Nitrous, Super Chargers, & Turbos - 434 whp 352 lbs torque d17 civic
supermex
07-15-2007, 01:55 PM
T-3/4 turbo fully build engine
Custom piping, (no DEZOD or anybody elses turbo kits)
Sleeves, pistons , rods , cam, valves.
Full custom return fuel system
AEM EMS
custom full race manifold
Full suspension
Custom intake w/ mustang cobra TB
many other mods
http://www.kissimmeemotorsports.com/ownersride/enginerebuildjune2005/turbomanifold001.jpeg
http://www.kissimmeemotorsports.com/ownersride/enginerebuildjune2005/turbomanifold015.jpeg
http://www.kissimmeemotorsports.com/ownersride/enginerebuildjune2005/MVC-096S.JPG
http://www.kissimmeemotorsports.com/ownersride/enginerebuildjune2005/100_0005.jpg
http://www.kissimmeemotorsports.com/ownersride/enginerebuildjune2005/Mvc-102s.jpg
http://www.kissimmeemotorsports.com/ownersride/enginerebuildjune2005/newturboconfig.jpg
http://www.kissimmeemotorsports.com/ownersride/enginerebuildjune2005/turbomanifold012.jpeg
http://www.kissimmeemotorsports.com/ownersride/enginerebuildjune2005/turbomanifold011.jpeg
http://www.kissimmeemotorsports.com/cflturbo052307.jpg
http://www.kissimmeemotorsports.com/ownersride/hin2007/HIN%20engine%2007.jpg
red2000Si
07-15-2007, 05:13 PM
Pretty impressive. Is that yours? I got tuned at CFT too. Pretty good place. Can we get some more details on it like turbo specs, psi, etc?That front mount looks pretty tiny for 434 whp though.
Edit: looks like water injection or something on that intercooler. Pretty sweet!
supermex
07-15-2007, 05:24 PM
I appreciate your comments
Turbo is a precision t3 t4 with 65 trim on the intake and 48 exhaust.
The intercooler works fine for me.
(Funny it seems that many ppl think that then bigger the IC the more power you can handdle)
The ability to handdle more air like bigger piping, big intake big tthotle body makes up for smaller IC.
The thing that you see in it is a fogger kit, instead of purging nitrous to the athmosphere it goes to the IC cooling the incoming air.
When fully engaged it gives up to 25/ 30 hp.
And yes the car is mine is the most powerfull, complete and practical D17 out there, I can drive it almost any day.
A/C works just fine and gas comsuption is prety good when not pushing hard all the time.
I drove it ti Atlanta and back for NOPI.
riceburner700
07-15-2007, 07:31 PM
it looks like you have a block gaurd, not sleeves. not trying to burst your bubble but if you do have sleeves who installed them and what brand?
ej6buddy
07-15-2007, 07:37 PM
looks good, just take off those ridiculous stickers and it will be the best
StifflersMom
07-15-2007, 07:44 PM
ORIGINAL: ej6buddy
looks good, just take off those ridiculous stickers and it will be the best
I don't see any ridiculous stickers there...if they're all represented by parts there's no shame to them. Very clean car even though it does look like a blockguard in there....could simply be a resleeved block with stock sleeves.
kokasian
07-15-2007, 07:49 PM
I'd be willing to rock a ford sticker if I had 434hp...
ej6buddy
07-15-2007, 07:51 PM
it was a joke, i'm just not big on stickers
Mr Mobsta Man
07-15-2007, 08:56 PM
That's a hella nice car. What are you using for engine/fuel management?
ej6buddy
07-15-2007, 08:59 PM
ORIGINAL: supermex
T-3/4 turbo fully build engine
Custom piping, (no DEZOD or anybody elses turbo kits)
Sleeves, pistons , rods , cam, valves.
