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ranom01 07-11-2007 09:58 PM

swap into a 1988 civic....b16a1/b18c hybrid with dual carb????
 
i got a 1988 civic with a D15B sohc dual carb and i want to put a biger engine in it pref a vtec, wats the best enigne for this

ranom01 07-11-2007 11:39 PM

RE: swap into a 1988 civic
 
iv dun some research and i want to put a h22a 2.2 vtec engine and 5 speed gearbox into it but im not sure if it will fit, will it??

Hailchristian 07-12-2007 03:57 PM

RE: swap into a 1988 civic
 
well...it has been done before, but ive read its a hard swap. One guy had a problem with his hood fitting and you have to realize how much wait that is in the front....if you dont have power steering its gunna be a fun time on those 3 pt turns. Ive been looking at it though and it seems highly possable and has been done....

ranom01 07-12-2007 04:26 PM

RE: swap into a 1988 civic
 
it has power stearing, at do u recomend then other people r saying to put a B16A1is that the best way to go??

Hailchristian 07-12-2007 04:31 PM

RE: swap into a 1988 civic
 
Yeah, i got the same thing when i asked what engine to put in my 88....the b16a1 just fits all nice and dandy and everything....

this site had a lot of really good information on swaps and what the problems are for all of them

Ef swap info

as well as here was the site with h22 swap i found

h22 ef swap

ranom01 07-12-2007 08:59 PM

RE: swap into a 1988 civic
 
watif i just change the head and make it dohc fuel injected?

ranom01 07-16-2007 02:14 AM

RE: swap into a 1988 civic
 
ok i might be able to get my hands on a b16a2 short block without the hear for next to nothing, wud that fit nice and fill it bolt onto the d15b gearbox??

Hailchristian 07-16-2007 08:59 AM

RE: swap into a 1988 civic
 
i dont think so..im pretty sure you need a b16 tranny.....but dont quote that.

ranom01 07-16-2007 11:56 AM

RE: swap into a 1988 civic
 
wud it be a nice engine to use tho?

Hailchristian 07-16-2007 01:10 PM

RE: swap into a 1988 civic
 
yeah, a b16a2 has an extra 10 hp than the a1 and if you can find an a1 tranny...it would bolt right on and and then you wouldnt have to convert to hydrolic or anything....or you can find a a2 trans but then your faced with the converting your car to the hydrolic transmission type..

ranom01 07-16-2007 09:59 PM

RE: swap into a 1988 civic
 
sweet as is there anything else i need to get

ranom01 08-01-2007 01:53 AM

RE: swap into a 1988 civic
 
hi agian, i just brought a b16a1 engine and im goin to rebuild it with a b18c head and a turbo, but my car started with a carb rather than injectors so can i make a custom intake that will take the dual carbs off the d15b engine and still hav the turbo???

jamned 01-29-2008 11:08 AM

RE: swap into a 1988 civic
 
Dang, this is an old post. Still, I'll comment on what I know.

I have an '87 civic with a D15A2, which is carbureted. I thought about doing a swap to convert it to FI civic. I realized that this job would require more than just swapping the engine, adding an ECU and wiring, and a fuel rail to run. For one thing, my D15A2 has a mechanical fuel pump, which feeds directly off the camshaft/distributor. I'd have to install an electric fuel pump on top of the gas tank. I haven't checked how my gas tank looks--it might be compatible with an electric gas pump. If not, then I'll need to drop the fuel tank and put in one from a fuel injected car. I'm pretty sure I'd have to replace the existing fuel lines as they probably weren't made to withstand the high fuel pressures typical with fuel injection. This would include the fuel lines running from the gas tank to the engine bay!!!

To answer your question, ranom (in case you haven't found out already, and for others who might be wondering), you can make a turbo carbureted car. You're going to have to make modifications to the carburetor or get a new one, as it has limited size fuel jets. At higher rpms, you'd be sending a lot more air into the engine than fuel (running lean), which would be very bad.

A critical step in turbo installations is tuning your car so that your air/fuel mixture remains in a relatively safe region. From what I understand, this is typically slightly richer than stoichiometric (stoichiometric is a perfect match of air/fuel for 100% burn). You want this type of mixture because stoichiometric burn would be too hot for the materials in the engine, burning the valves and possibly causing head gasket damage (I'm not sure what else happens as a result of overheating). A slightly rich mixture leaves a small amount of fuel unburned to absorb heat and send it out the exhaust. Tuning a FI car means running it on a dyno and adjusting the ECU settings. Tuning a carbureted car means changing the carburetor fuel jet sizes to provide the right mixtures of fuel at different RPMS...I'm not sure entirely how you go about doing this. Changing the fuel jets means taking apart the carburetor, though.

DannyH22 08-24-2014 01:49 PM

I'm looking to swap a B18B engine in my 88 civic what do I have to do ??


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