:D:D:D I am so proudof myself today that I beat Mustang tonight at the track. I ran a 17.2 also from a 17.5. I still cant hit 16's yet. Due to Texas weather. It was 73 Degrees at 11:55 PM with 88% Hum.

ORIGINAL: importcivicus

:D:D:D I am so proudof myself today that I beat Mustang tonight at the track. I ran a 17.2 also from a 17.5. I still cant hit 16's yet. Due to Texas weather. It was 73 Degrees at 11:55 PM with 88% Hum.



wtf kinda mustang we talking here. Cmon kid......face it.....stock stangs beat stock civics.

unless the driver was an idiot, and it was a v-6.

well IMO if its a 6........its not a real stang. A mid 30s guy lives up the street from me and he has an early 90s 5.0 stang. Its blown, sprayed and built(Hes even got a FN parachutte on the back to ease the brakes.)......the thing ran a low 9 on slicks at the englishtown raceway. THATS a mustang.

Well the stang i was racing was a 3.8. The only way i won was treeing his a$$ and hitting all my shift points. Then I was put up against a couple of 5.0 stangs lets just say i was eating a lot of dust from them. That and if you go to my car domain website and see what has been installed on my car.

the truth is that the take rate for the 6 cylinder mustangs are VERY high...ive seen lots of new stangs, several in my neighborhood, and ive only seen one, maybe two GTs out of the 10 or so 05+ stangs...the problem is that the douchebags that are buying these new stangs arent your typical mustang douchebags..this is a new breed of douchebag...these are the nerdy middle aged men and women who remember that when they were young in the 70s, the mustang was what all the cool kids drove...now that theyre 45 and married, the new stang looks like the old one, and is affordable...so instead of the stang market being mostly limited to morons who only know enough about cars to pick through a jegs catalog to pick out parts and a phone book to find someone to install things, this new breed doesnt even know what jegs is...:D

if a v6 Stang isnt a Stang, then is a sohc civic a civic? i say it was a good matchup. leave the v8s to the dohcs, we'll take care of them.;)

Good call, Sac. Let the V8's pick on somebody their own size (B's). Us D series soldiers will handle up on the V6 pukes.

I don't think they should even produce the Mustang in the V6.

v6 stangs are slow as balls. It should be a big embarrasment to them that a little 4 cyl honda is faster, has a 10x better reliability, and a far superios gas mileage.


No offense dude, but it almost seems that all of those "mods" have degraded the performance of your car. vovka86 has a stock '97 DX that pulled 17.5 all day long

You're looking at a 2007 Mustang owner right here... when that GT500 hits the floor you can bet your sweet ass I'll be on the bandwagon. Talk all the **** you want but that thing will be a beast!

5.4L supercharged... yeah, I'll be murdering that new Skyline left and right :D

My 98 EX runs a 17 flat with intake, header exhaust, short shifter, a 15" sub and box, 2 amps, everypart still in it, an exhaust leak, and a faulty speedo head unit!!! if i fix everything and pull my sound system ill break into the 16's easily. and that was a ****ty reaction time of like .3-.6

But here where i live in CENTRAL TEXAS it get hot as **** during the day time and the track didnt stay open as late as they normal do. Which should of been 1am but theyclosed at 1130. Which pissed me off because it just started to cool off around 1130. So that is way im still stuck in the low 17's.

Just go with the GT 40 cause that kicks ass!!! I got to drive one!! instant orgasm!!

the GT40 is another piece of garbage...that car is literally falling apart...they recalled them because of lower control arms seperating from the chassis.

im not afraid of the GT500...that poser POS, when released is going to cost so much, ill happily take a used Z06 or used viper, and wait at the other end of the track for the GT500 owners.

ORIGINAL: importcivicus

But here where i live in CENTRAL TEXAS it get hot as **** during the day time and the track didnt stay open as late as they normal do. Which should of been 1am but theyclosed at 1130. Which pissed me off because it just started to cool off around 1130. So that is way im still stuck in the low 17's.



we dont get 105 temps here in charleston like you do in texas but I assure you, I was in texas a month ago while it was 105f and I was alking around whistling dixie. It was nothing. Come to the south atlantic coast one day while its about 99-100. You will pass out. Its a frickin sauna here with all the humidity.

