new to forum...looking for wheel/tire advice
Hello fellow Civic owners. I'm new to the forum and wanted some experienced opinions. I have recently upgraded to 17" Motegi wheels
http://www.motegiracing.com/wheels/d...=2391&desc=
and
Toyo Proxes FZ4
http://www.toyo.com/docs/tires/tires...category=sport
Handling is amazing with this combo in dry weather. However, I wanted "All-season" tires which these claim they are and I had some light snow in my area recently and I was only doing 15mph when i began sliding forward with these. I also noticed my Anti-lock brakes kick in and give off a loud alarm like screetching.
I suspect it was the tires because of the fact that they are low-profiles.
Has anyone noticed anything like this before with their upgrade?
I asked the tire place to switch out these tires for something that will sacrafice the performance and be safer in light snow, so they recommended Yokohama AS430. Has anyone heard of these tires or have these tires? If so how are they in light snow?
http://www.motegiracing.com/wheels/d...=2391&desc=
and
Toyo Proxes FZ4
http://www.toyo.com/docs/tires/tires...category=sport
Handling is amazing with this combo in dry weather. However, I wanted "All-season" tires which these claim they are and I had some light snow in my area recently and I was only doing 15mph when i began sliding forward with these. I also noticed my Anti-lock brakes kick in and give off a loud alarm like screetching.
I suspect it was the tires because of the fact that they are low-profiles.
Has anyone noticed anything like this before with their upgrade?
I asked the tire place to switch out these tires for something that will sacrafice the performance and be safer in light snow, so they recommended Yokohama AS430. Has anyone heard of these tires or have these tires? If so how are they in light snow?
Not sure on those tires, but you might want to use your old wheels for the snow tires...that way for most of the year you've got performance tires on your good wheels.
ORIGINAL: silvercivic02
I had some light snow in my area recently and I was only doing 15mph when i began sliding forward with these.
I suspect it was the tires because of the fact that they are low-profiles.
I had some light snow in my area recently and I was only doing 15mph when i began sliding forward with these.
I suspect it was the tires because of the fact that they are low-profiles.
AS 430 are good. I did not have a chance to try them on snow yet, but I really liked the model they replaced, avid h4/v4. And I hope you know you cant expect the same as dry traction on snow from any tires, even winter ones, right?
Misha, yes I am very well aware of that.
But I shouldn't be sliding when I'm only doing 15mph and lightly hit brakes on tires that claim they are "All Season."
Believe me I would much rather prefer to get snow tires on my original OEM wheels for winter but I needed to replace my OEM tires very, very soon and wanted All Season low profile tires A) So that I wouldn't have to constantly change my tires and B) I didn't want to spend extra money having already spent just over $1K.
I'm hoping the Yoko's would be better. If not I may have to go that route.
But I shouldn't be sliding when I'm only doing 15mph and lightly hit brakes on tires that claim they are "All Season."
Believe me I would much rather prefer to get snow tires on my original OEM wheels for winter but I needed to replace my OEM tires very, very soon and wanted All Season low profile tires A) So that I wouldn't have to constantly change my tires and B) I didn't want to spend extra money having already spent just over $1K.
I'm hoping the Yoko's would be better. If not I may have to go that route.
It may not be just the treads, but also the width of the tires and the relatively light weight of the vehicle. Narrow tires on a heavy vehicle tend to bite down through shallow snow to the pavement a little better than wider tires on a light vehicle. If the snow is deeper than 6-8" though, you're better off trying to "float"it with wide tires and just drivingREALLY slow.
Do they allow studs or chains where you live? If they allow chains, and you have room in the wheelwells to fit some cable "chains", I'd try a set of those on all four corners when there's snow on the ground.
Otherwise, cruise classifieds and Ebay looking for some cheap stock rims and get a cheap set of skinny snow/all-season tires for the winter. I just got a set of 195/60R14 Yoko Avid H4s and they are awesome in the rain and the dry. I guess they do better thanmost high-performancetires in the snow, but I haven't driven them in more than an inch or two. I usually drive my beat-up old Jeep with Trxus MTs when snow is on the ground. That thing pretty much goes where you point it, but a cheap set of winter Civic tires would probably be considerably cheaper and do the job adequately.
Do they allow studs or chains where you live? If they allow chains, and you have room in the wheelwells to fit some cable "chains", I'd try a set of those on all four corners when there's snow on the ground.
Otherwise, cruise classifieds and Ebay looking for some cheap stock rims and get a cheap set of skinny snow/all-season tires for the winter. I just got a set of 195/60R14 Yoko Avid H4s and they are awesome in the rain and the dry. I guess they do better thanmost high-performancetires in the snow, but I haven't driven them in more than an inch or two. I usually drive my beat-up old Jeep with Trxus MTs when snow is on the ground. That thing pretty much goes where you point it, but a cheap set of winter Civic tires would probably be considerably cheaper and do the job adequately.
if its light snow and you loose traction at that low of speed and your abs jumps in, well i would say itsnot the tires.... i recomend having your brakes checked... one of your brakes up front may not be functioning properly... if its been awhile since you changed your pads iwould do it now and put in some ceramic ones and if your rotors are bad,get some slotted ones, they cost just about the same as stock...
definatly wide tires with a more dry traction tire is not going to be good in snow. my jeep doesn't even do that great in snow with wide tires, so i run skinny tires on it on the street. a lot of jeep guys run bfg all terrains which are great tires, but they run them in 12.5' widths on the street and they don't do good in snow or a heavy rain, but running a skinny tire helps traction tremendously in the snow.
thats true with skinny tires, although he did say light snow and going 15mph... i had this problem with my minitruck... i had a 99 civic with 17's and lowpro summer street tires, but didnt have that problem even when we got 4" snow and stopping from 30 mph... well it could also be how you step on your brakes, if you have a heavy foot and dont slow down ahead of time, that mighjt be the prob....


