Wow.. there goes my car.
Just put a new engine in it. That would be cheaper than purchasing a new car, if your can do the work yourself. Just take your time and do everything right.
And yet another quick question.. if the vehicle started and ran fine before I even attempted to replace the clutch (no smoke, no noticeable problems running what so ever), I half-assed putting it back together, tried starting it a couple of times with failed attempts, and then took it to the shop and had them tell me it had timing problems, does it mean they were the ones who would have had to have messed something up? Is there any way to prove this?
Somehow without running a compression test, and without the vehicle in starting condition (or so I thought), the spark plugs wired in the wrong order, and other issues, the shop determined there was a timing problem. I'm thinking they did the car in by "over attempting" (for lack of a better word) to start it. Another problem they mentioned was the spark plugs "looked like they were burning oil". I have never seen any signs of this while driving the vehicle nor working on it. Can someone inform me of how this is possible?
Somehow without running a compression test, and without the vehicle in starting condition (or so I thought), the spark plugs wired in the wrong order, and other issues, the shop determined there was a timing problem. I'm thinking they did the car in by "over attempting" (for lack of a better word) to start it. Another problem they mentioned was the spark plugs "looked like they were burning oil". I have never seen any signs of this while driving the vehicle nor working on it. Can someone inform me of how this is possible?
Last edited by taylorisafop; Mar 11, 2009 at 04:03 AM.
And yet another quick question.. if the vehicle started and ran fine before I even attempted to replace the clutch (no smoke, no noticeable problems running what so ever), I half-assed putting it back together, tried starting it a couple of times with failed attempts, and then took it to the shop and had them tell me it had timing problems, does it mean they were the ones who would have had to have messed something up? Is there any way to prove this?
Somehow without running a compression test, and without the vehicle in starting condition (or so I thought), the spark plugs wired in the wrong order, and other issues, the shop determined there was a timing problem. I'm thinking they did the car in by "over attempting" (for lack of a better word) to start it. Another problem they mentioned was the spark plugs "looked like they were burning oil". I have never seen any signs of this while driving the vehicle nor working on it. Can someone inform me of how this is possible?
Somehow without running a compression test, and without the vehicle in starting condition (or so I thought), the spark plugs wired in the wrong order, and other issues, the shop determined there was a timing problem. I'm thinking they did the car in by "over attempting" (for lack of a better word) to start it. Another problem they mentioned was the spark plugs "looked like they were burning oil". I have never seen any signs of this while driving the vehicle nor working on it. Can someone inform me of how this is possible?
You can certainly accuse the mechanic; however, if he denies the allegation and argues instead that you caused the engine damage, how can you possibly prove otherwise? In other words, if you were asking a third unbiased party to rule on this dispute, what convincing evidence do you have to support your viewpoint?
Have you yet taken the time to discuss this matter with the mechanic? This would certainly be the first step to resolve the issue.
doing an engine overhaul is not that difficult. If you have the correct tools then it shouldnt be too bad. I've done one before and plan on doing mine here shortly. If you don't have the correct tools, do not attempt to do it, you can cause more damage. In addition, you should get a Haynes or OEM service manual
I have the CHILTON on it, and it does describe the engine overhaul procedure pretty well, however, at the current moment I'm looking to force the mechanic into fixing the vehicle as I believe he was the one who had caused the damages.
I mean really how do you put evidence down on a vehicle that has entered a shop? This is what I know: Many people, including myself, knew the vehicle ran before anything was taken off the vehicle. After I remounted the transmission, it would not kick over, but only made a sound like the starter was rotating. Therefore, I let it alone and went on to take it to a shop so that it would not have any further issues. Upon arriving after the first hour or so of diagnostic at the shop, they claimed it had timing issues. I specifically told them when I brought the vehicle in that it was not pieced together right and that they should not attempt to turn over the engine unless it was inspected. So therefore, they neglected my orders, did not run any CEL checks on the vehicle before they attempted to start it, and they most likely caused the damage in the lower end. They both said I should have the timing belt job done upon my second arrival, and they forewarned me of the problems in the lower end. From my perspective, the vehicle ran before the transmission was taken out, it was put on incorrectly, and they were the first ones to actually run the vehicle with it in that condition.
Does that sound legitimate enough?
I mean really how do you put evidence down on a vehicle that has entered a shop? This is what I know: Many people, including myself, knew the vehicle ran before anything was taken off the vehicle. After I remounted the transmission, it would not kick over, but only made a sound like the starter was rotating. Therefore, I let it alone and went on to take it to a shop so that it would not have any further issues. Upon arriving after the first hour or so of diagnostic at the shop, they claimed it had timing issues. I specifically told them when I brought the vehicle in that it was not pieced together right and that they should not attempt to turn over the engine unless it was inspected. So therefore, they neglected my orders, did not run any CEL checks on the vehicle before they attempted to start it, and they most likely caused the damage in the lower end. They both said I should have the timing belt job done upon my second arrival, and they forewarned me of the problems in the lower end. From my perspective, the vehicle ran before the transmission was taken out, it was put on incorrectly, and they were the first ones to actually run the vehicle with it in that condition.
Does that sound legitimate enough?
Last edited by taylorisafop; Mar 11, 2009 at 10:59 AM.