ORIGINAL: andryuha

v6 stangs are slow as balls.




I dunno, my balls are pretty quick

ORIGINAL: remington870_20ga


we dont get 105 temps here in charleston like you do in texas but I assure you, I was in texas a month ago while it was 105f and I was alking around whistling dixie. It was nothing. Come to the south atlantic coast one day while its about 99-100. You will pass out. Its a frickin sauna here with all the humidity.



I have been to South Carolina but that was in September to December 1999. its was hot at first then got cold as hell. But have you been here after it rains for a good 1 day or so. I get to damm hot. So I dont want to hear about you complain its the humidity till you live where Im at. I live at Ft. Hood, Tx. Right in the heart ofTexas...Oooohhhhhh Its HOT.

ORIGINAL: LEVIII

ORIGINAL: andryuha

v6 stangs are slow as balls.




I dunno, my balls are pretty quick


lmao!!!!

ORIGINAL: civicraider

My 98 EX runs a 17 flat with intake, header exhaust, short shifter, a 15" sub and box, 2 amps, everypart still in it, an exhaust leak, and a faulty speedo head unit!!! if i fix everything and pull my sound system ill break into the 16's easily. and that was a ****ty reaction time of like .3-.6


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with those mods and that much added weight, you'll be lucky to hit below 17.5. and RT has nothing to do with ET. you can sit there and spool your turbo for an hour and it wont start your ET till you move

just like i said - it looks as though the car is faster stock. Just throwing bunch of parts at the car without making sure they work together properly will not help you at all. FYI, the temperature will not make that much of a difference. Also, if you're that anal about cooling the car off, put q few bags of ice on the block and intake.

I'm also curious about a few things:

1. What diameter is your exhaust piping?
2. What kind of tires are you running? (good tires are important for any kind of racing, since they will definately influence your times)
3. Why do you want to change your bosch spark plug wires (said do on the site)? (bosch is the best, when it comes to electrical)

i believe it, there are quite a few people who hit low 17s to high 16s in stock exs. most average mid to high 17s though.

Edit for saying something stupid :D

ORIGINAL: andryuha


3. Why do you want to change your bosch spark plug wires (said do on the site)? (bosch is the best, when it comes to electrical)



Im not a big fan of their plugs.

Hey Sacs, wasnt it the boasch plugs that warped your head?

i had bosch plugs in the RT for about a month, and they were crap, causing an awful misfire...i changed to NGK, and ive had no problem...on the other hand, the bimmer has bosch coil packs, and with 200,000+ they had not been replaced when the car came into my possession

just the platinum+4s. ive heard of a lot of problems with them running too hot and warping heads. the others are fine. actually, if i remember right, i have nomal bosch plats in my car now.

ORIGINAL: civicraider

My 98 EX runs a 17 flat with intake, header exhaust, short shifter, a 15" sub and box, 2 amps, everypart still in it, an exhaust leak, and a faulty speedo head unit!!! if i fix everything and pull my sound system ill break into the 16's easily. and that was a ****ty reaction time of like .3-.6


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with those mods and that much added weight, you'll be lucky to hit below 17.5. and RT has nothing to do with ET. you can sit there and spool your turbo for an hour and it wont start your ET till you move
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what turbo?! and i was shooting for the mid 16's but with all my stuff still in it wasn't working..LOL but those are the most common and cheap bolt on's

ORIGINAL: civicraider



ORIGINAL: civicraider

My 98 EX runs a 17 flat with intake, header exhaust, short shifter, a 15" sub and box, 2 amps, everypart still in it, an exhaust leak, and a faulty speedo head unit!!! if i fix everything and pull my sound system ill break into the 16's easily. and that was a ****ty reaction time of like .3-.6


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haha, you just owned yourself. You quoted your own BS and replied with a BS emoticon! :D

