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i still cant figure out the best deal. its confusing. can someone give me some advice on what to do.
i was looking into doing a mini me and added all the prices on what i need. i have 98DX.

Y8 head- - $250
Y8 Intake Manifold- - $100
Y8 Throttle Body - $100
Y8 Fuel Rail - $50
Y8 Fuel Injectors - $40
P28 ECU - $50
Head Gasket - $40
Intake manifold Gasket - $20
Throttle Body Gasket - $2
Exhaust Manifold Gasket - $20
Timing Belt - $20
96-00 Honda Civic EX Spark Plugs - $40
T3/T4 TURB- - $930

TOTAL - $1662
TOTAL W/O TURBO - $732

BUT. then all i have to do is like save a little more bucks to get......

b16 complete swap - $2000
b18 complete swap - $2700
h22 complete swap - $1500

. so let me know what you believe the best deal is. thank you.

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alright this has been gone over many of times so try the search

but ill give you my opinion on the whole deal

i had a d series motor with v tech and was not happy with it, i found someone who would do the swap for cheap. i got the lsd tranny as well and it all came out to 3200 bucks i believe. this is with everything, the axels, edu, mounts, etc. i think this was def the best thing i could have done because i dont know how much longer my engine would have lasted. if i would have boosted the d series, i would have rebuilt my motor and sleeved it and then i would have boosted it. its just a preference, do you want dohc or sohc? do you want the turbo now or later?

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yesh, i know its been gone over but still confusing.
id like a dohc but i think it would be pretty awesome to beat dohc's with my single... i just want to beat some of the comp around my town. so if i mini me with turbo what all would i be able to beat? im not realy ready to spend s h i t loads of money. and if i f u c k up the d16. its only 300 for a hole new one.

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Mini me and boost.

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mini me and boost will walk on those other swaps with alot less money spent

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if you get the swap you have more room for expansion than witha boosted D

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i would just by a d16y8 and drop that in there for about 600 bucks or convert to obd1 and drop in the d16z6 for 600 bucks and then use the rest for a bitchen turbo set up... then you will walk all over so many cars

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mini me and boost. show that a single can beat dohc's.

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Swap in a Z6 and boost it. Cheaper and better imo.

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thanks alot. i was leaning more on mini me. so mini me it is. ill have pics later.

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dude,you did NOT just say v tech

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do some better researching on those prices for d16y8 parts. i got the throttle body, intake mani, sensors, and fuel rail/injectors for under $150 in very good condition. and the head i can get for $196 with solenoid and every single gasket that you'd need too. i personally like my d and wouldn't plan on getting a b anytime soon. i'd just say build up the d and boost like many others. sure you have more room for expansion, but it will cost less to go the d route, especially if you just want to beat up a little competition. i wouldn't think there are any nascars racing you. :)

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haha naw no nascars. but mustangs and crap. what would u guys say the hp and tq and 1/4 times be with a y7-y8mini me with decent turbo setup?? my friend with a hatch got k20 swap and has 200 hp running 13's. would i be able to keep up with that?

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not really. i know pete ran 14.8 or something in his 5G EX-T...and sacs ran 14.6-14.8 with his GSR swapped 5G DX. you can boost your D and hold 'em but once they get into bolt ons you wont see anything but tails.

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Marty ran near 14 flat with his old sedan.. i would think with the right WR and a good turbo tune you should be able to break into the 13's if you can drive.. someone correct me if wrong ..

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oh i agree...but with a B the breath of your mods is much bigger. how many sub-12 D's do you see? not many. how many sub-12 B's? a ton more than D's. really if you have any power goals more than 300-350hp and any significant amount of torque you want to go with a bigger engine.

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haha forty i did say a d series v-tech

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This is true I did run 14 falt in a full weight 98 sedan. I could have been in the 13's but I had some cheap ass $20 a peice econo tires and bad heat soak. A ef with say a boosted Z6 with stuff like ps, ac, spare tire/jack removed along with some lighter weight rims like some 15 inch rota's is a easy mid 13 second car and could fetch low 13's with a good driver.

It all boils down to what you want in the end, if you are going to be happy with a 13 second car which IMO is plenty for allmost everybody then it is cheaper and way smarter to stay with a D series as you can get those times with boost and a good tune along with good driving. When you start reaching for low 12's and high 11's and below IMO it is better to move on to a different platform.