Enjoy.

civic vs supra (http://host49.ipowerweb.com/~tunedbyc/videos/civicvssupra.wmv)

Civic Dyno (http://host49.ipowerweb.com/~tunedbyc/videos/cftsidyno.wmv)

one word "amazing"

So beautiful... brings tears to my eyes

omg i need some new underwear i just wet myself

OWNED! I bet that civic goes zero to jail in about 5 seconds.

I could not see this can you send it to my e-mail, grncivicvtec@yahoo.com. I want to see this bad.

ORIGINAL: grncivicvtec

I could not see this can you send it to my e-mail, grncivicvtec@yahoo.com. I want to see this bad.



Its a windows media file, go to www.microsoft.com/windows/windowsmedia/players.aspx and get windows 10. Or if you have a firewall turn it off.

or you have a SLOW ASS connection like mine (26400k)[:@]

only shows u one brand name car that gets owned by the civic.

-B

with enough money ANY car can be fast... I have a friend who's monstering a Suzuki Samurai. Imagine the faces of punk kids being owned by a Samurai, haha.

Haha, Im thinking about getting an early 80's samurai

i had a samurai for a few years. i assume its gonna be lowered a little.

Hell no. You see, im an SUV man at heart. My civic was given to me (never complained), so I figured why not drive it till the steering wheel falls off to save a $hit load of money and along the way beef that sucker up. But I am thinking about getting a samurai so I can do some serious offroading in so I wont cry if I break it, also those things are cheap as hell to fix and are easy to work on anyway. So, I might jack it up... probably not, I want to at least fit 33's on it without a lift.

no way youll get 33s without a lift. i tried getting 33 on my old ranger, and it wasnt even CLOSE, the truck just sat on them. and i know my dads samauri had smaller wheel wells than the ranger. sounds cool though, i grew up as a mud-bogger/ rock-crawler too.

I figured that. Im mainly looking to put the biggest wheels on it w/o a lift. Generally, trucks/ suvs that have that look really good.

Thats freaking amazin.

thats sweet as hell

that car is my idle (horsepower wise)

that flic never gets old.

that was a very beautiful sight no one thinks civics have what it takes to do that

wowie zowie

in that little motor damnnnnnn

That's actually a turboed GSR swap (just goes to show you why that's the best turbo Civic swap). That one, however, is heavily tuned, and puts down over 550 whp/375 lb/ft.

I was very inspired by this clip, adding a turbo to a civic and killing a supra, makes me want to do this to my civic. Thanx for the inspiration!

HAHA either that Supra was an NA or the civic had some crazy mods. I seriously doubt you can just slip a turbo on a civic and do that he was prolly boosting one bar. i could be wrong but im sure he didnt have stock interals in that block either. Im sorry guys thats just a lil too much or the guy in the Supra didnt know how to drive

nah man. it can happen. my buddy down in dallas souped his civic to about 380 HP and beat a Corvette so i mean it is very possible for civics to get that much power. although yes it looks like the supra driver don't know squat about shifting gears perfectly. LOL.

-B

well yah any car you can make go fast but if you take all the stuff that the guy did to the civic and do that to the supra. the supra would win. stock those have 300 rwhp and 315 torque. (TT)

That would mean doing a GSR swap and boosting the balls off it... And as far as I know, no one has ever done a GSR -> Supra swap. ;) Plus, that Civic is pushing over 550 hp/ 380 lb/ft at the wheels, and it weighs significantly less that a Supra.

yeh but look at all the work they had to do to get it there boost 22 psi on a supra and see what happen in that video they didnt give any specs on the supra.

That is nothing.. Look at this guys:

10.86@136.3mph
Modacar's 10-second Pro-Am Coupe
689 Horsepower Puts this Pro-Am Heavyweight into the 10s
Text & Photos by Michael Ferrara

The IDRC's Pro-Am FWD class is arguably one of the most popular, competitive and exciting classes in import drag racing. From coast to coast, privateer racers and shops are building Pro-Am FWD cars to wage war at IDRC events or just to earn bragging rights at their local drag strip and on internet forums.

Since Pro-Am FWDs are essentially high-performance, daily-driven, street car on slicks, just about every enthusiast can relate to a Pro-Am FWD racecar. When looking for a marketing plan that would showcase their talents, Modacar of Livermore, California decided to put their business on the map by building its own Pro-Am FWD beast. While most would have chosen the lightest platform possible, Modacar paid little attention to weight management when they selected a 1999 Civic Si as their platform. At an average weight disadvantage of 300 to 500 pounds, the Modacar Coupe relies on a healthy dose of horsepower to be competitive in its class. Currently, horsepower checks in at nearly 700 horsepower at the wheels with plans for more ponies in the future.