ORIGINAL: civicraider



ORIGINAL: civicraider

My 98 EX runs a 17 flat with intake, header exhaust, short shifter, a 15" sub and box, 2 amps, everypart still in it, an exhaust leak, and a faulty speedo head unit!!! if i fix everything and pull my sound system ill break into the 16's easily. and that was a ****ty reaction time of like .3-.6


[sm=bs.gif]

with those mods and that much added weight, you'll be lucky to hit below 17.5. and RT has nothing to do with ET. you can sit there and spool your turbo for an hour and it wont start your ET till you move


what turbo?! and i was shooting for the mid 16's but with all my stuff still in it wasn't working..LOL but those are the most common and cheap bolt on's

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im giving an example dude. you can go to the track and watch guys sit at the line for 2 or 3 seconds and let their turbo spool up and still get a blazing time because RT has nothing to do with ET

ORIGINAL: polo708

You're looking at a 2007 Mustang owner right here... when that GT500 hits the floor you can bet your sweet ass I'll be on the bandwagon. Talk all the **** you want but that thing will be a beast!

5.4L supercharged... yeah, I'll be murdering that new Skyline left and right :D



And please destroy any other New GT-R you find it looks like a shoe box or an esscort and beamer stuck together and took steroids...nissan messed up on that just like civic screwed up the SIR

I simply cant understand why people get these crappy times....I have a 98 sedan that when it had the D16Y7 in it I did minor crap to it and was knocking on the door of 15's. I could pull 16.1's all night....run after run after run.

BTW even in a V6 stang it would take a idiot to get beat by a car running mid 17's

ORIGINAL: md420

BTW even in a V6 stang it would take a idiot to get beat by a car running mid 17's



Really a V6?
4.0 SOHC 12V V6
210hp@6500
240lb/ft@3500
Curb weight@3300lbs

That's 15.7lbs for every 1 hp not surprised it's running 17s
Nissan skyline GT-R has a 13lbs per hp and it runs 14s and its only 2940lbs

Ford Mustang LX 4.0l 0 to 60mph-6.9......Standing 1/4 mile-15.3 (C&D Feb 05)

It takes a really ****ty driver to make a car drop 2+ seconds of it's stock 1/4 mile times

ORIGINAL: md420

Ford Mustang LX 4.0l 0 to 60mph-6.9......Standing 1/4 mile-15.3 (C&D Feb 05)

It takes a really ****ty driver to make a car drop 2+ seconds of it's stock 1/4 mile times


i don't know how they got those stats, but I beat my fair share of V6 pusstangs. I wouldn't mess with GT or others

Like every car in the world that has been around for more then 15 years, the engine's in them change. even a LX 4.0 Mustang could go from a SOHC to a DOHC and that would spank almost all N/A, non-spraying, non-swapped civics. BTW C&D '05? They were probably running the 05 Mustang, which is not a say 95 mustang that ran 17s.

Kind of off the wall, but I just heard a street bike race. Was perfect silence outside my house, then all of a sudden whaaaaam, whaaaam, know its a street bike when the shifts come like second or so.

On average I see most V6 stangs even the 95 models with automatics running atleast low 16's stock

Just cause i guy is driving an Mclauren F1 doesn't mean he/she automatically knows how to drive fast.

ORIGINAL: FD_Sauce

Just cause i guy is driving an Mclauren F1 doesn't mean he/she automatically knows how to drive fast.


can i get an AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAmen!!??!!?!!

MUSTANGS ARE EASY TO BEAT, EXTREMLY EASY IF ITS NOT GT, BUT STILL EASY IF ITS A GT. BUT STILL CONGRATS.

ORIGINAL: fixntune

MUSTANGS ARE EASY TO BEAT, EXTREMLY EASY IF ITS NOT GT, BUT STILL EASY IF ITS A GT. BUT STILL CONGRATS.


i'm going to ask you nicely: Could you please turn your "caps lock" off, so you responses are easier to read?

