplifier turn on....

brown. just unused..... thats for some old @ss incar phones.LOL



Im geting my amp today. Where do i have to put that blue/white?

My kenwood manual siad what it was, b ut i dont have it on me.

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ya blue/white wire is either for power antena or amplifier turn on....

brown. just unused..... thats for some old @ss incar phones.LOL



Im geting my amp today. Where do i have to put that blue/white?

My kenwood manual siad what it was, b ut i dont have it on me.


That Blue/White wire is your power control wire and you need to connect it to the remote turn on input on your power amplifier.

the blue wire you have to run the whole wire to the trunk where your amplifier is....

some RCA cables have a built in remote wire between them but not all of them... if they dont then just buy some wire thats long enough to run from the deck to the trunk.... but if you bought a amplifier instal kit then it should have came with enough blue wire to run it then.....

My friend told me aneasy way torun my amp cable to the battery.but....Its on the passenger side, i can run itup thedoor frame, and under the side of the hood. it will be like out side, the car. is it ok to run it like that? will it be ok if it rains, water may touch it, but i could just wrap the hell ouy if it with tape.


This is the wire kit ill be geting.
http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_3522_Visonik+VB212PKG+DUAL+Subs+Amplified+Sys tem.html#

you can run the wires how ever you want.... BUT ONLY IF PROPERLY FUSED!

and yes the amplifier kit does come with the blue wires to extend to the trunk/amplifier.
youll have to pull the radio back out anyways to hook up the RCA wires and the remote turn on wire so no big deal... just be sure you got the right blue wire off the radio... i know a few radios ive had in the past used 2 blue wires.... one solid blue and one blue with white strip... one was used for amplifier turn ON and the other was used for power antena. it has the power turned off to it when you have a cd.



but just as long as you have your amplifier wire fused right next to the battery then you shouldnt have any serious problems... but its still a posiblity of you closing the door and the wire geting caught between the hinges and shorting out... but as long as you have the wired fused it will only pop the fuse and give you time to find the problem.... if it wasnt fused next to the battery then you would have a fireball which would no doubt destroy your car!!!!!!! but IMO just do what i said and remote the battery and battery mount/tray and run the wire thru the factory gromet with the wires being used already... as long as you make a small razor blade cut about 1/2-1inch away from the wires youll be fine.... and clear the wires make the cut towards the middle of the car on the gromet because i believe the wires run towards the passenger kick panel under the dash.
it will look a hell of alot cleaner and be safer than thru the door jams!


i myself have my 1/0gauge wire ran under my car all the way back and up under the back seat cusion.... but thats just because... well hell 1/0gauge wire is fat as hell!!!!!! and i got 2 runs of it... one power one ground. no way to hide that stuff under the carpet.LOL

i dont have a fuse for the wire that goes to the batter. the amp has a fuse.

then go buy one! the amplifiers fuse is only good if the amplifier has a problem... if the wires rubber jacket gets cut on ANYTHING it will make a direct ground which will fry start fire and destroy your car!!!!! there is no saving your car if that happens! im shocked that the amplifier kit would not come with one!!!!!! since most do now adays..
pick the type you want...
http://search.ebay.com/inline-fuse_W0QQ_trksidZm37QQfromZR40

this is the typical inline fuse for most systems....
http://cgi.ebay.com/In-Line-Fuse-Holder-with-4-Gauge-Power-Cable-and-Fuse_W0QQitemZ190220812249QQihZ009QQcategoryZ50552 QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

I need to order some stuff from sonic.

so which one should i get?
http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_6623_Hitron+FH8KR+-RED-.html

http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_10623_Hitron+FH4KR+-RED-.html


and if my fuse blows, how will i know to replase it?

The kit i have now dosint tell me what wire is used for what?!

I Know what the rca cable is for

I know the brown cable is for ground

And thw big red cable must be for the battery?

And the blue, is for the sub's, and for the blue/white cable for the head unit?

http://www.sonicelectronix.com/pictures.php?id=3522

Don't you have a best buy or circuit city around you or some type of store like that???
Just go there and get yourself a fuse holder and fuse

If it SAYS they come with a fuse, then yes then they come with a fuse
those two link that you posted do not come with one
be sure to read through item descriptions
if in doubt about something, just shoot an email to customer service, it's what they are there for.

The blue and white looks like it's the Remote Turn on Wire
it's use is in the title
when you turn on your radio, the amp goes on
But holy crap what gauge wire is the power wire?

then again...it is a kit

it say's i need a 50 amp fuse. if i get like a 60 amp or higher will it be bad or will it not matter?

so, earlyer today after work. i went to, two car audio shops, looking for a speaker harness. None sell them. So i went home and just cut the rear speaker plug off, and twist it with the wire that came with the aftermarket speaker. The end that went to the speaker had this clip, one small other big, it just slided on. This is just like crimping? But istead, i just used alot of electrical tape to cover the wires. The only thing im thinking about when doing this is, Willit affect the quality of the sound coming out of the speaker?(i hope it doesnt)If it doesnt, ill just do the same for the front speaker and save me money from ordering a speaker harness.