Full custom return fuel system
AEM EMS
custom full race manifold
Full suspension
Custom intake w/ mustang cobra TB
many other mods
Mr Mobsta Man
07-15-2007, 09:01 PM
Oh, missed that. I figured thats what it was, 7th gens don't have many options when it comes to that stuff.
supermex
07-16-2007, 03:58 AM
Cool, I know fuel managemt is a challenge for 7th gen civics , that's a good question:
Fuel management is done with a custom return line, Walbro 250 intank pump, mighty might inline pump, custom made fuel rail with RC 550 injectors with an Auitomotive fuel pressure regulator and a custom made front mounted reservoir tank with a one liter capacity (Bottom left)
http://orlandocitybeat.metromix.com/media/photo/2007-06/30676210.jpg
http://orlandocitybeat.metromix.com/media/photo/2007-06/30676339.jpg
As far as the sleeves I have single sleeves for each cylinders
DARTON 75mm flanged sleeves designed for a D16 motor, then bored out to 76mm.
Look closer, you are not burtsing my bubbleI have no reason to make the stuff up.
I donot recomend anyone to boost anything over 18 lbs without them.
http://www.kissimmeemotorsports.com/ownersride/enginerebuildjune2005/MVC-108S.JPG
They where so big and not made for the D17 that I had to bore cut a notch on the bottom of each sleeve to make room for the Crower rods to clear on each stroke
http://www.kissimmeemotorsports.com/ownersride/enginerebuildjune2005/MVC-100S.JPG
As far as the stickers hmmm.... well when you get free stuff from some car manufacturing companies all the time year after year oh yeah is call sponsorship.
I have to have them as a matter a fact is the least I can do to repay them for being so cool with me through out the years.
I needed to have more at the risk of being flamed.
AEM gave me the EMS when I needed one.
Stinger AAMP of America always hook me up with batteries high output alternator and tons of other stuff,I just wish I could do more stickers tastefully.
Belive me when I said I grinch every time I have to place one sticker on the 4k paint job I have.
Check the ICE out
http://www.kissimmeemotorsports.com/ownersride/hin2007/HIN%20trunk%2007.jpg
And a bonus interior picture
http://www.kissimmeemotorsports.com/ownersride/citybeat2007/citybeat007.jpg
basbal123
07-16-2007, 07:12 AM
Wow that deffinently a full show car with some power if you need it lol..... what kind of money have you put in it so far?
Id say 25K plus the cost of the car.
supermex
07-16-2007, 08:36 AM
Something along does lines.
Deffinately more TIME than money.
Although I started hooking it all up since the first month I got the car brand new from the dealership.
For the D17:
I was the first to adapt an EX DC sports header to an LX with a harness relocation for the 02 sensor
The first to do internals.
The first to developed pistons.
the first to blue print and sleeve a the block
The first to apply a custom Intake
The first to P&P the head and apply a regrind cam.
I found the ARP studs.
The first to hit 300 whp +
It's being quite a ride ... literaly
I can't take all the credit, I had lot's of help from friends and sponsors.
johnb
07-16-2007, 10:02 AM
bro, i saw your car on another forum and let me say i am a big fan lol. i had your car as my backgroudn on my laptop for the longest. so many people discourage others from soupin up their 7th gens and im glad to see someone did it. very nice car i really liek your inside as well. keep up the good work.
aryiman98civic
07-16-2007, 10:35 AM
hey man welcome to hcf and does the fogger kit actually keep heat issues down in your car? i have heard of people doing that and it also adds a little bit of hp i have heard.
ej6buddy
07-16-2007, 10:37 AM
yes, they do, either co2 or nitrous
ic892003
07-16-2007, 02:47 PM
all i gotta say is beautiful man, the only thing id change about it is the fenders, but hey no one is write when it comes to cosmetics its wutever u like :D
johnny
07-16-2007, 04:22 PM
Nice car, i woulda just got a D16z6 hatch.
Mr Mobsta Man
07-16-2007, 05:40 PM
z6 hatch wouldn't be anywere near as impressive as this guy's car.
SovXietday
07-16-2007, 06:01 PM
A lot of this doesn't add up...
Full race doesn't coat their manifolds chrome, in fact they don't coat their manifolds at all. (Granted you could have)
Your engine is not sleeved, sorry. Those are stock sleeves and a block guard. When you sleeve an engine you drill the sleeves out and then press new ones in, there is no gapping anywhere, it is also flush with the decking of the block, which yours is not. Darton used to make sleeves similar to that but there was still no gap and it was always flush with the deck.
550cc injectors do not support 435whp, sorry.
Without sleeves the power could be made, chromed manifold is whatever, turbo is big enough, IC is on the small side for 400whp but with a fogger system always running you'd be ok...
