Over the winter I'm hoping to get a FI project underway. My hp goal is roughly 300whp. I know thats a lot for a civic but I figure I may as well go big since I've been planning this for over 3 years. My question is would a built d16z6 or a stock b16a2 suit my needs better? I always thought the d would be cheaper but after I totaled up all the parts I would need the d is more expensive. The b will have new rings and bearings as well as the basic tune up (pumps and belts) whereas the d will more than likely be a carbon copy of the one in Sov's car. Either will have an obx lsd. I've searched and searched over every website I can find but I just want some opinions from anyone that actually has anything to say regarding the reliability of either set-up and anything else they want to throw in. If you have anything negative to say, keep it to yourself. Thanks in advance for any info

 

i always totaled parts for the d and b motors to be about the same. How much more expensive does the D come out to according to your figures?

 

you're comparing a stock B to a built D? And why a B16a2??? wouldn't an LS be cheaper and more suitable for what you want?

 

Would the extra torque from the LS outweigh the top-end advantage of the b16? I know built engineis going to be better than a stock one regardless, but the hp goals I'm setting arent astronmical so I'd like to stay away from building an engine if at all possible. If I have to order an engine I was going to get one from Hmotorsonline and the LS swap there is only $50 less than the b16 before shipping. I've checked every salvage yard within 100 miles of where I live and the hondas are pretty slim pickings. I'd prefer to just buy one from somebody but hmotors is my plan b. A d16z6 averages $500 plus shipping (from what I see, correct me if I'm wrong..and yes I know that some people pretty much give them away after they swap but I am the only honda enthusiast where I live.), then rods, vitaras, cam, springs, clutch, misc crap and the added downtime of swapping my tranny onto the new motor. With the B i can just order a few parts from advance and get a clutch and have the motor rebult in a weekend or two. I can have everything bolted together before I start to pull everything apart. Remember when sov had that unexpected issue with his tranny not bolting up? I dont just need a vtec motor, but honestly...its a honda, and as immature as it sounds I would like to have one just to say I have it.

 

The b16 is going to be more expensive, but it IS a better motor than a D16Z6. Not by much, but the fact that is has 2 cams allows it to breath better....its a slightly better motor, but for the $, id just go with a D.

 

when I suggested an LS I was more so basing my opinion on PRICE rather than it's "torque"... I mean a replacement LS can be had for the same money as a z6...

 

oh, ok. I'm still shopping around and getting my financial situiation in order at this point. Does anyone know of a reputable place to get a motor in the south east?

 

i would go with the built z6 over the b16. if i had to do it over again i would get a z6 and build it up and boost it. for the money i have put in my car i could have a 300 whp car right now and not a 250 maxed out b16 car. b16 stock blocks can hold up to 8-10 psi but dont go much more than that because you will blow it up.

 

thats exactly the kind of opinion i wanted. now i just need to get my hands on a nice D...that came out wrong

 

you would still need to slightly build any B series to be really safe at 300whp as the pistons start giving out