Modacar have made their own little drag version of the Civic Coupe 99 Si :) Read the entire article here (http://www.modacar.com/dragsport_modacar.html)

Now THAT is some serious tuning.

actually kappa thats not a gsr swap it is a b16 head with a gsr sleeved block and it pushes 550 whp at 25 psi. the shop that built that motor isnt to far from my house and ive seen that SI in person.......its mean you just feel intimidated when you look at it

Yeah, I know, but technically it's still a GSR swap...

i showed my friends..they respec civic now

i think u have to buy the whole wire from the hood latch to the dash, but just go to a junkyard and see, either way it wont be hard to do urself.

ummm, oops. :D

Haha. I believe that one is in the General Tech forum.

the civic dyno...ive seen that car here in fl...he was at bithlow....blew his motor threw the rods everything sucks for him in the pre runs he was smokin everyone..

:( damn and to think I was in love...........

he was from central florida turbos

Dosnt get old that 1...You guys Love racing in straingt lines dont you?:D

I mean, we (in Britain) have Raods called 'B'roads which run through the countryside at a National speed limit of 60mph, there often tight bends short straights(touching 120mph before braking) and series of chicanes and fast long bends, all on a country road. Now me and my friends have ace races along these roads with cars extremly more powerfull than our own. Iv walked all over an M3 convertible on a 26mile long Broad, and my Type R Standard! Ok the M3 would probly do 1/4mile quicker than me,probly out run me and probly has a 0-60 faster than mine of 6.4secs but when it comes down to racing on a circuit type race, its always down to the driver,
Like was said before, the supra guy might not change gear right-so put him in the civic and the supra might have abetter chance.

Besides turbos are for wimps..NA is the way.;)

You know my luck a good back road would mean owning an Amish carriege or 2.;) But doesn't help none that a tractor or a combine along with some extremely sour REDNECK chaw spittin dumbasses in their '84 chevy LUV truck with a 4" lift kit wouldn't pull some SH*T and cause someone trying to do the damn speed limit to wreck.[:@]

The only cool Billy Bob is Thorton cuz he had Angelina Jolie:D

ORIGINAL: milanoCTRjonuk

Dosnt get old that 1...You guys Love racing in straingt lines dont you?:D

I mean, we (in Britain) have Raods called 'B'roads which run through the countryside at a National speed limit of 60mph, there often tight bends short straights(touching 120mph before braking) and series of chicanes and fast long bends, all on a country road. Now me and my friends have ace races along these roads with cars extremly more powerfull than our own. Iv walked all over an M3 convertible on a 26mile long Broad, and my Type R Standard! Ok the M3 would probly do 1/4mile quicker than me,probly out run me and probly has a 0-60 faster than mine of 6.4secs but when it comes down to racing on a circuit type race, its always down to the driver,
Like was said before, the supra guy might not change gear right-so put him in the civic and the supra might have abetter chance.

Besides turbos are for wimps..NA is the way.;)
preach it! damn straightaways. the only straight lines in racing should follow and be followed by banked turns (or the occasional off-camber one;))IN DIFFERENT DIRECTIONS! none of this left turn all the time crap. though i may have to disagree on the turbo thing;)

Absolutely. I'd much rather run on a circuit with a bunch of random turns...but still...pwning a random supra while cruising along a highway would be neat.

that was a stock TT supra where-as face that civic to a BPU+Turbo upgraded supra and say buh bye(BPU tends to get you between 500-600 WHP) plus a turbo puts you well over Moral of rambling-modded supras will kill any and every civic (provided it still has the 4 banger heart)

life would be fun with a 2JZ sitting in a Civic.. make it rwd and the works and u got yourself a 19 pound(sarcasim) supra:O how fun and death defying

I bet he has the SSQ BOV. That sounds exactly the same as mine, but you can tell hes pushin 25 psi, and I'm up to 15.[:@]
Sick video. Does anyone know what bore increase that b16 block has? I bet what he hasm makes my .2 over look bad. I bet hes runnin that b16 with 87mm pistons. .6 over is ridiculous.

ORIGINAL: perreault

life would be fun with a 2JZ sitting in a Civic.. make it rwd and the works and u got yourself a 19 pound(sarcasim) supra:O how fun and death defying


that'd be awesome...

i showed that to my friend and he was like 'nuh uh that wasnt a civic.' when i first got mine he was like 'dude whyd you get that? im getting a 350z and i will smoke your ass'

as if

Someone should have told the guy in the Supra they were racing.

