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br00tal 09-03-2008 12:03 AM

Vtec question
 
How much does Vtec really matter? For example if two cars were to race one vtec and the other non vtec? Sorry for such a n00b quesiton

C-lo 09-03-2008 07:28 AM

It depends on the Vtec haha, if you race a non-vtec D16Y7 stock against a stock b18c1 vtec stock then you are getting raped. But a D16Y7 (1996-2000 DX/LX, etc.) against a D16Y8 (1996-2000 EX) it would likely be a drivers race if both were manual, if one was auto it would lose, the EX has more power but it's heavier it may be more likely to win but a stock DX would hold its own against a stock EX. Basically you would probably want to choose Vtec given the option, unless you're going to turbo maybe, but the engines without Vtec are great and well engineered too

trustdestruction 09-03-2008 11:43 AM

It matters and adds hp and all, but in the end it all comes down to how much HP the car has total. for example, a 200hp turbo non-VTEC D16Y7 will beat a stock D16Y8 (vtec) or B16A2 (vtec) or B18C1 (vtec) or other various motors

yea, another example could be the opposite of what C-lo said.
put a stock D16Y8 SOHC VTEC against a B18 DOHC non-VTEC and the non-VTEC will win.

br00tal 09-03-2008 06:41 PM

Sweet thanks guys! because I might be getting a new car and I don't know if I should get one with or without!

hiredassasin19 09-03-2008 08:40 PM

what about vtec-e, just curious cause i got a 99 hx D16y5

trustdestruction 09-03-2008 09:02 PM


Originally Posted by hiredassasin19 (Post 586768)
what about vtec-e, just curious cause i got a 99 hx D16y5

VTEC-E is better than a comparable engine without vtec like the D15B7 or D16Y7, but is not as good as regular VTEC.

In terms of VTEC, you can only compare VTEC on comparable engines, in 2 or more different classes, for example: SOHC and DOHC.
it's hard to compare a B18 (DOHC) non-VTEC to a D16Y8 VTEC (SOHC) because the difference between SOHC and DOHC is a large factor.

VTEC-E is mainly for fuel economy, but also is good for a little more HP.

Consider the following for example:

HP/TQ
good: D16Y7 (non-VTEC) [106HP, 103ft-lb]
better: D16Y5 (VTEC-E) [115HP, 104ft-lb]
best: D16Y8 (VTEC) [127HP, 108ft-lb]

FUEL ECONOMY
good: D16Y8 (VTEC) [127HP, 108ft-lb]*
better: D16Y7 (non-VTEC) [106HP, 103ft-lb]*
best: D16Y5 (VTEC-E) [115HP, 104ft-lb]

*these two are pretty close on MPG

texasmade 09-04-2008 06:12 PM

yeah if u have a choice deff get vtec if its single cam its not gonna help a whole lot but everything helps rite lol

KW_Welder 09-04-2008 06:26 PM

Whats the noob way to tell if its Vtec er not. My salesman said it is Vtec but it don't so on the side like some do.

trustdestruction 09-04-2008 06:31 PM

i'm telling you man it's VTEC. just because it's not engraved on the valve cover means nothing

anyway, look for this on the back of the head, on the passenger side

http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i3...ECSOLENOID.jpg

NIKE H34D 09-04-2008 07:21 PM


Originally Posted by trustdestruction (Post 587067)
i'm telling you man it's VTEC. just because it's not engraved on the valve cover means nothing

anyway, look for this on the back of the head, on the passenger side


Lol trust would be the one to put that pic up there, in that picture why does it look like it says Vtak lol they couldnt take a lil time and do some decentwriting or wat dam


and dont forget to tell him.... ITS NOT GREEN lol i thought it was green at first


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