EK Swaps - H22 Swap

I've started saving up for an H22 swap into my 97 Civic and I should have the money by the end of next summer (I = jobless). Anyone got pics of their H22 swap in a civic?

probably not here, they are rare because they arent really worth it. Too pricey and heavy when you can just drop in a nice turbo setup for about half the price. But if someone has pics of a swap I'd love to see it, haha.

Yeah. You'll be much happier if you just do a B series swap. H22's f*** your handling up hardcore.

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probably not here, they are rare because they arent really worth it. Too pricey and heavy when you can just drop in a nice turbo setup for about half the price. But if someone has pics of a swap I'd love to see it, haha.


I dunno where you found your prices for an H22, but from what I've seen they average around $2000. They're not that rare; I've seen plenty of these swaps.

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Yeah. You'll be much happier if you just do a B series swap. H22's **** your handling up hardcore.


I was gona do a B series swap, but most likely I'm not gona turbo, so I'd rather have the more powerful H22A. Plus, I've been in an H22 swap civic with extremely good handling. They handle great if you do the suspension right.

Oh, they handle fine, but when you compare them to stock civics, you'll be able to tell the difference. But seriously, for the amount of money it's going to cost you to get it installed, you'd be better off doing a B18C5. A lot less work, a lot more fun, and no serious mods necessary.

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Oh, they handle fine, but when you compare them to stock civics, you'll be able to tell the difference. But seriously, for the amount of money it's going to cost you to get it installed, you'd be better off doing a B18C5. A lot less work, a lot more fun, and no serious mods necessary.

I'm installing it myself.

Well, I hope you're prepared to surgically alter your car's frame if necessary. And the fact that you're doing it yourself makes a much stronger case to go for a B series swap. A B-series is a very simple swap for 6G civics like yours, and B18C5's are such high compression that they're perfect for those who don't want to add forced induction. Plus, the car will be faster overall.

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Well, I hope you're prepared to surgically alter your car's frame if necessary. And the fact that you're doing it yourself makes a much stronger case to go for a B series swap. A B-series is a very simple swap for 6G civics like yours, and B18C5's are such high compression that they're perfect for those who don't want to add forced induction. Plus, the car will be faster overall.

What kind of power does a B18C5 put out? Also, I've found B18C's running anywhere from $2500 to $4000 while i can get an H22A for $2000. I know the H22 swap is a very tight fit (which i think i could handle because I've seen it done a few times), but this B18C5 is lookin real nice except the price.

B18C5 makes 195whp in a Teg type R. Also, have you ever done an engine swap before? If you haven't, an H22 is NOT a good one for newbs, even if you have directions and have seen it done before. A B-series on the other hand is pretty much a one step process. If you were to compare the two, you would find that the B18 is a lot funner to drive, since it pushes about the same amount of power without the huge weight gain, and it's fun as hell to drive since it's so rev-happy. Overall, B18C5 = faster.

honestly, im not sure i would want anymore torque than my b18c(1) makes. i have a hard enough time keeping traction in first, and second can be a problem as well. if the road isnt perfect, then when VTEC hits, it starts to lose traction in 1st and 2nd. then theres rain. first is almost useless. if youre doing a swap, an lsd is imperitive. i dont care what it is youre putting in. unless its a d-series. then the lsd will cost as much or more than the swap, since you pretty much have to go aftermarket. and get new tires too.

Yeah. That's another perk of the B18C5's. The stock type R trannies have LSD's. That'll definitely save you a lot of pain and suffering.

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B18C5 makes 195whp in a Teg type R. Also, have you ever done an engine swap before? If you haven't, an H22 is NOT a good one for newbs, even if you have directions and have seen it done before. A B-series on the other hand is pretty much a one step process. If you were to compare the two, you would find that the B18 is a lot funner to drive, since it pushes about the same amount of power without the huge weight gain, and it's fun as hell to drive since it's so rev-happy. Overall, B18C5 = faster.

Yeah I've done a couple of swaps before so the H22 wouldn't be that big of a deal. However, I think you guys have pretty much convinced me that the B18C5 would be an easier and faster way to go. Sacicons do you have pics of your B18 swap? Please post!!


Edit: http://www.hmotorsonline.com/shop/sc2000search.cgi?what=page&item=30010
Is that a C5? It's got quite a large price tag compared to most of the other engines on there.