Holy crap, this thread is allmost a year old. BTW that civic runs 9's and the supra could not touch it ;)

that civic could run 8's, and he wouldn't pull on that Supra like that even if it were STOCK.

The diff from a 60mph roll to 100mph, between a 9 sec car and a 12 sec car is about 60-75 feet.

The Supra wasn't racing.........

Go to CFT's website, that civic pulls over 700whp and only weighs about 2500lbs

You are not understanding my point.

My point is if that were an 8 sec car (which it isn't), it would not pull on a stock Supra like that.

When you see a vid of a "race" and it shows a car just toatly being left in the dust, the reason is the car wasn't racing.

I have watched the Vid 3-4 times, the civic, pulled 200 feet in less then 3 secs. That tells me the civic went from 60 to 11o or so, while the Supra stayed at 60.

The Supra wasn't racing.....

Trust me.

Hell you may be right

I was just watching a vid of a 06 Zo6 "racing" a 350z. As i recall they were going from a 70 roll. The z06 ATE THE 350z alive (which it obvioulsy would). The z06 pulled about 1/3 on that 350z, what that civic did.

Go to a track sometime and watch a 13 sec car race a 11 sec car. The slight distance between the two may? surprise you. Keep in mind that distance was established over the course of 13/11 secs. The distance (gap) we saw in that vid happened in 3 sec.......and teh civic didn't hook up (spun tires). Common sense would have said that while the civic was spinning for .5 secs, the Supra would have atleast stayed somewhat even, if only for a sec or so.

From what I have seen on the www the fast majority of home made vids of street races are bogus.

I am sure many folks have boasted of "killing" me, when I didn't even know we were racing.

Atleast once a mth. I'll have a modded car blow me off the line at a stop light, while the people in the back seat are laughing and giving high fives, over the fact they "killed" me in a race.

If I have the time, I will follow them. They almost always pull into a parking lot, because they think I am going to give them props on the "race". I simply hand them a schedule of the local autocross races, and tell them we would love to have them come out, and that all makes of cars are welcome, and we look forward to the fellowship, and opportunity to see them run on the track. (local car club rents a 1/4 mile oval track, beside a drag strip, we have full access to the tracks for the afternoon).

For what ever reason they never show up?

Maybe I shouldn't hit the line lock button, and leave them in a CLOUD of smoke as I exit the parking lot?

Amazing how much different a car sounds when it is actualy "racing"

holy thread from the dead batman!!!

ps. dont hate on the CFT civic. it will smoke your C5 any day

ORIGINAL: Nail I3unny

holy thread from the dead batman!!!

ps. dont hate on the CFT civic. it will smoke your C5 any day


Point: The supra wasn't racing.........honest.

Question: "smoke" my c-5 in what?

haha, you are ignorant buddy, real ignorant. Any built turbo'd civic hatch would own any stock TT supra in the 1/4 mile.

can you read?

It has already been established which car would be faster in a straight line from a roll. That is not being questioned by anyone in this thread. I suggest you dispute a comment I HAVE MADE, rather then attempting to "score" points about topics no one is disputing.
ORIGINAL: 97civicturbo

haha, you are ignorant buddy, real ignorant. Any built turbo'd civic hatch would own any stock TT supra in the 1/4 mile.

but an 8 second civic is all top end speed. if you put an 8 second civic against an 8 second Supra from, say, a 60-kick, the civic will walk it. most of the time a fast FWD wastes is getting off the line. once its rolling, it shines. but from-a-roll races are BS anyway. but since thats what the argument is about, i have to point out that in a top-end fight, a lightly modded Supra would get walked that bad by a 10 second civic. no doubt.

ORIGINAL: sacicons

but an 8 second civic is all top end speed. if you put an 8 second civic against an 8 second Supra from, say, a 60-kick, the civic will walk it. most of the time a fast FWD wastes is getting off the line. once its rolling, it shines. but from-a-roll races are BS anyway. but since thats what the argument is about, i have to point out that in a top-end fight, a lightly modded Supra would get walked that bad by a 10 second civic. no doubt.


sigh..........

have you ever seen a 8 sec Supra? be honest.

I'll try this again......... I'll even type real slow T-H-E......S-U-P-R-A......W-A-S-N'-T.........R-A-C-I-N-G.

Is that clear?

I am not saying the Supra was as fast, nor am I saying it's faster.

The civic pulled 200 feet in 3 sec. No car can pull that much, when for 1/6th of that time your tires are spinning, unless you are racing a pile of $hit, ((((( OR )))))) the other car isn't racing.

THE SUPRA WASN'T RACING!