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAmen

ORIGINAL: andryuha

ORIGINAL: fixntune

MUSTANGS ARE EASY TO BEAT, EXTREMLY EASY IF ITS NOT GT, BUT STILL EASY IF ITS A GT. BUT STILL CONGRATS.


i'm going to ask you nicely: Could you please turn your "caps lock" off, so you responses are easier to read?


Ditto...

Yeah with solid link suspension should be easy to beat off the line with them pushing more torque the HP. Especially when you get a new driver gunning it right off the light spins up his tires while your half way down the quarter mile.

Thats what it felt like when I was half way down the track and I looked in my rear view mirrior and say him catching up, but it wasn't good enough

^^^ lol didn't i call it exactlly. Power is nothing if you can't get it on the tarmac.

ORIGINAL: polo708

You're looking at a 2007 Mustang owner right here... when that GT500 hits the floor you can bet your sweet ass I'll be on the bandwagon. Talk all the **** you want but that thing will be a beast!

5.4L supercharged... yeah, I'll be murdering that new Skyline left and right :D


hell yea those are sweet.

ill still take an 04 cobra though.

ORIGINAL: civicraider

My 98 EX runs a 17 flat with intake, header exhaust, short shifter, a 15" sub and box, 2 amps, everypart still in it, an exhaust leak, and a faulty speedo head unit!!! if i fix everything and pull my sound system ill break into the 16's easily. and that was a ****ty reaction time of like .3-.6


Just so you know, your reaction time dosent factor into your ET... the clock start when you break the line

ORIGINAL: andryuha

ORIGINAL: md420

Ford Mustang LX 4.0l 0 to 60mph-6.9......Standing 1/4 mile-15.3 (C&D Feb 05)

It takes a really ****ty driver to make a car drop 2+ seconds of it's stock 1/4 mile times


i don't know how they got those stats, but I beat my fair share of V6 pusstangs. I wouldn't mess with GT or others


i will:D:D13.7 stock baby

stock 13.7 in what?

s2k

with nothing done, at all?

I really dont believe you...[sm=lame.gif]

GOOD FOR YOU!!! BUT JUST FOR YOUR INFO...MUSTANGS ARNT REALLY THAT HARD TO BEAT...THEY ARE EXTREMLY HEAVY.

You do realize the caps lock key is like 1/18 of an inch away from the letter "A" right?

ORIGINAL: fixntune

GOOD FOR YOU!!! BUT JUST FOR YOUR INFO...MUSTANGS ARNT REALLY THAT HARD TO BEAT...THEY ARE EXTREMLY HEAVY.


ill let u race a gt then.. or a cobra, or roshe perhaps...


yeah a stock s2k does anythin from like a 13.7 to a 14.2

either way mine will b e blown sooo even faster

i was doubting you DCA..thats very good for a stock S2K. whose blower kit are you going with?

I think it's time for a "group hug"!

comptech or maybe vortech....gotta take it one step at a time tho.

ORIGINAL: DCAcivic

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ill let u race a gt then.. or a cobra, or roshe perhaps...



what is roshe? Roush

i think we knew what he meant....so what exactly does the "roush" model entail, other than those side pipes? ive seen some at the track that run very well, and some that run as bad as the GTs

a stage 1 and 2 area stock gt with some body work and suspension goodies and the exhaust

the stage 3 and 360/380 r are supercharged beasts

so what are the differences between 1 and 2?

Cobra > Roush 1,2,3

ORIGINAL: Patrick

so what are the differences between 1 and 2?

the stage 1 is strictly body kit and exhaust and usually a cai and wheels and sometimes springs
the stage 2 is full suspension wheels upgraded leather and some other little goodies

and the cobra owns in power but ill take a stage 3 over a cobra anyday
or get the best of both worlds and get a roushcobra. fnsweet

what determines stage three?

edit: oh nvm

The stage 3 roush is raw compared to the Cobra in outside appearance...I will give it that.

hmm just me or is Hcf turning into Fmf

trust me cause...that isnt a concern.

oh i know especially since this specific thread was on a mustang (retracts previous statement) I have no problem with Mastangs or the owners. I noticed the old Imports VS domestic thing is kinda gone. You dont have as many dueche bags talking **** about civics just cus they own their dads 5.0 stang any more. It seems more like my car vs everyone else's car type now. =D no discrimination hate on every other car lol.

