Should I buy this Hatch?
 

Its a 1993 honda civic Hatch. He is asking 9000 for it but i bet i could get him down to 7500 or 8000 maybe. What do yall think...Opinions please...

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RE: Should I buy this Hatch?
 

wow that hatch is clean as a whistle.

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Yeah thats what i said..Im trying to look at it this weekend...Should i buy it?..

RE: Should I buy this Hatch?
 

How many miles does it have? What are the different mods (looks like turbo and some other aftermarket parts from pic)? Did you ask him why he's selling it? No matter how nice a car looks you never know unless you dig deep. Get the pin number also.

If that car has more than 100 thou I wouldn't buy it for that price.

RE: Should I buy this Hatch?
 

holy cow that is a clean hatchback!!! i would drive it just to double check if there are any problems

RE: Should I buy this Hatch?
 

93 Civic Hatch

Exterior:
-Painted Nissan 350Z Daytona Blue. Car was completely stripped and then redone. All body panels were pulled(fenders, doors, hatch, glass, etc). Everything has been base/clear coated in Daytona blue. All jambs have been base coat/clear coated including, trunk, doors, and bottom of hood. Entire engine bay was also base/cleared. The exterior of the car is perfect with no dints or dings. There are no rock chips out of the paint on the front either. $3300

-5% tint on all the side glasses and the rear hatch (lifetime warrantee on it) $200
-Aftermarket rims
-Smaller sport mirrors color matched to the car
-JDM Thin Side Moldings base/cleared to match the car $200
-New window sill moldings
-Shaved rear emblems and key hole for the hatch. Shaved rear wiper arm/motor
-Every bolt in the engine bay has been replaced with polished stainless.
-Clear corner lenses


Engine short block: $2500 with blue printing and assembly
-D16y8 low mile block
-CP Pistons
-Crower Rods
-ARP head studs
-Crank crack checked, micropolished, and balanced
-New bearings
-New water pump
-New d16z6 oil pump – The y8 pumps are not that great to run on built set ups. Therefore the z6 pump was chosen. Because the y8 normally has the oil dipstick on the pump, a custom oil dip stick was fabbed to check the oil level with this set up.
-New Honda timing belt and tensioner
-New alternator belt
-Alternator rebuilt
-All new seals / gaskets
-Poly engine mounts

Head: $2600 with assembly
-D16Z6 head $129
– hot tanked and glass beaded $74
– resurfaced $150
-Brand new OEM distributor $239
-Zex 59300 cam $250
-AEM adjustable cam gear $147
-Ported and polished $540
-Zex Valve Springs $182
-Zex Titanium Retainers $243
-Upgraded Locks $71
-Competition valve job $270
-New Ferrea valve seals $50
-New vtec solenoid $125
-NGK Wires

Turbo set up: $3944
-Custom one off top mount manifold $1200
-ceramic coated to keep the heat in the pipes and out the engine bay $155
-Precision SC61 turbo $899
- turbo has been show polished on the cold side and ceramic coated on the hot
side $150
-Front mount intercooler rated for 500 hp
-2.5” one off intercooler pipes – mandrel bent tubing and tig welded
-Silicone couplers / t bolt clamps $80
-Tial 50mm blow off valve $233
-Turbonetics Manual boost controller $86
-Turbonetics thick turbo gasket $16
-Billet oil drain 10an adapter block $25
-Stainless braided 10an drain line
-Stainless braided 4an feed line $100 for the feed and drain line kit
-Turbonetics race gate wastegate(overkill but its what I had left over from another project) $400
-3” one off intake pipe that pulls air from the driver fog light hole in the bumper
-K&N style air filter

Exhaust: $650
-Full 3” turbo back exhaust - mandrel bent and tig welded. Down pipe ceramic coated silver($75) All exhaust, including the muffler and resonator, from the down pipe back is -ceramic heat coated flat black.
-3” stainless flex section
-3” in/out resonator
-3” in/out Dyno Max straight through muffler
-Down pipe also heat wrapped to keep more heat out of the engine bay $20
-5 Bolt / 3 bolt flanges and gaskets for exhaust connections $55

ECU / Tuning / Fuel:
-P28 chipped, clear Plexiglas ecu cover $195
-Tuning $450
-Motorola 2.5 bar map sensor $25
-Brand new OEM Honda oxygen sensor $65
-1000cc injectors $392
-Impedance conversion for injectors $15
-Walbro 255 Fuel pump $100
-New OEM Fuel Filter