BTW a 8 sec car is NOT all top end......... in fact I would say that a 8 sec car has a WORLD CLASS hole shot.

then you havent driven a really fast FWD. the 60 ft times are crap compared to the same ET RWD car.

and its funny how you can sit there and insist the Supra wasnt racing when you can clearly see the front of it come up under acceleration. and im sure a lot of guys videotape cars coming up next to them and taking off.

Common sense allows me to see the Supra wasn't racing for the full 3 secs.

sorry.......

That civic may be a world shaker and a 1/4 mile demon, and a street racing legend at this forum, but he didn't pull 200 feet on a supra in 3 sec.

That didn't happen.....

if a 10 second civic did a 60 kick on the freeway, that 110mph figure you threw out earlier is way too conservative. i mean a 14 second car that hits about 60mph at the 8th can get around 100 in about another 5 seconds. so a 10 second car can conceiveably hit well over 110 in a few seconds. i dont understand how you can sit there convincing yourself otherwise.

and count again, from the time they dropped the hammer, it was about 6 seconds till he even cleared the back bumper. and after that (while the civic was already moving faster and hooked up) in another 3 seconds, there were about 2-4 car lengths, no more. not 200 ft by any means.

ORIGINAL: sacicons

if a 10 second civic did a 60 kick on the freeway, that 110mph figure you threw out earlier is way too conservative. i mean a 14 second car that hits about 60mph at the 8th can get around 100 in about another 5 seconds. so a 10 second car can conceiveably hit well over 110 in a few seconds. i dont understand how you can sit there convincing yourself otherwise.



The rate of exceleration decreases as speeds increase.

So it was 114 mph..........happy?

Still doesn't change the fact the dude in the Supra was chillin...........and NOT racing.

The kid in civic damn near crashed trying to chase the Supra down.

Kid #1 "Dude.........it's a Supra, my uncle has one of those"

Kid #2 "cool..............you seen my mt dew, i dropped it"

Kid #1 "I am going to race him man.........hold on"

Kid #2 "cool.........hurry up I gotta pi$$"

Kid #1 "shut up Tommy, i am gonna kill this guy, he thinks he is so bad @ss, wait till he sees the power of a civic"

Kid#2 "cool.........pull up beside him, and rev your engine, that will show him........make sure your gauge lights are on, that looks so fly"

kid #1 "i think he heard me rev. little does he know, I am gonna toast him..........damn Supra"

kid #2 "when I count to 10 you go.........1,2, 3, 6, ummmmmmmmmm you seen my Mt Dew?"

Kid #1 "tommy you f#cktard, that's not how you do it, you beep 3 times then you race"

Kid #2"I knew that........what is a f#cktard?......hurry up I gotta pi$$"

kid#1"hold on......BEEP,BEEP,BEEP......ZOOMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA SUPRA MY @SS.......F#CKER!!!!!!!"

high 5's tommy, as Supra pulls up to him with a look of puzzlement on his face

funny post^

ORIGINAL: boatboatboat


ORIGINAL: sacicons

if a 10 second civic did a 60 kick on the freeway, that 110mph figure you threw out earlier is way too conservative. i mean a 14 second car that hits about 60mph at the 8th can get around 100 in about another 5 seconds. so a 10 second car can conceiveably hit well over 110 in a few seconds. i dont understand how you can sit there convincing yourself otherwise.



The rate of exceleration decreases as speeds increase.

So it was 114 mph..........happy?

Still doesn't change the fact the dude in the Supra was chillin...........and NOT racing.

The kid in civic damn near crashed trying to chase the Supra down.

Kid #1 "Dude.........it's a Supra, my uncle has one of those"

Kid #2 "cool..............you seen my mt dew, i dropped it"

Kid #1 "I am going to race him man.........hold on"

Kid #2 "cool.........hurry up I gotta pi$$"

Kid #1 "shut up Tommy, i am gonna kill this guy, he thinks he is so bad @ss, wait till he sees the power of a civic"

Kid#2 "cool.........pull up beside him, and rev your engine, that will show him........make sure your gauge lights are on, that looks so fly"

kid #1 "i think he heard me rev. little does he know, I am gonna toast him..........damn Supra"

kid #2 "when I count to 10 you go.........1,2, 3, 6, ummmmmmmmmm you seen my Mt Dew?"

Kid #1 "tommy you f#cktard, that's not how you do it, you beep 3 times then you race"

Kid #2"I knew that........what is a f#cktard?......hurry up I gotta pi$$"

kid#1"hold on......BEEP,BEEP,BEEP......ZOOMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA SUPRA MY @SS.......F#CKER!!!!!!!"

high 5's tommy, as Supra pulls up to him with a look of puzzlement on his face

huh??? those "kids" are like 30 years old man

huh??? those "kids" are like 30 years old man

my bad.

