Make it sticky if it helps

Here is the only COMPLETE FAQ with real info on how to build your d17 the right way.
No short cuts where taked when building this engine, Sleeves whether are needed or not they are there doing their job.
All my parts where research and developed from scratch other than the obious (turbo,block, guard and,,, just it) I didn't purchase any bolt on parts.
The need of notching the D17 was first discovered and done by yours truly the same goes for the ARP studs, fuel system, intakes etc.
Pistons developed specialy for me by Racing Enginering out Florida and they have being already available since 2004
NOW THIS ENGINE IS ON A FULL STREET TUNED CAR. This engine is driven almosty every day for the last3 years with no problems at all.
(exteremely relaiable)
Fully functional with A/C and all the amenities, the motor is done done no excuses here!
I was at NOPI 2006 in Atlanta and will go to NOPI 2007 I'm driving there and back to Florida like the last year for anyone that cares to check the car in person.
Well, I read all the stories of engines go bad after turbocharging.
I figured since some of you already bought the turbo kit and had a bad experience with the engine cause of improper installation or to much boost is time to rebuild.
If you are going to all the trouble get it done, then do it right with the proper internals.
I had my engine done in preparation for a turbo and I would like to share my experience with the project.
Project starting date Jan 03
First it will help to get a Honda Factory service manual, it will be your bible when building your engine
You can order one from http://www.factoryautomanuals.com/#ppct=track"]Factory Manuals.com
Is better to get a motor to work with , keep your original as spare.
Q: Were can I find another motor?
A: By now you may be able to get one at the auto recyclers.
Try your local places or the website http://car-part.com
there is a lot of places that will have one for sure.
I bought my block and head from a car that blew a head gasket after an accident and ran with it for awhile the insurance paid for a new one.
I got it for $600.00 back in 2003 now you may find them a lot cheaper.
Q: Can I use my own block?
If you didn't have a major malfunction that cracked the block or sleeves you may still use your own motor.
You may have a mechanic take it out of your car or if you have the tools and garage rent an engine hoist and do it your self.
Q: Once I have the block what do I do?
A: Since my stock engine was running fine and I purchase the block I was able to save money by take in it apart in my garage.
I bought an engine stand for $80.00 an the Honda service manual for $100.00
It was very educational and a lot of fun striping that block bare.
I could do no harm since it was already messed up.
(note) save all the screws, bolts and extra parts you'll need them on the future.
Q:What parts do I need and were do I get them?
A: At the time there was no pistons or sleeves for this block so I hit the web and started calling manufacturers.
I found a place in Lake Worth Florida were they do research and design parts for well known manufacturers.
The place is call Race Engineering Tel: (561) 533- 5500 ask for Jonh if you call him, deffinately tell him I, Hector told you about them and he'll work you a discount.
Any way I took the bare block to him with a stock piston.
And they designed a full floating piston and had Wiseco build it.
(Full floating piston are pistons that use a losse connecting pin that attaches them to the rod as opposed to the pressure conecting rods from stock reducing friction,they are a bit noisy and rattle when the engine is cold)
At the time I went for a bigger size piston 76mm (stock 75.02mm)

Piston part # XT- 519P76 Wiseco 76mm 9:01 compression about $450.00

I check my compression at about 95 lbs after installing this pistons
(stock 135- 145 lbs)
Wiseco now makes 75mm pistons (stock size)
Tell them that you are turbocharging and they will recomend the right set of rings and gap clearence.
Depending on how much HP and size of turbo you'll be using the type of rings will be suggested.
Heat will expand and contract this rings so gap and type of rings will make a difference if you are racing at the track of just if you just driving day to day.
Definately talk to the ppl at Racing Eng. for your application
Sleeves part #DS-300-010 Darton flanged sleeve from a D16- 75mm
I had to bore this babes out to 76mm to fit my oversized pistons.
Skip this step if you are using 75mm pistons.
About $210 a set of 4
Rods where already available CR- BR3740B Crower Billet Honda 1.7 $600.00
The good thing about Racing Engineering is that they will give you all the specs and measurements that you need for the machine shop.
This sure helps if you are not a car guru.

