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Old Jul 5, 2010 | 09:33 PM
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Hi I have a few questions for the suspension experts..

1. From what i understand when i drop my car if it is not higher than around -3 camber and i get it aligned and the toe is corrected, the tire will wear normally. right?

2. Will this cause excessive pressure on the joints causing them to break?

3. IF i need a camber adjustment kit what is the best one for a 92 civic cx for the money?
 
Old Jul 5, 2010 | 11:48 PM
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1. It is widely believed to be true, but I have experienced otherwise. I burned through some Falken Ziex 512 tires in a year (only like 10,000 miles, actually, more like 7,000). They were wearing pretty unevenly. Not severely, but it was noticeable. Toe was good. Replaced them a few months ago with Falken Ziex 912 tires and installed a Buddy Club camber kit (and got an alignment... this was all in the same week), and the tire wear has been minimal and is perfectly even. If you experience improper tire wear it will likely only be in the front though (unless you lower the car quite a bit... I am only lowered 1.8")

2. no, but your axle boots might be more prone to ripping. Not really a big deal though, they are prone to ripping anyway at stock height, and if you replace with auto zone axles ($60-70 each), they have a lifetime warranty and you can just replace them again if they rip... after the first time you do axles, it becomes extremely easy. You probably won't have a problem though.

3. Buddy Club camber kit can be bought for $155 shipped on eBay and it's a great product. Really solid design and a good price. Low profile too, the adjustment bolts are really short.
 
Old Jul 6, 2010 | 04:05 AM
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I'd argue point #1. Are you sure the toe was aligned to preferred spec and not just somewhere in the manufacturer's spec range? 10k miles on Cooper Zeon ZPTs, -3.0* of camber on all four corners, and toe zeroed out and no noticeable wear, and you know Brad can vouch for me on that one. Camber, especially with a MacPherson strut, relatively narrow tires, and a light car will not do that much damage.
 
Old Jul 6, 2010 | 10:24 AM
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I believe toe was at .1º on one side and 0º on the other
 
Old Jul 6, 2010 | 10:43 AM
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0.1 or 0.01? The extra decimal point makes a huge difference considering a tenth of a degree of toe is a lot.

I'm not saying you're wrong or trying to start another one of these arguments, I'm just saying that I managed to run -3.0 degrees of camber with no premature or uneven tire wear for ~10,000 miles before selling the wheels and tires.
 
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