I assumed when I saw a street racing vid that it was "kids".

I know you shouldn't assume, and this is a classic reason why.

30 huh?

yikes........

mullets?

ORIGINAL: boatboatboat
mullets?


I freagin wish :D

why bother posting?

HAHA i knew this would happen.

oh yeah, just about every race oriented thread there is on here, some douchbag registers just to try to prove a piont wich is biased. its so old.

A tuner posted a vid of street racing?

yikes......

I have a pretty good hunch that before long they will be having a "going outa bizz sale"

They may be the #1 tuner in the world, and may build the best race cars in the world, BUT I can't fathom a bizz owner posting a street racing vid, and think that they are making a smart bizz decesion.

wow......

I see their www site has 3 street racing vids for the PUBLIC to view.

Oh my..........


In looking at their site, they have some VERY good prices for dyno tunes. I have no idea the quality if their work, but will assume they know what they are doing.

I can tell you for a full dyno tune along with a lap top street tune, and then a dyno re-tune, I normaly pay 350/400 dollars. The prices they have posted seem much cheaper.

do you have civic boatboatboat?

no I don't. I am old as dirt, and have out grown cars of that class.

BUT some of my fondest memories are messing with cars when I was much younger. When i was growing up, my "ride" was a pinto that that I duct taped a 302 into. It would fly. Broke
down 50% of the time hahahahaha. Reminds me of the majority of the "rides" i read about on here.


I am older then 99% of the people who post here, but I enjoy seeing people (kids) have fun with cars. Hell we would all have a stable of Super Cars if we could. I know I sure as he11 can't afford that. So you get what ever you can afford and you make the most of it you can. As you get older you get better and faster cars. But mark my words you BEST MEMORIES, will NOT be of the new off the floor show room screamer you bought as your "dream car", your BEST memories will be the piece of $hit, you modded and had fun with as you grew up.





ORIGINAL: 05 civic

do you have civic boatboatboat?

ORIGINAL: boatboatboat

no I don't. I am old as dirt, and have out grown cars of that class.

BUT some of my fondest memories are messing with cars when I was much younger. When i was growing up, my "ride" was a pinto that that I duct taped a 302 into. It would fly. Broke
down 50% of the time hahahahaha. Reminds me of the majority of the "rides" i read about on here.


I am older then 99% of the people who post here, but I enjoy seeing people (kids) have fun with cars. Hell we would all have a stable of Super Cars if we could. I know I sure as he11 can't afford that. So you get what ever you can afford and you make the most of it you can. As you get older you get better and faster cars. But mark my words you BEST MEMORIES, will NOT be of the new off the floor show room screamer you bought as your "dream car", your BEST memories will be the piece of $hit, you modded and had fun with as you grew up.




Very good post, I have fond memories of my 84 Old Cut Supreem, I guess that is why I just bought a 85 Regal :D

An older friend of mine when I was in HS (I was a soph he was a sr) had this mustard colored GRAN TORINO....... what a boat.

This thing was a beast. Pure stock, burned a qt. of oil about every 200 miles.

Anyhow, he would always pass the school bus (we lived in the country), like a ricer does a fly by now days.

One day he dropped his front left tire off the pavement as he passed the bus, as he jerked it back onto the road he slammed into teh side of the schoo, bus doing 45-50 mph.

Lord i rolled laughing.

He sold that pile, and bought a lime green pinto station wagon. I then bought my white hatchback (what a piece of crap). We both had about 2000 in our cars, and 3000 in the sound systems.......

I then put a 302 in mine...........and then he did the same.

We had some wild times.

I had that car until about 1983. At that point in time the VEttes were dogs.........real puppies. I loved doing fly bys on them.

Oh btw, i see you locked a thread I was posting in.

Damn.........

that sucks.

I will unlock it if it will stay civil

civel is such a broad term.........so hard to define.

Heck I thought things were going well, the way they were.

TRUST me, your PM box will be smoking if I start to REALLY TRY to upset people.

But I wouldn't do that......

well atleast not at first.

Locked is prolly best.

Jeez how does this thread have like 3000 views?

just be cool and stay with the facts, you said you were a bit older so I can expect you to not go off all half cocked talking **** so nomatter what others say I have no problem with a domestic owner such as myself being on here.

ORIGINAL: XCM828

Jeez how does this thread have like 3000 views?


lurkers that register and never post just to watch vids

ORIGINAL: XCM828

Jeez how does this thread have like 3000 views?


every civic owner in america has watched that vid. and will use it as proof they are faster then a Supra.

<gawd i hope I don't get banned>

latter.