Q: And theeeen?
Take the block and parts to a machine shop and give them the specs that you'll get from Racing Eng. along with the Honda service manual
The block will have to be bored to fit the sleeves about 78mm and the cranck shaft line honed.
Also make sure the shop resurface the top of your block so is nice and flat.
Sleeves pressed in and bore out to fit the size piston you choose 75mm or 76mm and the bottom of sleeves noched to make room for the crower bigger rods to clear ( bigger rods will touch the bottom of the sleeves as they turn up and down,



I found this out the hard way half way into the install.

Q: Now that I have all done how do I put it all together?
A; I deffinately recomend getting a good shop to do the job.
Make sure they are proficient in Hondas and take with you the service manual and ask them to see it carefully and use all the torque recomendations.

I GET A LOT OF SHISH OF PPL TELLING ME HOW THE BLOCK IS NOT SLEEVED
(AMONG OTHER STUFF)
HERE IS A PICTURE OF THE SAME BLOCK BEFORE SLEEVES

IS JUST GOOD MACHINING!
I would also purchase a gasket kit and new cranck shaft bearings $160.00
Check the manual book to learn how to order your bearings they come in colors yellow brown green etc.
There are numbers on the block and the camsaft as well as on the rods.
The bearings can be any combination of colors and almost unique to your block.
VERY IMPORTANT!
I went OEM you may choose after market.
KMS Block Guard if you want one, $40.00

The BG is an insurance agains cathastorphic failure on your internals.
It sort of keeps thing togerher.
It works great on racing cars one 1/4 of mile at the time, but on a daily driver can get the engine overheated on hot days
(there has being issues with Block Guard heating up the head because it obstructs the free flow of water to the head)
So I modifed the BG to flow more water by opening the holes on a side to side configuration as shown below


Also I intalled a huge superthin front pusher fan placed between the intercooler and the A/C core Autozone $50.00
Now you can apply a Nippon head gasket sold at the dealership $40.00.

Follow up with a set of ARP head stud
[b]ARP part # 2084301

 

nice man, i was wondering if you were going to do something like this. there's been way too many questions involving the ability and how to build a d17 to it's full potential.

 

It wasn't easy but is possible.
part numbers included will take some of the guess work involved

 

Before anyone else questions if the block is sleeve or not.
here is a picture of the block before sleeves
STOCK

This is the one after sleeves
AFTERMARKET

IS JUST GOOD MACHINE WORKMANSHIP

 

Do you think this info should be sticked?
It can help someone down the line

 

why isnt this stickied?

best d17 info you can probably find lol

 

I give credit to the guy, he made good power and spent a lot of money.

But I'm not going to sticky this, reason being anyone can buy parts and send their block to the machine shop to be assembled, or sent to a shop to have everything installed. This is more of a "this is what I did you should do it too" post rather than "this is how I did what I did" post. Get me?

 

understood, not the every day guy can do it..

you always make good points sov

 

Is called a FAQ (frequently asked questions)
the post contains specific part #'s pistons, rods,ARP head bolts and other useful information such bearing placement and, notching of the block for rod clearances.
Deffinately save some time and money knowing this info in advance before going to the shop.
This is not a list modsthatany one can do, reason whyppl come to forums like this for information.
If the moderator is not going to stick it, is ok no argument there but the post is very informative.
By the way I'm supermex for some reasonI couldn't log in any more.
Go figure

Yo and the block IS SLEEVED look at the pictures above

 

^ Understood, but you have to remember that the aftermarket world is vast and there is more than one way to build an engine for boost. Part numbers are great if someone's going to build a clone of your engine, but you don't need to tell me how much that engine cost to build, I already know and it's a number that your average Honda enthusiast cannot afford.

It is certainly good info, and it's only a search and a bump away to get to it.

And yeah, I see that you used the old darton MID sleeves, they stopped sleeving engines like that years ago though. Now sleeves take up the entire coolant jacket as well.