Transmission: $1300 w/o install cost for the LSD
-Low mile Ex 5 speed close ratio transmission
-Complete rebuild
-All new bearings
-OBX LSD installed in transmission at time of rebuild
-ACT Xtreme pressure plate with 6 pad disk
-The clutch drives great. It does not chatter at all and holds the power perfectly.
-Short shifter
-Poly shifter bushings
-New Slave and Master Cylinder

Cooling:
-160 deg. Thermostat
-Upgraded cooling fan with fan shroud
-All new radiator hoses
-New Waterpump
-New OEM Del Sol Vtec dual pass radiator

Powdercoated mirror gloss black: $660 total
-Valve cover $85
-Water pump hard tubes $15
-Battery tray $35
-Intake pipe $50
-Intercooler pipes $140
-Intake manifold $125
-Fuel filter bracket $15
-Coolant bottle bracket $15
-Thermostat housing $15
-Oil pan $80
-Battery hold down bracket $15
-Other small random engine bay brackets/bolts $70 total

-Every bolt in the engine bay replaced with polished stainless or powdercoated black, unless it was not realistic to coat them (oil pan bolts, shock nuts, a few other bolts)

Suspension:
-New ball joints in front suspension
-Ingals front camber kit, rear shimmed with new grade 8.8 bolts to fix camber
-Ground control coil overs on the rear and custom rate drop springs on the front
-Car was just aligned by Ron Ellis – front and rear
-New Front brakes installed
-Every part on the suspension has been removed, inspected, and replaced if needed.

Interior:
-Converted to black interior from light grey color:
-Door panels
-Dash
-Carpet
-Seats
-Center console
-Seat belts
-Door sills
-Various other trim pieces
-Autometer oil pressure, autometer boost/vac, and a no name water temp gauge.
-Bride steering wheel…driver and pass. air bags have been removed from the car


Other Info:
-Under the carpet, all the interior floor metal has been redone in chassis black while the car was apart. I just thought I would include that since some people strip everything out their cars out for weight savings. The car should be under 2000 lbs easily w/ no air bags, no ac,no power steering, and crank windows.

-My amp, sub, etc. will not be included with the car since they came out of one of my other cars temporarily.

-The engine was tuned to be reliable for roughly 350 hp for pump or 450 hp for race gas. I would rather have a safe tune and leave some power on the table.

-This car was built from an empty shell. Every part has been redone on the car. After finishing all of the work it has only had 1000-2000 miles put on it. The car runs and drives great. It’s a quick fun car but I simply don’t have the time to enjoy it and could use some money to pay for college. I really hate to sell it after all the time I put in it but college is more important. I have pictures to document the entire build and pictures to verify the internals of the engine. I have most all of the receipts for every part on the car.

-I spent a lot of time making this list so that you would know exactly what you are getting. I’ve tried to list the price for all of the major things on the car. As you can see I have roughly $19,000 in parts on the car w/o the install or labor costs. I’m asking $9000 obo for it. If you have any offer, email me. You won't offend me, like some people get. If you have any other questions feel free to ask me.

RE: Should I buy this Hatch?
 

cleeeeeeeeean

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Wow, that sounds pretty good. That car has more stuff than I thought by the pics. I was kinda drooling reading that list lol.

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yeah when i was reading it just kept going..My eyes got like bigger and bigger...Cuz im only 18 so you know im still young.But yeah i hope i can see it this weekend...More opinions wanted...

RE: Should I buy this Hatch?
 

lifes' short. buy what you want.

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Yeah i know that..i mean look at my car now..its what i wanted..HAHA..but i just wanted some opinions on it so i know if its worth it or not..

RE: Should I buy this Hatch?
 

the time to have obnoxiously sick cars is in high school and when you're much older

in other words, that would NOT be practical for me as a poor college student who has to park his car on the street. lots of new dings and scratches THIS SEMESTER alone. so if you're headed to college soon and will be driving that, you may want to rethink this.

if you're going to have something else, or are commuting to college (if that's where you're headed next) from home where you have a garage to put that clean looking hatchy in, GO FOR IT

I'm not trying to harsh your gig...that's a sick as **** car. please get that thing if it makes sense. someone who will treat it right deserves it. it's a beautiful machine.

