RE: Fast eggs... how much $ to make?
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RE: Fast eggs... how much $ to make? - 9/22/2005 1:58:22 AM
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Kappa22
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Yeah. That's just what I am. I just sit here and talk s**t all day just to piss people like you off. I'm not here to talk s**t. I'm here to talk about cars, so please, enough with the desperate flaming.
My dad has been self employed as a mechanic for about 28 years. I grew up under the hood of a car. I'm part-owner of his business now.
Yes, I have done an F20C/RWD conversion in a 4G hatch. I'll even walk you through it, since it's so "impossible."
The car was shipped to us on a flatbed with no rear suspension and no drivetrain. The customer also bought and shipped an F20C front clip, driveline, and rear suspension that had been pieced together from wrecking yards, auto auctions, etc (all told, about $9,000 in parts). We started by sizing up the suspension as well as performing minor mods to the wheel wells in order to accomodate the parts, then took the measurements to a welder/machinist and had him custom-fab mounting brackets and adaptors in order to hang the suspension. Then we placed the rear diff, had part of the floor cut out to fit it in, and hung it, also with custom fabbed brackets and an additional crossmember. Next, we hung the rear axles, which turned out to be too long (the hatch isn't as wide as an S2K), so we went back to the machine shop and had the guy order a custom set. Then we started working under the hood. We tapped holes for the radiator bolts, reservoir mounts, etc. Then we went and measured for custom motor mounts and crossmembers. We trucked it to the welder and he cut out a section of the floor and firewall down the center of the car in order to accomodate the RWD tranny, after which we placed and measured for the tranny hangers and crossmembers. The guy welded in the new hangers, and we placed the tranny in a preliminary stance so we could finish the driveline. We took in the driveshaft, which was again too long, and had one custom-ordered. With that done, we placed the engine, and found we had to cut a section out of the front under the hood to allow it to clear the radiator. Hung the engine, bolted it up to the tranny and crossmember mounts. Sent it back to the machine shop in order to have them measure, mandrel, and hang a completely custom exhaust system. That's as far as we took it. The clutch, shift linkage, intake system, coolant hoses, rear brakes, etc. were all adapted by another shop, and they finished all the touchy-feely stuff. The car had no power steering or AC. They also added more crossmembers and strut and sway bars to compensate for the structural rigidity that was lost by cutting the floor open and taking a chunk out of the front.
So, what's the craziest build you've done lately?
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RE: Fast eggs... how much $ to make? - 9/22/2005 2:00:20 AM
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Marty
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I was throwing out budget minded products there bro you can on average get pistons for $250 to $350, rods for $400 or so, head studs for $100 and you really need nothing else as far as build and if I was to try and search a custom turbo kit out it would take more than internet links simply cause most the **** you get for them should be locaolly if you want to get a good deal on them.
You also forget(hell probly dont even know at all) that Toyota Supra stock pistons will fit into D series block with a slight mod to the rod. There is no need to sleeve a block unless you plan on running 25psi all the time on it. Just get your intake temps down with a lil nos or a devil's own meth-injection kit($100 or so) and you will be good.
I understand not wanting to do **** the cheap way but you have to draw a line at some point as to what a budget is and cheaper dont allways mean junk
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RE: Fast eggs... how much $ to make? - 9/22/2005 2:07:37 AM
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Marty
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I've done a 32v Northstar V8 into a 85 Pontiac Fiero and raced a 69 Nova putting it into the low 7's(1/8) when I was 17 so no need to judge my past. BTW I was saying that the FWD conversion could not be done not the 4g rwd conversion
Look I'm not trying to piss anyone off man, I just know what can be done and I also think it is stupid to be talking 10 second daily driver with either B or D series cause it is so impracticle it aint funny. Traction, Idle, and all out drive-ability would be a total loss in a civic like this. A week end toy yes, a daily driver IMO no
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RE: Fast eggs... how much $ to make? - 9/22/2005 2:10:43 AM
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Kappa22
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Yeah, I see what you're saying. The only reason we're even TALKING about a 10-sec daily driver is that's what he asked about... All I'm saying is that a B would be friendlier than a D in that situation.
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RE: Fast eggs... how much $ to make? - 9/22/2005 10:55:31 AM
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Marty
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It may be but man trust me you can get away cheaper with the D
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RE: Fast eggs... how much $ to make? - 9/22/2005 12:17:37 PM
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You ever watch a fight and don't want to break it up 'cause you might get hit? That's how I felt with these two (verbally speaking). Is it over yet? LOL!
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RE: Fast eggs... how much $ to make? - 9/22/2005 1:03:43 PM
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It never was a fight just 2 enthusiest with different points of view 
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