ORIGINAL: FD_Sauce

oh i know especially since this specific thread was on a mustang (retracts previous statement) I have no problem with Mastangs or the owners. I noticed the old Imports VS domestic thing is kinda gone. You dont have as many dueche bags talking **** about civics just cus they own their dads 5.0 stang any more. It seems more like my car vs everyone else's car type now. =D no discrimination hate on every other car lol.
go crusing in Sacramento on a saturday night. its alive and kicking here.

The carism or the street racing?!

I'm actually headed down to california in just under a week. And I don't think my probe would make it/be worth bringing down there lol. Been hearing a lot about Dragnet or some police force down there specificly on modified cars?


ORIGINAL: sacicons

ORIGINAL: FD_Sauce

oh i know especially since this specific thread was on a mustang (retracts previous statement) I have no problem with Mastangs or the owners. I noticed the old Imports VS domestic thing is kinda gone. You dont have as many dueche bags talking **** about civics just cus they own their dads 5.0 stang any more. It seems more like my car vs everyone else's car type now. =D no discrimination hate on every other car lol.
go crusing in Sacramento on a saturday night. its alive and kicking here.

the feud.

yeah it's really rare up here now. You'll see mustangs and cameros with carbon fibre hoods or what looks like that, lowered body, Dragon painted or stickers on them. Mixed up world up here. What's next a Type R cobra?
ORIGINAL: sacicons

the feud.

technically, its already been done...there have been three different Cobra Rs..1993, 1995, and 2000.

Oh then there you go.

either way good kill

nice sig which is faster
ORIGINAL: Patrick

technically, its already been done...there have been three different Cobra Rs..1993, 1995, and 2000.

on what type of track?

Im happy to see that some of the import crowd has respect for a different type of car.I also have respect for yalls types of cars if its tastefully do.Keep throwing money at it and it'll get faster.

Original: Fixntune



GOOD FOR YOU!!! BUT JUST FOR YOUR INFO...MUSTANGS ARNT REALLY THAT HARD TO BEAT...THEY ARE EXTREMLY HEAVY. .........that all depends on what kind of mustang.Any of the fox mustangs make great race cars and they dont take much to make them go fast,thats why people like them(and they are a thing of beauty).Mine weighs 3330 with me in it and i weigh almost 200 pounds.....do the math thats not a heavy car

so sonny, what does your mustang run?

What is the big deal about caps? and if thats the case well then, get at everyone for writting in lower case...dude you need to seriously chill out about the caps thing...its a pet peeve for you, not for me...let it BE!!!

ORIGINAL: fixntune

What is the big deal about caps? and if thats the case well then, get at everyone for writting in lower case...dude you need to seriously chill out about the caps thing...its a pet peeve for you, not for me...let it BE!!!
where the hell did that come from?

Go back a page or 2

Wow you guys need to back off the stangs. I have a 87 GT 5 speed with a full exausht and under drive pullies and my car runs 14's all day long in south florida with 98% humidity. I think the 6banger the origional poster beat was a bad driver or was his first time at the track. I will lay 500 on the table now and race any one of you with an exausht or equal mods to me and take your money. I put $900 into my car to make it run 14 flat those werent even power mods for another $500 i can add a cam and some roller rockers and be in the low 13's. Dont knock a car you dont know much about. 17's are pathetic. My girlfriends z24 cavalier runs 16's every day of the week. My offer is on the table anyone who wants to run ill go. Maybe you guys should throw your money at a car that will show something at the track for the money put into it....

