Problem starting. Need advice
#1
Problem starting. Need advice
Hi
I have a 1992 civic 3dr hatch and I have a starting issue. At first I thought it might be the cap and rotor. I had that replaced and all is fine there. I thought the C&R would fix the issue but it is still happening. The engine would turn over several time and then it would sound like it starts until it stops again (lasts maybe one second). Eventually after trying this over 2 or three times (waiting 10 seconds between tries), it does kick over and stays running.
Any idea what this may be? Spark, fuel filter?
Thanks
I have a 1992 civic 3dr hatch and I have a starting issue. At first I thought it might be the cap and rotor. I had that replaced and all is fine there. I thought the C&R would fix the issue but it is still happening. The engine would turn over several time and then it would sound like it starts until it stops again (lasts maybe one second). Eventually after trying this over 2 or three times (waiting 10 seconds between tries), it does kick over and stays running.
Any idea what this may be? Spark, fuel filter?
Thanks
#3
Since my last post, I have changed the fuel filter and spark plugs. It still has issues starting once in a while. It would seem to happen when you stop and start the car over short periods. It does not happen when the engine is cold.
As for the lights on the dash, they stay on if it does not start even after wiggling the key.
Not sure where to go from here.
As a side note, I noticed oil on the ignitor for one of the spark plugs when I changed it. I know this means a seal is gone but would this create the behavior?
Thanks
As for the lights on the dash, they stay on if it does not start even after wiggling the key.
Not sure where to go from here.
As a side note, I noticed oil on the ignitor for one of the spark plugs when I changed it. I know this means a seal is gone but would this create the behavior?
Thanks
#4
Main relay should always be considered if it hasn't been done yet. "Cranks but won't start, especially when warm" is the classic main relay. In that case, when you turn the key on but don't try to start, the CEL may not go out like it should. Firing a little and not starting is not quite like a main relay problem though.
Once started, does the car otherwise run and drive OK?
Once started, does the car otherwise run and drive OK?
#5
Any CEL codes?
As per mk's advice, resolder the main relay:
http://techauto.awardspace.com/mainrelay.html
As per mk's advice, resolder the main relay:
http://techauto.awardspace.com/mainrelay.html
#6
in response to mk378, Yes when the car finally starts, it runs fine.
The main relay is something I never looked at. It's a little intimidating pulling it our and resoldering myself. I wonder how much it would be just to replace it by buying a new one?
I guess I could pull it out and bring it to an electronic store to see if they can do it.
Thank you all for your suggestion and I will keep you posted on my status after checking the relay.
The main relay is something I never looked at. It's a little intimidating pulling it our and resoldering myself. I wonder how much it would be just to replace it by buying a new one?
I guess I could pull it out and bring it to an electronic store to see if they can do it.
Thank you all for your suggestion and I will keep you posted on my status after checking the relay.
#7
My Relay went bad about a month ago...I thought about resoldering it but after looking up the instructions it looked pretty difficult even if people said "Yeah it's easy!". So I just brought me a new one from Advance Auto. They cost $50 BUT you can look up cheaper relays in the shopping section of Google..copy & paste "civic+main-relay+92" onto google shopping & go from there if you're thinking about it.
#8
Just an update. I love the internet. With the links this forum has provided me and a few google searches, I managed to pull the main relay out and expose the curcuit board with ease. Since I didn't have the tools or practice with a soldering iron, I went to the local electronics shop who saw the curcuit board and new exactly what to do. He said the solder joints were bad at the two points on the board and resoldered them perfectly. It cost me $2 and 10 minutes of my time including travel.
I can not say for sure the problem is resolved, only time will tell. So far its been good.
Thank you all for your help.
I can not say for sure the problem is resolved, only time will tell. So far its been good.
Thank you all for your help.
#9
Just an update. I love the internet. With the links this forum has provided me and a few google searches, I managed to pull the main relay out and expose the curcuit board with ease. Since I didn't have the tools or practice with a soldering iron, I went to the local electronics shop who saw the curcuit board and new exactly what to do. He said the solder joints were bad at the two points on the board and resoldered them perfectly. It cost me $2 and 10 minutes of my time including travel.
I can not say for sure the problem is resolved, only time will tell. So far its been good.
Thank you all for your help.
I can not say for sure the problem is resolved, only time will tell. So far its been good.
Thank you all for your help.
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