Good call man. BTW, that's not a B18C5. B18C5's came in Integra Type R's from 98-01. That engine is just from a JDM Teg SiR (~175whp, 125tq).

Check some of these sites out:

http://www.sunrisejdmmotors.com/honda.php
http://www.nippon-motors.com/honda.htm
http://www.ardperformance.com/
http://www.totaljdm.com/

Or try these guys (they're where I usually get my engines to swap). They don't have their stock list online, but trust me, they're legit, they have tons of engines, and free shipping (depending on where you live):

http://www.foreignenginesinc.com/contactinformation/

here. heres my b16 and now my gsr. im going to put the red cover on the gsr, but not till i get it through B.A.R. testing. i am going to act stupid so hopefully the guy wont know im doing the engine change for performance. i told him i blew my motor and im getting a "japanese surplus engine" from an integra.

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Good call man. BTW, that's not a B18C5. B18C5's came in Integra Type R's from 98-01. That engine is just from a JDM Teg SiR (~175whp, 125tq).

Check some of these sites out:

http://www.sunrisejdmmotors.com/honda.php
http://www.nippon-motors.com/honda.htm
http://www.ardperformance.com/
http://www.totaljdm.com/

Or try these guys (they're where I usually get my engines to swap). They don't have their stock list online, but trust me, they're legit, they have tons of engines, and free shipping (depending on where you live):

http://www.foreignenginesinc.com/contactinformation/

The engine looks real nice, but I still can't get over the price tag. I'm probably going to have to wait quite a bit longer to get the swap unless i get a super high paying job. Oh and do you think they would ship free to NC? I'm guessing not since they are in WA.

tha b18c5 swap would be better



im savin for my gs-R swap in my 97 civic dx

go with a b series
i think h swaps are better suited for accords

Yea the H22 will definately mess up your handling, mess up your suspensions and you will go through axels like never before and mind you they are expensive because the axles are specially made for this swap from hasport or atleast i think thats where i got mine. Also you have to modify your shift box to fit the prelude shift box and linkage, etc. So get ready to f*** the inside up. Then you have to modify your engine mounts; eliminating one and adding another...it sucked. plus the mounts are like $500 from hapsort..its not a cheap swap.
But anyway i got a question....i put the H22 in my 95 civic and there's a special radiator from another car, make, model, year and everything, that your supposed to implement with the swap. Anyone know what year, make, and model car im supposed to steal the radiator from for my 95 civic h22 swap? I heard i was supposed to get the Accord 93, 94, or 95, radiator for the swap but i want a confirmation. Thanks.

Yea go with the B18C...its tight and has a higher rev limit.

Man that's a lot of cash when you can build a turbo kit for half what an engine swap costs... and it requires a lot less ****ing around.

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I've started saving up for an H22 swap into my 97 Civic and I should have the money by the end of next summer (I = jobless). Anyone got pics of their H22 swap in a civic?


i am still waiting on my swap, and here's the pics: http://www.hondacivicforum.com/m_114541/tm.htm it doesnt count yet because i still havent heard it run. to say the least this has been a long and frustrating project i believe 10 months now, due to my inexperience, and partly my mechanics procrastination. anyway, most of what has been said is true. it is very expensive due to all the extra crap you have to buy. i got my cv shafts from drive shaft shop for the low price of 800 bucks! not to mention motor mounts, shift linkage, gear box, conversion harnesses and a whole mound of crap i didnt really need but thought would make my car cool. atleast the motor i got has lsd already. whatever, i would be happier driving a stock d-series 9 months ago than still be waiting on this. now if you really want to go with the h22, it swaps much more easily into 88-91 hatchbacks and crx's. hasport swapped an h22 into a 90's model crx, gutted the interior, threw in a hondata p200 ecu, cai, headers, cat back, 550 cc injectors, and dual stage dry shot nos. they were able to consistently pull off 12 second runs. also there are rumors that the extra weight will cause bad handling. true if you use the wrong suspension. Progress sells a spring set designed specifically for the h22 swap so you can avoid poor handling. also bad traction can be circumvented with wide soft sticky compound tires. these are great in ideal conditions but horrible in rain, also with out lsd you will have a hard time making the tires stick to the road just like sacs said.