Maby my fellow mustang guys are being a little agressive here but what they are trying to say is that there is some real ignorance about Mustangs. Some of you respect and show knowlege of our kind and we apreciate it, and belive it or not, respect your kind. I have known some guys with little civics packing big turbo's and a good amount of money and running some pretty strong runs. I also know of many Mustangs which are pure embarrasment to our kind. There are several types of mustangs, The classic style (64.5-73), then the bad memory of the Mustang II (74-78), then the Foxbody (79-93), SN95 which as regular (94-98) then New Edge (99-04) which the SN's are also foxbodies, just larger and heavier, finally the DEW S197 05+

The "new GT40" isn't a GT40, it's just the Ford GT. Of course the controll arms are tearing out of them, they have the power to do so. High power cars don't break because the are POS's, they break because of the power they make.
Mustang = Heavy, not really. Yes the new one's are, a 03-04 Cobra convertable can weigh in at 4000lbs, my pickup truck only weights about 4000lbs. My foxbody in GT Hatchback form weighed around 3200 stock, it is in a rebuild right now, my goal now is 2600lbs. It's not that hard to get there either. Pushrods can rev. A buddy of mine has a 351W stroked to 424CID (4.060 bore, 4.15 stroke) and the engine revvs to 9000rpm. 310 (302 .060 overbore) foxbodies are breaking into the 9's in the 1/4 all motor.

Speed cost money, how fast do you want to go, how fast can you afford to go? That is true with all types. The Import vs Domestic is kind of dead now. Today it's the one's that are real, and then there are the posers. I don't care if you have a 17 second civic or a 8 second mustang, it doesn't make you any more or any less, it's all in the attitude.

first off, i also admin a large mustang forum, and there are guys there with V6s running in the mid 17s...into the low 18s...

i have less than 5000 in my car, and i was running mid 12s, on 87 octane, , tipping the scales at just under 3800lbs... prior to the current mild rebuilt...

my daily driver is running very low 16s, and is sniffing out 15s..stock auto...

i find it humorous that mustang guys come here seeming so offended that members here are talking trash when they actually beat one...meanwhile if you go to ANY mustang forum...its ricer this and ricer that...

Vipers are peices of s**t.. no reliability at all... My friend's brother sells them. I would rather have a mustang over a damn Camaro any day... well depending of course... no V6 mustangs over a 69 or 70 camaro. Duh... but the GT500 will decimate......most.

Also, I'm not a HUGE nissan fan... but the new skyline will be NOTHING to sneeze at... it'd be a damn good race to put a GT500 against a new skyline...whenever they come out that is. anyone know the truth behind whats gonna be under the hood of the next supra? that'll be a beast too... i've read in magazines toyota HAS thrown around the idea of a twin turbo V-8....bet it'll be a hefty price to boot.(same with the GT500... not as badly though.... and just as much so if not MORE with the skyline...it being a Japanese Super car and all)

I totally agree... they break s**t cuz of the power... plus.. pushrods can roar like a mother. I have a 1985 Bronco with a 351W high output... headers, almost no exhaust (lol) an Weiland intake, 4 barrel holley and a few other odds and ends... it stomps the little a$$ wholes around here with their camaros and s**T.... it's lifted with 31 inch tall tires to boot!

And another thing about mustangs.... compare them to most other V8 cars out there and you'll discover they're rather lite weight... that's why they're so fast. they're notorious for having smaller v8s (compared to ohh....a corvette) but they wiegh less and make decent competition. YOU CAN"T compare them to civics when it comes to weight... civics were made for gas mileage people... don't forget! (sorry about all the posting here, i just keep reading and keep wanting to reply to dumb s**t people say, lol)

i would like some instances of these vipers being unreliable? the national series that i run, has a viper class, with some of the running in the 8s...ford GTs have wheels falling off...what are the viper problems?

and before you should try to make something up..i worked for a dodge service department for a while..

ORIGINAL: Roth_the_Dark_Lord

And another thing about mustangs.... compare them to most other V8 cars out there and you'll discover they're rather lite weight... that's why they're so fast. they're notorious for having smaller v8s (compared to ohh....a corvette) but they wiegh less and make decent competition. YOU CAN"T compare them to civics when it comes to weight... civics were made for gas mileage people... don't forget! (sorry about all the posting here, i just keep reading and keep wanting to reply to dumb s**t people say, lol)


a mustang weighs less than a vette????