RE: Should I buy this Hatch?
 

I think it looks great and I would love to have one of those!

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I like the car and i think its worth the 9000, but I would rather build my own ride from scratch rather to buy someone elses work. either way very nice and clean hatch. Go for it. make sure you buy a beater to...lol

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ya, i prefer the other direction myself. Buy a cheap used car do some mods to it myself that way I know exactly whats in it and how old parts are that I add. But thats just me...... that car is sweet and is def fully loaded If you got the cash and can afford it (keeping it up with tunes and stuff) Get it.

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^ +1 I also like the fact of buying a semi-beatin down car and building it up....seem to get more pride out of it. But like everyone else is saying, it is a clean car, and if you don't want to hassle with building a project car, pick it up.

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Thanks to everyone for yall's opinions. And i will be going to college next year. But im not to worried about the exterior of it that much, because if i bought it i would want to change the paint with in 2 years. But yeah i also would much better start off on my own. But i can not find any hatchs that are cheap. But i will let everyone know what i do. Thanks again guys.

RE: Should I buy this Hatch?
 

i dont like the rims, change those and you should be good to go for what you are gonna ask him

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RE: Should I buy this Hatch?
 

very cool hatch. the rims are horrible though..they look cheap. Maybe some bronze volks? ;p

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Okay thanksdanomatic93, but yeah if i got it i would change the rims and lower it a little more...

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Get it. I don't think you'll regret it. Talk him down to 8000, I almost want to offer this guy 8000 for it ;)
Just don't kill yourself street racing, but that's another topic for another thread.

RE: Should I buy this Hatch?
 

Do it!

I lost my chance to get my first hatch when I decided to buy a motorcycle instead. I still think about that hatch, dang.

Then I bought this HX a year ago after I sold my bike, and about a month ago I was in the same place as you, was going to sell the 96HX for $2000 b/c I found a clean hatch...I moved too slow on it and lost out on a very very clean and mildly hooked up 95 VX w/ only 114K on it for $2900...I'm in VA too and its hard to find a clean eg hatch (dont worry I wont creep on your ride I dont have 8 grand to spend) good luck

RE: Should I buy this Hatch?
 

doit. dont even bother with the miles. just change the waterpump and timing belt and ul be straight.

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Pff not at our school. We have jackasses that key cars. Over 10 cars have been keyed in the past 2 school years. I know that's not many but when you have like 100 cars in the parking lot, you know.

RE: Should I buy this Hatch?
 

why not? like i said before drive it and make sure its not making any noises or anything else.

RE: Should I buy this Hatch?
 

how much horsepower is it putting down??

oh, and a 92 hatch was my first car... i thought it was amazing the first time i saw it...
turns out whoever did the engine swap didnt swap the computers, and there was many problems too... many expensive problems...
so get the car inspected first, just to be on the safe side...
i lost $5000 on my civic, and i hate to see you lose $8000....
just my 2 cents...

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sorry bro. not to be a jerk, but college is worse. my old accord was keyed in high school. whoopdef-ingdo, I touched it up in about fifteen minutes. someone got up on top of my civic and crushed in my roof and pissed on my sunroof in college...one grand + and it took me four months to save it.

how's that grab you bub? **** happens. enjoy the mild reporaches found in parking your car in a garage or on the driveway at your parent's house while you can. besides, if you're under 18, you got fists. not saying it's the right thing, but that's how I solved my keying incident.

Sorry to hijack your thread. If the paint and the way it looks is not a problem for you, please get that car. It's looking so good that it'd be hard to pass something like that up. Just realize that colleges is hard on cars. Also, you'll probably need to run higher octane gas in it, and the constant tweaking that goes with a built and turboed car is going to be hard.

Make a checklist of things you want to look at/for when you're looking at the car. dentinger is right; be careful with your investment. It's a great looking car, and the prospect of buying it is going to be a real rush. Keep your head clear. Ask the questions that you need to ask and look at the things you really want to look at. No seller is going to be angry with you for being really anal about the car. Chances are good in this situation that the seller is going to LIKE the fact that you're anal about the car. Clearly, he was too.

RE: Should I buy this Hatch?
 

worth it (Y)

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Yeah i really understand where your coming from here...and my dad thinks the same thing. He wants me to get a Jeep and lift it since im giong to college next semster. But i dont know im still young and i like to have something that looks good and has good gas millage. but idk