My biggest problem is the injectors, they support 300whp, 330whp MAX. You're pushing almost 100whp more than that, you'd have to be pushing 50%+ methanol to fuel ratio in order to make that kind of power which really is tough to get to atomize correctly with the airflow with suge a huge dose.
IDK, car looks good, not my taste but looks good, but I'm hung up on a few things even though you have the proof. Nice car regardless, and don't mind my bantering it's just me thinking out loud.
dfdon
07-16-2007, 06:19 PM
i smelt somthing fishy from the beginning
supermex
07-17-2007, 08:52 AM
ORIGINAL: SovXietday
A lot of this doesn't add up...
Full race doesn't coat their manifolds chrome, in fact they don't coat their manifolds at all. (Granted you could have)
Your engine is not sleeved, sorry. Those are stock sleeves and a block guard. When you sleeve an engine you drill the sleeves out and then press new ones in, there is no gapping anywhere, it is also flush with the decking of the block, which yours is not. Darton used to make sleeves similar to that but there was still no gap and it was always flush with the deck.
550cc injectors do not support 435whp, sorry.
Without sleeves the power could be made, chromed manifold is whatever, turbo is big enough, IC is on the small side for 400whp but with a fogger system always running you'd be ok...
My biggest problem is the injectors, they support 300whp, 330whp MAX. You're pushing almost 100whp more than that, you'd have to be pushing 50%+ methanol to fuel ratio in order to make that kind of power which really is tough to get to atomize correctly with the airflow with suge a huge dose.
IDK, car looks good, not my taste but looks good, but I'm hung up on a few things even though you have the proof. Nice car regardless, and don't mind my bantering it's just me thinking out loud.
Don't be sorry man I get that a lot from non belivers.
The block is sleeved, just not full deck, the sleeves are invividualy installed.
They went in so tight that I had to honed the crank drive.
The gap is covered by the block guard (IS NOT A FULL DECK)
I don't know what else to tell you other than getting into the yes I'm not you are not type or argument and is not what I like to do.
Belive what you want is cool with me I know what I got.
I also have a methanol injection kit along with other trickeries.
To achive 400+ hp I ran all nitrous fogger 45 shoot and the methanol.injection.
Granted is not parctical for every day driving so is not tuned that way always.
After getting does numbers on the dyno we tuned the car to lower HP and boost to be able to drive it.
Take in account that I have a stage 3 regrinded cam too.
With all that not having sleeves will deffinately messed up my engine by now.
Cental Florida Turbo is a very reputable tuner in Florida they wouldn't put their name on the line on a dyno sheet if it wasn't acurate the numbers don't lie.
Again I get scepticism a LOT and is understandable.
Others have made the 400+whp on similar set ups on the D17 so is not imposible.
A year ago I was tols that I could never get 350 whp and I did so others did too, now 350 is no big deal.
The manifold is ceramic coated not chrome, I don't know what is such a big issue.
Is there a company called Full Race?
Here inFloridaa full race isa style of manifold and I had it custom made specialyfor my car.
Is all good man I do respect your opinion and welcome constructive critizisim.
You seem to know your stuff.
Here is a link on a FAQ I wrote during the build
It gives part #'s and all
http://www.civicforums.com/forums/79-forced-induction-swaps/168101-faq-engine-block-internals-updated-july-06-a.html
s2000gtx
07-17-2007, 09:50 AM
^ prove ur case man lol right now ur guilty until proven innocent [8D]
my05civic
07-17-2007, 10:30 AM
holy sheit dude! i can't believe you're here! your a legend man... welcome!:D
supermex
07-17-2007, 11:35 AM
Thanks 05civic I'm glad to be here is a friendly site.
s2000gtx LOL I'm guilty :)alright is hard to comprehend that some one can get that much power out of a D17 the fact is that is a very stong little engine and is very capable.
You'll see more and more ppl getting there.
I actualy documented the progress of the engine as it was build through a FAQ I wrote in another forum
You more than welcome to check it out it it needs to be updated.
http://www.civicforums.com/forums/79-forced-induction-swaps/168101-faq-engine-block-internals-updated-july-06-a.html
didder
07-17-2007, 03:25 PM
SOMEONE NOMINATE THIS GUY FOR RODM!
lol?