I am gonna go shine my exhaust pipes, take a dump, eat a bowl of fruit loops, and watch the Jeffersons.

take care.

ORIGINAL: boatboatboat

A tuner posted a vid of street racing?

yikes......

I have a pretty good hunch that before long they will be having a "going outa bizz sale"

They may be the #1 tuner in the world, and may build the best race cars in the world, BUT I can't fathom a bizz owner posting a street racing vid, and think that they are making a smart bizz decesion.

wow......

I see their www site has 3 street racing vids for the PUBLIC to view.

Oh my..........


In looking at their site, they have some VERY good prices for dyno tunes. I have no idea the quality if their work, but will assume they know what they are doing.

I can tell you for a full dyno tune along with a lap top street tune, and then a dyno re-tune, I normaly pay 350/400 dollars. The prices they have posted seem much cheaper.


theyre not a buisness. well...not technically. theyre just a bunch of guys who got together to build cars, then started getting famous for 1) the fact that they have the worlds fastest N/A rotary and 2) their Si civic. then people wanted to get their cars tuned, so they started doing it to make money for their projects.

ahhhhhhhhhhhhh

well if they have asperations of having a legit bizz, they prolly should ditch the street racing vids.

Lawyer " you see ladies and gentelmen of the jury, not only did this tuner take this 16 year old childs car and install parts on it, to make it capable of going over 150 mph, they had vids on their web page which condoned street racing...........now I ask you, who are we to blame for the death of those people? 16 year old Chad who only wanted to do what he saw on TV and the movies........ or those people who took his money, and made his car unsafe for public streets........and then showed him vids of other customers cars, who were cool and raced on the street"

ORIGINAL: Vtec_On_FiRe

They look mid 20's....if that.....and mexican! haha


racism isnt tolerated here


You think that supra was actually pressing the pedal?


yeah. you could see it lurch when it took off. and you could hear the RPMs go up


Sorry guys, don't get your hopes up....your cars can beat Tc's or Xa's....maybe...


and a lot more when built. theres also a video out there of the CFT civic racing an SRT10 and destroying it. then theres a conversation between the civic driver and the viper driver and the viper driver is bewildered that its not juiced


Every car class has it's specialty vehicle..something that someone's spent a lot of their time and money. Go find a built supra, or a stock TT and actually ask him to touch the gas pedal. ha ha


arrogent as hell. anything can beat anything if enough time and money is put into it, not just supras or TTs.


He didn't just slap on a turbo and call it quits...there's thousands of dollars and a lot of knowledge that you kids coudln't dream of posessing.

also arrogent. lets see...B18C1...2.7k. Crower 4340 Billet Steel Stroker kit...2.3k. B16B head...500 bones. ITR exhaust cam and CTR intake cam...600 bucks. Full-Race 700whp turbo kit...4k. Head port&polish and valve job...800 bucks. Good Tune...1k.

thats a grand total of...drumroll please. 11k. considering the poverty line is at 20k a year...im sure most people could pull it off.


You can make any car fast, the fact that you people are busting a nut because someone flew past a supra (that wasn't even racing) is hilarious...


you have yet to prove that it wasnt racing. and that car is a nut busting car for ANY car...not just a civic.


Nothing makes me laugh more than 500 hp and almost half the torque...it's great....

how about 749hp and 538lb-ft?


Slap some cheap-o pansy nitrous and then maybe you can think you have a fast car...cause thats about all you people can do.....nitrous.....

you can do anything with any car


As for turbos, it's going to cost a lot to make big numbers.

you just contridicted yourself. you said all we can do is nitrous, then said we can turbo but it costs big money. well the fact is neither is true. you can get into the 13s on a bone stock D series engine and a turbo w/ a good tune for 3k tops


Incoming flames, birng em on.

you sir...are an arrogent douchebag who has no idea what the hell he is talking about, who joins forums to bust on the car that it represents to make up for your incredibly small ego and penis, and you deserve a swift and sure ban.

He has been takin care of.

what puzzles me is when i see a conversation and on one hand we have car X...........and on the other hand we have car Z.

Now car X is basicly stock............and car Z, has an engine that has been taken apart, put back togather with new componets, an induction system of some type, pcm adjustments made, the car has headers, and exhaust, and intake, and suspension mods galore.

Then car x races car Z..........and car Z wins. Then we hear "car Z is a so and so, and those type of cars are fast man..........real fast".

Ummmmmmmm it would seem to me, that what is fast are the combintaion of parts you put togather from Jeggs, and happened to put inside of a metal shell with car z's logo on the side.

You could take those same parts and install them into car X and now car X would be fast.