My front speakers came with them things that i was talking about, that slide onto the speaker. But they dont have wires already on them like the rear did. I have some speaker wire laying around, will it be ok to use it, will it not affect the sound quality of the speaker?

Im going to get this, i dont know what gauge my cable is, and this say's it does 4 and 8 gauge.. I have all the stuff to have it connect to the battery.

http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_10307_EFX+P8FHi.html

So m about to order my stuff, just waiting on the anser about the speaker stuff listed below!!!

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so, earlyer today after work. i went to, two car audio shops, looking for a speaker harness. None sell them. So i went home and just cut the rear speaker plug off, and twist it with the wire that came with the aftermarket speaker. The end that went to the speaker had this clip, one small other big, it just slided on. This is just like crimping? But istead, i just used alot of electrical tape to cover the wires. The only thing im thinking about when doing this is, Willit affect the quality of the sound coming out of the speaker?(i hope it doesnt)If it doesnt, ill just do the same for the front speaker and save me money from ordering a speaker harness.


My front speakers came with them things that i was talking about, that slide onto the speaker. But they dont have wires already on them like the rear did. I have some speaker wire laying around, will it be ok to use it, will it not affect the sound quality of the speaker?

from the looks of the picture its 8gauge BUT you can still buy a 4gauge inline fuse. if it doesnt come with a adaptor then you can simply strip the wire back alittle more and just fold over the wire backwars like a V or Z and then tighten down the set screw on the fuse holder..... i always do that for my remote turn on wire anyways because sometimes its hard to get the wire to have a good pinch to hold it in the terminals.

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from the looks of the picture its 8gauge BUT you can still buy a 4gauge inline fuse. if it doesnt come with a adaptor then you can simply strip the wire back alittle more and just fold over the wire backwars like a V or Z and then tighten down the set screw on the fuse holder..... i always do that for my remote turn on wire anyways because sometimes its hard to get the wire to have a good pinch to hold it in the terminals.


Im going with the speaker harness. Do you knone anything about them?

Will this fit?
http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_12728_Metra+72-7800.html



Thank's for all your help!
I'm Getting close to ending this thread.

ive never used speaker adaptors ive always just cut the wires..... lets face it if your swaping out the crapy stock speakers i dont think youd ever think about puting them back in.LOL

LOL.i have speaker wire that is from some speakes from a home stereo, It should work?

I have evrything hook't up. But im not geting power to the amp!!! I have it wired To the battery and the head unit. It has this light on top of the amp to light up the V for visonik, that is lit up, but the green power button is not!!I disonect the power cable for the battery, and the V is still lit up, so that gets its power from the head unit turn on. So im gessing the problem is the cable to the battery, but i have it hooked up right.


The fuse holder wire is biger than the wire that i have on the other end, could that be the problem?

i fix it, i didnt have a good ground!!..

So, how does everything sound? I am starting off with replacing my door speakers first with some Alpine SPS-600, then my deck speakers (probably some Alpine Type R 6x9s), but I highly doubt I am going too big in the Civic since it is just my daily driver. I "may" add a 4 channel amp to the whole setup down the road then I am calling the sound system done!

MY amp says x-over, and under it has a switch that give's me 3 options lpf, full, and hpf . MY manual doesnt say what it does. I only have the 2 subs hookt to the amp. For best performance what should i haVE IT set at lpf, full,of hpf ?


Y sub was playing fine on the way to school, then it started to thump on its own, with or without music playing. Kind of like a hart beat.. What could it be? Could it be the ground? I just hand screwed it on the spare tire mount,it probly came loose..

ya the ground is probably the bad spot. make sure its clean and clean metal surface and tight!

also the Xcross over is the crossover on the amplifier. LP is for low pass, for subwoofer setup. HP is for HIGH pass which is for more for interior speakers. and FL or FULL is full signal you get high and low frequinces. best option is LP for the sub. and then play with the Hz crossover points to find the best sound to the sub with it pumping away!

also if you dont know what the Xover setting is then im sure your not to sure what the INPUT SENSITIVITY... its not a volume control! it should be matched with what your radios rca output is. if you crank it up it can easily fry your amplifier! if in doubt take it to a audio shop and ask them if they could tune the amplifier settings really quick.

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ya the ground is probably the bad spot. make sure its clean and clean metal surface and tight!

also the Xcross over is the crossover on the amplifier. LP is for low pass, for subwoofer setup. HP is for HIGH pass which is for more for interior speakers. and FL or FULL is full signal you get high and low frequinces. best option is LP for the sub. and then play with the Hz crossover points to find the best sound to the sub with it pumping away!

also if you dont know what the Xover setting is then im sure your not to sure what the INPUT SENSITIVITY... its not a volume control! it should be matched with what your radios rca output is. if you crank it up it can easily fry your amplifier! if in doubt take it to a audio shop and ask them if they could tune the amplifier settings really quick.



my rca out put is 4 volts. I read in the amp manual on how to set the input sensitivity.. ill see if i can set it..
is there a safe side for INPUT SENSITIVITY?

Where is a good plase to ground it, i just want to get it working agian!!!!!!!