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curlybandit 01-03-2007 04:48 PM

Best oil & filter for a stock y8 and spirited driving?
 
I just recently dropped a '00 y8 in my '96 Si with about 85,000 km's on it. I couldn't use the '95 D15b I picked up before this (long story...). Luckily I found a y8. Thanks Mike :)

My original had <251,000 km before I spun a rod bearing and smoked the block. I was getting a low oil light pretty consistently between 4000 and 5000 km's, right before each oil change. Guess what it was almost time for....

I was using Quaker State 5W30 Higher Mileage oil, but realize that given the high km's and oil burning of my motor, I probably should have used a higher grade like 10W30. Oh well... Live and learn.
With the exception of a cone intake, my motor is stock. I definitely enjoy opening it up for some spirited driving, but this is what lead to me blowing up my motor in the first place (reving to high in 4th....). Seeing as how I don't want to re-live that experience, and after doing some reading through some searches, I was hoping to get some advice on what type of oil and filter I should be using to help prolong the life of my motor.

I know, I know... Don't beat up on my engine so much, but sometimes I just can't help myself...

So.... Synthetic vs dino? What manufacturer? Is one oil filter better than another? What would you suggest for a stock D16y8 and an enthusiastic driver?

Curlybandit

Kedawei 01-03-2007 06:27 PM

RE: Best oil & filter for a stock y8 and spirited driving?
 
Synthetic is a lot better, use it. The only time I would use dino is during engine break in, and that's just because everyone else says to use it then. I'm not convinced that synthetic wouldn't be fine then either though. If you do decide to forgo the cost of synthetic, go with 10W-30 dino instead of 5. However with synthetic I prefer to use 5W, as it's not a problem with synthetic. I can explain that more later.

Quaker State is crap. You can find charts comparing oils around the internet. Amsoil is great, Mobile 1 is good, and I believe Valvoline is good also (for synthetics). Castrol GTX is an average dino also.

Some filters are better than others. I would only use OEM or Wix.

Misha 01-03-2007 06:46 PM

RE: Best oil & filter for a stock y8 and spirited driving?
 
OEM oil and OEM filter. And your thinking that revving above 4K damaged your engine is wrong. As long as your oil is fine, anything up to redline is OK.
BTW, higher grade oil does not mean 10W versus 5W. This first number before W just indicates viscosity when oil is cold, in other words howeasy engine will start in the winter. And nothing else.

Powermidget 01-04-2007 02:32 PM

RE: Best oil & filter for a stock y8 and spirited driving?
 
Personally I use only Mobile 1 or Penzoil Platinum 5W30which both run great it all my cars ive owned. I also havehad the best experience with pure one oil filters.

Mr Mobsta Man 01-04-2007 02:46 PM

RE: Best oil & filter for a stock y8 and spirited driving?
 

ORIGINAL: Misha

OEM oil and OEM filter. And your thinking that revving above 4K damaged your engine is wrong. As long as your oil is fine, anything up to redline is OK.
BTW, higher grade oil does not mean 10W versus 5W. This first number before W just indicates viscosity when oil is cold, in other words howeasy engine will start in the winter. And nothing else.
He said 4th gear not 4k rpm

Misha 01-04-2007 03:05 PM

RE: Best oil & filter for a stock y8 and spirited driving?
 
My bad [:o]

Kedawei 01-04-2007 03:24 PM

RE: Best oil & filter for a stock y8 and spirited driving?
 
I've never heard of Honda OEM oil, nor have I seen a place to buy it online.

:edit: Except for lawnmowers.

ej6buddy 01-04-2007 03:26 PM

RE: Best oil & filter for a stock y8 and spirited driving?
 
mobil one and a honda filter, and they don't make a 1996 si

Misha 01-04-2007 03:32 PM

RE: Best oil & filter for a stock y8 and spirited driving?
 

ORIGINAL: Kedawei

I've never heard of Honda OEM oil, nor have I seen a place to buy it online.

:edit: Except for lawnmowers.