It would seem that after a point in time you are no longer racing car x vs car z..........you are racing page 39 in jeggs vs page 57 in jeggs.


See what i mean?

Whoa OK I hadn't actually watched the video until now, and it seems pretty obvious to me that they were racing. First off, at the beginning of the video it shows the supra racing another civic (it actually might just be a video from another car of the actual race later on in the video), so obviously the supra is out racing people. Second, they seem to know the guy since they have TroyB Supra come up on the video, so it wasn't just some random guy driving on the highway. Third, there's a guy in the supra holding a video camera, and fourth, the civic doesn't pull on the supra like you said. The supra hangs with the civic while it is spinning its tires, and for about 5 seconds after he shifts, and then the civic pulls on him like a mother, at which point I'm assuming he gives up and he really falls behind. Not to mention you can hear the supras motor while the civics tires are spinning.

OK I'm done, get back to talking about bizz's and Car X and whatnot.

We forget that the cost of Car Z to build is dramatically less than the cost of Car X stock. Car Z (civic) costs in area of 18k to build. Car X runs you in the 25k-30k range. THe point is that the Civic has a lot of potential.

I can't believe some of you missed something toy boat said. What was it, something about if they want to stay in business they probably shouldn't post videos about street racing. Wow I mean the movies are kinda silly, but I sure as **** wish I came up with the F@F movies about street racing because the PUBLIC ATE IT UP FOR BREAKFAST LUNCH AND DINNER. You've lost your marbles buddy, get on the ground and pick em up.

He's talking about affiliating his business with a very serious crime. F&F(note the and, it wasn't fast at the furious) was a movie, made by hollywood, and it was legal. It'd be like a gun store video taping itself selling weapons to terrorist and them putting it on their web. Good business choice?

ummmmmmmmmm

what has ALOT of potential are the parts bought in Jeggs and installed under a civic shell. that isn't a "civic" racing. It is page 49 of the jeggs catalog. Those parts might as well be installed on a John deer lawn tractor. Would that make the John Deer a "street" machine with potential?
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We forget that the cost of Car Z to build is dramatically less than the cost of Car X stock. Car Z (civic) costs in area of 18k to build. Car X runs you in the 25k-30k range. THe point is that the Civic has a lot of potential.

Many forums don't even allow "kill" stories to be discussed. The sponsers of the fourms have stated they are not willing to accept the potential for legal problems, if a reader buys parts from them and crashes while street racing.
ORIGINAL: 97civicturbo

I can't believe some of you missed something toy boat said. What was it, something about if they want to stay in business they probably shouldn't post videos about street racing. Wow I mean the movies are kinda silly, but I sure as **** wish I came up with the F@F movies about street racing because the PUBLIC ATE IT UP FOR BREAKFAST LUNCH AND DINNER. You've lost your marbles buddy, get on the ground and pick em up.

Check out this little story

A while back just down the road these 2 retards decided to do a lil street racing. One in a built Mustang and one in a Viper. Well they went tearing it up and came up on a intersection at around 130 to 140mph. The guy in the Viper backed off as the light was red and there was a car sitting there, well the guy in the Mustang did not because of the speed he was going he lacked the ability to see what was going on. To make a long story short the Mustang slammed into the back of a car at the redlight at 130mph, killing the driver and giving the passenger 3rd degree burns over 70% of her body. Both of the Girls in the car that was hit were 12th grade highschool students with 3.5+ GPA's and were very active in clubs and social gatherings in school. Also both were slated to be running for prom and homecoming queen, and both had full rides to a number of colleges. Well not anymore, the driver died on impact and the girl riding with here is luck to be alive.

Well the 2 drivers of the cars that were racing even the Viper that did slow down and got in no wreck are in court for 1 count of second degree murder and 1 count of attempted 2nd degree murder. You may ask why I told this story and how it pertains to thisa thread well I'm about to tell ya. The way these two got together was a local shops forum. On their forum people openly talked about what, when, where, and how they were going to street race. The Shop which has been around for a good 10 years profits droped I think like 40% and they were made to totally get rid of the whole forum.

Street racing to me is weak, if you think your car is so bad ass then take it to a track and prove it.

Good post.

Many great points there.

For those of you who don't know where you can "race" your car, do a web search. I think you will find that if staright line speed is your cup of the that vast majority of us live within an hour of a drag strip is that does test and tune nights where you can run 6-7 times for 20-30 bucks.

If learing to DRIVE a car is your cup of tea, do a web search for the local Vette or Porshe club. The majority of the time they will have 5-6 autocross events per year, and they welcome all makes to come and have a day at the track. You don't need to have a Vette or a Porshe, you only need to be 18 and have a helmet, and the desire to learn. Tons of fun.