I didn't say they way less than a vette, i said they have smaller motors... all i know is that everyone tells me that mustangs derive their speed from their curve weight, not raw power.... if you've ever driven one (yes... i have) you know that a good one can almost be hard to keep on the road. (v8+rwd+lite weight=hard to keep on road)...and for the love of god, i don't wanna have a crap ton of people jump on my case for this, ok?


and about the vipers... I was told that by a guy who sells them.. he's the biggest mopar guy i know. He may have just been talking about the newer ones... or even just the older ones... he didn't specify... but he said he'd never own one...(he'll keep his dually, lol) Besides, hes a good, trustworthy guy.... he knows what hes talking about... he's into restoration of old muscle cars... anyways, he said theres too many people coming in to have their viper fixed. Parts were almost literally falling off... but go ahead and believe what you wanna believe... besides, there's better bang for your buck out there! If you bought a new Gt mustang (300 hp, under $20,000) you wouldn't have to deal with the 10 mpg a viper gets.... for only 150-200 more hp (at BEST).... anyways... i was just statin what I have heard.. and what I believe... besides.... Dodges aren't the most reliable cars on earth.. now are they? i'd like to hear a decent argument on that... Sure everyone has their screw-ups... Ford Maverick.... Chevy Citation... Dodge Neons are S**T when it comes to reliability... and resale value....

Please don't jump on my case for the things I have said... I know how some of you guys LOVE to do that... just keep it TONED down. THANKS.

Roth

find me someplace that sells a mustang GT for under 20,000...

The vipers that he is talking about are probably people who are beating the piss out of them, and in that case, any car will have problems. I currently own 5 dodges. MY DD has 53,000 on it, and the only thing that i have had to replace was brake pads...im still on STOCK rotors..and i beat that car..its been autocrossing and has done LOTS of drag racing. i had made probably 30 passes down the dragstrip in it before it was out of its break-in period. the white car in my picture below, the engine is original stock bottom end..from 1969, and with 87 octane, its pushing a 3800lb car down the track in the mid to low 12 second range...before the current rebuild...my old dodge truck has 220,000 miles on it, and i have driven it all over the northeast...and the newer truck has 114,000 on it, and is pretty modded, and hasnt had any troubles...

*knock on wood*

RWD=light=hard to keep on the road....that=a driver who doesnt know what he is doing.

and no offense..but "a guy who sells them"..that makes him a car salesman, and having worked in the auto field my whole life, salesmen are the biggest BS'ers in the world....

i am a car enthusiast, and the members here will probably tell you that i give Every make a fair shake...but i am a dodge driver, and there is a reason behind that...ive never had one fail me (that wasnt my own fault..i had a 90 shadow that did have an oil change in 3 years...didnt work out too well)..if its a debate about reliability, i have all the ammo you would want to hear...

yes i have driven a mustang.. i own one. and it is heavy as hell

ORIGINAL: polo708

You're looking at a 2007 Mustang owner right here... when that GT500 hits the floor you can bet your sweet ass I'll be on the bandwagon. Talk all the **** you want but that thing will be a beast!

5.4L supercharged... yeah, I'll be murdering that new Skyline left and right :D


that is until they twin or single turbo that beast. its a nissan, its gotta have boost sometime in its life.

anyone know what the 05-06 pontiac GTO runs?

about 13.3

it depends whether it is the LS1 or LS2...50hp difference...also depends whether it is an ATX or MTX..i know a guy who runs 13.6s with an ATX LS2 spinning the tires...

I have a 87 GT 5 speed with a full exausht and under drive pullies and my car runs 14's all day long in south florida with 98% humidity. I think the 6banger the origional poster beat was a bad driver or was his first time at the track. I will lay 500 on the table now and race any one of you with an exausht or equal mods to me and take your money.
I would be happy as hell to take your money. Intake exhaust 5.0 vs my intake/exhaust civic. If your ass is really cocky, then how about going from a roll to eliminate the launch? Im in south mississippi, so mayby we could meet up in Pensecola one weekend?

I'll run ya mr. mississippi, i'm extremely close to you.

someone get a video of this.