I buy it at the nearest stealership ( ~ 1.5miles ) for my 03 Si lawnmower :D

Actually, if you read the fine print it's Mobil 1, but it says it's specifically formulated for Honda...

brokenarmboy19 01-04-2007 03:34 PM

RE: Best oil & filter for a stock y8 and spirited driving?
 
Royal Purple oil and a K&N oil filter that is what i use and swear by it

cderalow 01-04-2007 03:48 PM

RE: Best oil & filter for a stock y8 and spirited driving?
 

ORIGINAL: ej6buddy

mobil one and a honda filter, and they don't make a 1996 si
they do/did if you're a fine citizen of that country north of michigan

canadians don't have an EX (or didn't)

they had DX, LX, Si, SiR

ej6buddy 01-04-2007 03:58 PM

RE: Best oil & filter for a stock y8 and spirited driving?
 
whoops, completely forgot about that, sorry

riceburner700 01-04-2007 09:48 PM

RE: Best oil & filter for a stock y8 and spirited driving?
 
i had royal purple then switched to mobil 1 synthetic with a oem filter. cost cheaper and works just as good

Savatage 01-05-2007 12:27 AM

RE: Best oil & filter for a stock y8 and spirited driving?
 
i use moble 1 filter and royal purple, i have heard some good things about the K&N filter too

edit: royal purple 5w 30 but im thinking about switching to moble 1 0w 30

Forty04 01-05-2007 08:17 AM

RE: Best oil & filter for a stock y8 and spirited driving?
 
Valvoline Full Syn and OEM oil filter

Talon585 01-05-2007 01:43 PM

RE: Best oil & filter for a stock y8 and spirited driving?
 
Valvoline high-mileage oil with fram oil filter.

Misha 01-05-2007 03:00 PM

RE: Best oil & filter for a stock y8 and spirited driving?
 
WOW! the whole spectrum! Guess it does not matter than - use whatever you like better :D

Savatage 01-05-2007 05:38 PM

RE: Best oil & filter for a stock y8 and spirited driving?
 
friends dont let friends use fram filters [sm=smiley20.gif]

StifflersMom 01-05-2007 06:34 PM

RE: Best oil & filter for a stock y8 and spirited driving?
 
Fram straight-up sucks...I compared it to the pure one and the K&N filters (discoloration and smell tests as well as cutting the things apart) and I have to say I will only use K&N. As far as oil goes I used Valvoline full synthetic and nothing else. Although if your engine is burning oil I wouldn't recommend synthetic - it leaks through quicker.

Method 01-05-2007 06:38 PM

RE: Best oil & filter for a stock y8 and spirited driving?
 

ORIGINAL: Savatage

friends dont let friends use fram filters [sm=smiley20.gif]
why?

Misha 01-05-2007 06:45 PM

RE: Best oil & filter for a stock y8 and spirited driving?
 
I saw several sites with research on this on the net. All agree that fram = crap [:'(]

Fiirkan 01-05-2007 07:00 PM

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ORIGINAL: Method


ORIGINAL: Savatage

friends dont let friends use fram filters [sm=smiley20.gif]
why?

They are made of cardboard, and can break where as the OEM ones are metal.

OEM FTMFW!!

brokenarmboy19 01-05-2007 07:55 PM

RE: Best oil & filter for a stock y8 and spirited driving?
 
oil and filter choice is like women some dudes have a thing for the ugly fat ones and others Angelina Jolie


basicly if you do reaserch you will end up with royal purple and K&N because when it comes down to it would you rather put in your car what they put in ferrari's from the factory(mobile 1) or what they put in 8000hp top fuel drag cars(royal purple) that will do 1/4 mile at around 250mph in what it a ferrari will do 60

then again i don't drive a ferrari or a top fueler so buy whatever
but i prefer Rp and K&N

SilverSedan 01-06-2007 12:53 PM

RE: Best oil & filter for a stock y8 and spirited driving?
 
just a bit of info that my bro sent to me...I found it very interesting. He's into Hyundai's but I won't hold it against him (he's family after all!!)

http://63.240.161.99/motoroil/ (school of Motor oil)

http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/ (info on oil)

thought everyone might be interested




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