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done_accordingly 03-28-2010 09:24 PM

D16/d17?
 
hey guys, i just got a 95 hatch with a d15 no ps and no a/c.. the car is mint but the engine has a blown head gasket. i want to keep the transmission for now to keep costs down lol i was hoping to get a d16/d17 vtec and swap the ECU and everything because the car is already get stripped down. I was looking for information throughout the forrum and was hoping maybe someone has a D17 and has a link to some good information. or even directions with HCF lol :)

94civichatchback 03-28-2010 10:17 PM

dont waste your time on a d17 its not compatible with d16, the d17 engine is totally different, just pull the d15 head off and put a d16z6 head on it, we have a well known member here who has a d16z6 head for sale he only wants 20 bucks for it, just has a bolt broke off in it and needs to be drilled and tapped, but is well worth the money and did come off running, i vouch for him. this swap is called a mini me swap its putting a d16vtec head on a d15 non vtec block, once you swap the heads get a d16z6 ecu (p28) it comes from any 92-95 civic ex or si, then run 2 wires from the vtec to the ecu, we have diagrams on how to wire the vtec.


vtec head for sale:
https://www.hondacivicforum.com/foru...ad.php?t=80683

how to wire vtec up:
https://www.hondacivicforum.com/foru...ad.php?t=80683

for sohc vtec all you need to wire is the a4, d6 ecu pins dont worry about the others
i also have the ecu pins needed to wire vtec and sell them for $2.00 shipped

trustdestruction 03-28-2010 11:15 PM

^hamorhead is coming this afternoon to pick it up from me

but thanks for the consideration though

94civichatchback 03-29-2010 12:23 AM

sorry, well look on your local craigslist and buy one or goto the local junkyard and buy one.


i tried ;)

done_accordingly 03-29-2010 04:23 PM

D17a2
 
iv been doing a lot of looking and iv decided that with the price i can get on a D17A2 it would be the power plant id like to go with. I was reading that any d series motor will mount to a D series transmission. if thats the case and i get the motor, wiring harnesses, computor and what not... wiring doesnt bother me at all im just wondering if i need new mounts and what not. if worst comes to worste i can cut and slice things to fit but of course i was hoping for relative ease... a d15 with a d16 vtec head sounds ok but id like to go with the D17 because its engagement point is at 3g i believe instead of 4.5g like with the D16Y8 cylinder head.... iunno just throwing stuff out there :)

trustdestruction 03-29-2010 05:23 PM

having an earlier VTEC engagement point doesn't make the engine better, or even more powerful. And I doubt it even engages that early. The only ones i've ever heard of having a 3000 RPM crossover is VTEC-E, which isn't made for power. The VTEC point is set by Honda in its optimal point for maximum performance.

94civichatchback 03-29-2010 05:29 PM

d17 engines are not swapable into your car, and also the d17 is a crappy engine, and there isnt any mods like the d15 and d16 and b seres motors have, now the d17 has its own trans and will not bolt up to a d15 or d16.

trustdestruction 03-29-2010 05:32 PM

I wouldn't call it a "crappy" engine, more like an engine that isn't good for much other than keeping it the way it is. If you are interested in performance then the D17 isn't really a good choice. You can mod them but its much more costly and only produces similar results to a D16.

94civichatchback 03-29-2010 05:39 PM

by crappy i ment by ""its not really user friendly"" civic enthusiests and gear heads like myself will all tell you the same thing, your best option is a mini me or swap to a b series motor, hell if you wanna stay sohc and have good torque swap a f22 accord motor n trans in, try to get the d17 out of ur ideas, not worth it, but if you wanna go ahead and do it, then go ahead i cant make u do or not do anything, all i can do is give good advise from experience.

done_accordingly 03-29-2010 08:18 PM

Lol well if the D17 doesnt bolt on i might do a mini me for the short term to get it running. i have an accord as my daily driver and have looked into boosting the F22... drool aha and i digress... do you have a link about swapping an F22 into a civic?

heres a link i was looking at that was takling about the D17a2 motor if ur interested, id like to hear ur oppinion
http://www.civicforums.com/forums/3-...-clear-up.html


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