i blew something but what is it
#11
RE: i blew something but what is it
ORIGINAL: asianboy
...before i screwed it up today, the temp was just awesome.
could the messed up head gasket cause the temp to go up?
if it does, how does that happen?
...before i screwed it up today, the temp was just awesome.
could the messed up head gasket cause the temp to go up?
if it does, how does that happen?
also why did my friend ask me if what the temp was on the top hose and the bottom was?
before this, no odd smoke.
just smelled kinda rich from the engine bay. like there was extra fuel burning or not burning.
ill check for smoke tomorrow but as far as i can remember i didnt notice any smoke.
what does that mean if no smoke?
what does it mean if there is smoke?
what does the different colors mean?
just smelled kinda rich from the engine bay. like there was extra fuel burning or not burning.
ill check for smoke tomorrow but as far as i can remember i didnt notice any smoke.
what does that mean if no smoke?
what does it mean if there is smoke?
what does the different colors mean?
Blue smoke = oil burning (bad rings or valve seals, or blown head gasket)
No smoke = not highly informative
should i get a brand new head gasket from honda or do you guys recommend elsewhere?
i need something that is very strong at this point. also should i get anything else new before i spend a couple of days opening it up open it up?
i need something that is very strong at this point. also should i get anything else new before i spend a couple of days opening it up open it up?
i was thinking ill need to pull out he pistons, one by one to inspect them.
if i have a compression leak at this point whats the way to fix it?
if i have a compression leak at this point whats the way to fix it?
#12
RE: i blew something but what is it
ORIGINAL: addiction2bass
if it was just the thermostat the motor would have ran fine but the temp would have sky rocketed overheating the motor which is very bad!!!! ive never had one seem to bog down frrom a stuck thermostat...
if it was just the thermostat the motor would have ran fine but the temp would have sky rocketed overheating the motor which is very bad!!!! ive never had one seem to bog down frrom a stuck thermostat...
#13
RE: i blew something but what is it
thanks guys.
take out oil then coolant first.
inspect plugs. pretty much everything is new so if there is a change ill notice it.
i have seen many take out the thermostat here.
should i just take it out to be safe for the future?
im in socal so its usually just hot here.
i forgot to list all the new stuff i just put in it.
i didnt even get to put on 100 miles yet. hahah on me.
new:
ngk spark plugs.
ngk plug wires
thermostat, thats if the shop really did install it.
water pump.
oil pump.
bottom and top all the gaskets and any O-rings.
timing belt.
regrind cam shaft.
cam gear, unorthodox.
cp piston
eagle rods.
supertech valves,
sping,
retainers.
ARP head bolts.
RACE bearings.
i just tried to make sure when i did this i did it right. i change what i knew and upgraded where i needed.
i never tried to skimp out on anything i do. do it right or dont dont do it at all, i usually say.
but tuning was the next step after i ran the break in period. i would have done the tune if they advised me to.
oh well now ill just take it all apart and see after the oil and coolant inspection.
oh you guys said to see what smoke it is. so should i try to start it up again?
take out oil then coolant first.
inspect plugs. pretty much everything is new so if there is a change ill notice it.
i have seen many take out the thermostat here.
should i just take it out to be safe for the future?
im in socal so its usually just hot here.
i forgot to list all the new stuff i just put in it.
i didnt even get to put on 100 miles yet. hahah on me.
new:
ngk spark plugs.
ngk plug wires
thermostat, thats if the shop really did install it.
water pump.
oil pump.
bottom and top all the gaskets and any O-rings.
timing belt.
regrind cam shaft.
cam gear, unorthodox.
cp piston
eagle rods.
supertech valves,
sping,
retainers.
ARP head bolts.
RACE bearings.
i just tried to make sure when i did this i did it right. i change what i knew and upgraded where i needed.
i never tried to skimp out on anything i do. do it right or dont dont do it at all, i usually say.
but tuning was the next step after i ran the break in period. i would have done the tune if they advised me to.
oh well now ill just take it all apart and see after the oil and coolant inspection.
oh you guys said to see what smoke it is. so should i try to start it up again?