Most people walk (drive) away feeling very humble about their lack of ability or lack there of. But stick around, and talk with people. You will find that most auto cross people are CAR LOVERS. They too were once 19 years old and driving a NON high performance car. They will be glad to assist you in any way possible. Quite often if you ask, you can get a ride around the course with one of the better drivers. It's fun.......

http://www.springmountainmotorsports.com/

great school. Beat on THEIR cars..........

worth every penny. You will learn more while there then you ever dreamed. Once home, you will be able to drive better then anyone you know. (well most of the time)

Hell my local drag strip lets us run all night from 6pm to 12am for $10, and it aint no crappy track either with a bunch of crappy cars out there. It is Bristol International dragway that is prepped just as if the topfuel cars were running and we have a good number of sub 10 second cars running every week.

Everyone just stop, my god. Street Racing is stupid, so is drinking, so is smoking pot, so is spending all your money on civics, so is not going to college, so is speeding. You could argue this point and that point forever. Did you know that the amount of people that die in street racing accidents is so low that its not even brought up at Drivers School to the 16 year olds? The risk of you dieing from a street racing accident is less likely than if you are driving to the store for groceries. Does that mean I condone it? Maybe, I know for fact that in the right environment street racing is only dangerous to the one doing it (i.e. car failure of you or the person you're racing against), which is the same risk if you're at the track. Yes there are idiots that do it on major highways and roads, yes this is stupid. So is the guy who beerbongs 15 beers at his frat and then falls out a 3rd story window. The university tightens its drinking laws becuase of the few retards who aren't responsible. Saying all street racing is stupid, or that everyone who does it is a "retard" is like saying all black people eat fried chicken, its a narrow minded point of view that leaves no room for discussion. Ever heard the phrase "guns don't kill people, people kill people?" Same EXACT subject here. The irresponsible person with the gun kills people, just like the irresponsible person behind the wheel can kill a person, regardless of street racing, drunk driving, or just not paying attention.

Somewhere in the area of 80% of the United States popluation live in suburban areas, we don't have tracks to go to each week, so I guess we better just not race at all....right?

right.

Street racing is stupid and dangerous no matter how you cut it.

It doesn't matter how many times you do it and not kill somebody sooner or later, you might. And even if one person dies from some retard wanting a thrill rush, its inexcusable.

ORIGINAL: 97civicturbo



Somewhere in the area of 80% of the United States popluation live in suburban areas, we don't have tracks to go to each week, so I guess we better just not race at all....right?



Moscow, Idaho Population 2000: 21,291

a whole group of people in YOUR area racing at tracks

http://www.spokanespeed.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3769

This response is to a post on page 3. You claimed the civic couldn't pull on the supra by 200 feet. Well lets do the math. Ready? Are you sure? Ok here goes...............Stock supra runs 13.5 rough estimate. That civic runs 9.5 Im using a stock supra because you stated that even if the civic ran an 8 it still couldn't pull like that on a STOCK supra, okay here goes. At the time the civic would cross the finish line, the supra would be going around 100 MPH, probably slower, but we'll use 100 because its easier for math. So 100MPH/60(min)= 1.67 MPM(miles per minute)/60 again= .028 miles per second X 5280(feet in a mile)= 147.84 feet per second. Now because the supra is still accellerating this number is going to keep going up for 4 seconds until the supra reaches the finish line. BUT the 100MPH I started with is VERY high. A 13.5 second car won't be going 100 MPH in 9.5 seconds, but to make you happy we'll use it. So where are we at now? We need to know how far away from the finish line the supra is, when the civic crosses the finish line. If we are at 9.5 seconds and the supra isn't going to finish for 4 more seconds we simply take the rate of speed of the supra (147.84) x 4 seconds= 591.36 feet. Tell me again why the civic couldn't be 200 feet ahead of the supra? The reason the civic pulled so hard the last half the race is simple. Obviously at launch the supra has the advantage, but after the civic gets grip AND hits its upper powerband range that is when it will pull and pull HARD on the supra. Now the 591.36 feet "might" be a little high, its not high enough to say the civic couldn't pull 200 feet.

for god's sake, this thread is really still alive after 2 years?

Nice find, I can drive four hours to go race, tell me something I don't know.

you are right those civics are a beast.

I have heard that Force racing will be going to that platform in the near future

4 hours? dude......... you are driving a civic. I am thinking an hour and a half max. He11 I can't imagine driving 175 across the Idaho country side would be a problem. Just watch out for cattle crossings.

hehe you make me smile when you post crap like that, because it just proves how ignorant you really are. :D

Well as long as you are smiling then it is all good.