#14
RE: i blew something but what is it
just did a quick inspection. i wont have time or space till next week or so to totally break it down.
took the dipstick out, the oil seemed ok.but when i took the oil cap off, it had a milky residue stuck on top.
im guessing the dip stick is only taking the top of the oil pan and coolant is probably heavier then oil. so its sinking down to the bottom.
so far the oil might be mixing with coolant.
the major damage is instant i assume when this happens or does it need more time to damage the components?
the timing belt looks worn on the side.
im not sure if that means anything.
took the dipstick out, the oil seemed ok.but when i took the oil cap off, it had a milky residue stuck on top.
im guessing the dip stick is only taking the top of the oil pan and coolant is probably heavier then oil. so its sinking down to the bottom.
so far the oil might be mixing with coolant.
the major damage is instant i assume when this happens or does it need more time to damage the components?
the timing belt looks worn on the side.
im not sure if that means anything.
#15
RE: i blew something but what is it
so should i try to start it up again?
#16
RE: i blew something but what is it
oil = look to see if coolant is there, which it is, most likeyly.
coolant = look to see if oil is there. most if not all the coolant is gone because of it shooting out of the reservouir area.
spark plugs = not sure what too look for.
timing belt = not sure sure what too look for. i guess just look to see if it jump a tooth?
water pump = its new, what would i be looking for there?
do you think the bearing are fried too?
what am i looking for on the bearings, to know if they are damaged or not?
the bearings are new too so im not sure if they were able to survive this.
coolant = look to see if oil is there. most if not all the coolant is gone because of it shooting out of the reservouir area.
spark plugs = not sure what too look for.
timing belt = not sure sure what too look for. i guess just look to see if it jump a tooth?
water pump = its new, what would i be looking for there?
do you think the bearing are fried too?
what am i looking for on the bearings, to know if they are damaged or not?
the bearings are new too so im not sure if they were able to survive this.
#17
RE: i blew something but what is it
ORIGINAL: asianboy
oil = look to see if coolant is there, which it is, most likeyly.
coolant = look to see if oil is there. most if not all the coolant is gone because of it shooting out of the reservouir area.
spark plugs = not sure what too look for.
timing belt = not sure sure what too look for. i guess just look to see if it jump a tooth?
water pump = its new, what would i be looking for there?
do you think the bearing are fried too?
what am i looking for on the bearings, to know if they are damaged or not?
the bearings are new too so im not sure if they were able to survive this.
oil = look to see if coolant is there, which it is, most likeyly.
coolant = look to see if oil is there. most if not all the coolant is gone because of it shooting out of the reservouir area.
spark plugs = not sure what too look for.
timing belt = not sure sure what too look for. i guess just look to see if it jump a tooth?
water pump = its new, what would i be looking for there?
do you think the bearing are fried too?
what am i looking for on the bearings, to know if they are damaged or not?
the bearings are new too so im not sure if they were able to survive this.
Look for oil or other fouling of the spark plugs, comparing those in cylinders 1-4.
Look for any damage of the timing belt and whether it is off by one or more teeth. Check whether the water pump spins freely or is leaking.
Check whether the crank pulley turns freely or is locked up.
#18
RE: i blew something but what is it
ya milky residue means you definatly have radiator fluid in the oil system.... needless to say definatly have to pull the head and hopefully like he said its just the head gasket and nothing else broke.... check the block and head to ensure it didnt warp any with a straight edge and a good eye on both! if they warped then ya got more $$ to spend to have the warped parts decked flat again. tho im not sure about if youd need to use some spacers of some kind to compensate for the shaved off warped part for clearance or what not... youd have to talk to the head/block shop about that if it is warped.
#19
RE: i blew something but what is it
no problem pulling the head.
a bit of work but i dont mind its a learning process.
im still not too good at doing the timing belt.
its hard to see where the line is on the balancer and the cam gear.
and while the engine is still on the car.
if the coolant has oil, would that just tell me the same thing the coolant is in the oil area?
anyone of you knowledgable guys located in socal?
just seeing if someone can teach me how to realign the timing belt.
a bit of work but i dont mind its a learning process.
im still not too good at doing the timing belt.
its hard to see where the line is on the balancer and the cam gear.
and while the engine is still on the car.
if the coolant has oil, would that just tell me the same thing the coolant is in the oil area?
anyone of you knowledgable guys located in socal?
just seeing if someone can teach me how to realign the timing belt.