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omgxitsxaxhb 02-06-2005 11:08 PM

engine trouble.. plz help
 
im in the market for a new engine.. but i CANNOT decide what i want....

ok going for mostly drag.... light to light.... what engine do you suggest?
I Was thing either H22 or B18c5.... RSX(k20) so many choices... whats THE best.

ohbiskits 02-06-2005 11:10 PM

RE: engine trouble.. plz help
 
what year civic are we talking about?

omgxitsxaxhb 02-06-2005 11:18 PM

RE: engine trouble.. plz help
 
98 HbK

ohbiskits 02-06-2005 11:21 PM

RE: engine trouble.. plz help
 
id say b18 for the money but if u have the money to put up for a h22 or a k20 swap...go for it

blackeyes 02-06-2005 11:30 PM

RE: engine trouble.. plz help
 
if u have the money, wich is a $hit load of, k20a2 baby.

omgxitsxaxhb 02-06-2005 11:35 PM

RE: engine trouble.. plz help
 
so h22 is a no? i was told to get a b20 from crv... but they only have 130 hp ..h22 is like 190.
the b20 could be built up better and withhold more compression with turbo better then k20.. so he says.. he has a k20... mabey he just dont want me to get faster then him, aey?

sacicons 02-07-2005 12:24 AM

RE: engine trouble.. plz help
 
if you want a car that is quick, but youre not gonna go crazy on, go with the b20, but not the 126 horse one, get the 99-01 one, it has higher compression and like 146 HP. with the torque those motors have, youll drop most dragers before they have a chance to hit the vtec changeover. it wont be the fastest car in the world, but itll be a blast to drive, and if you decide to get serious, you can always build the hell out of it. and it weighs so nearly the same as other b-series motors, id prefer it over the h22, even sans VTEC. but overall, the b20 is an suv motor, not a race motor, its not given the custom balancing job that the DOHC VTECs are, so it wont live up to the abuse of racing as long. but, on the other hand, they are freakin cheap compared to other b-series. and if you cant get an LSD tranny, be sure to get one from a non-vtec, as the vtec gear ratios will kill your times. oh yeah, and dont street race.

omgxitsxaxhb 02-07-2005 09:19 AM

RE: engine trouble.. plz help
 
what it you get a h22 and change the vtch kick in to 3 1/2k instead of 5k? then make turbos kick in at 4 1/2 or 5k.. and get LSD tranny so you rev it high on take off.... wouldnt that give ya a perty darn good launch?

sacicons 02-07-2005 09:22 PM

RE: engine trouble.. plz help
 
if the vtec switches to soon, it will hurt power. and a turbo that kicks in at 4500 is too damn big for a civic. but the LSD is a must, no matter what motor you decide on. though with the b20, youll need an aftermarket one.

Kappa22 02-07-2005 10:22 PM

RE: engine trouble.. plz help
 
Yeah, VTEC is not something to be adjusted on a whim. There's a reason it hits when it does. But I personally think that if you choose a B20, in the long run you'll find yourself wishing you had done something else (once you discover that torque just isn't enough to make you happy...)

94VTECoupe 02-08-2005 10:46 PM

RE: engine trouble.. plz help
 
A friend of a friend had a super built car that did the 8's in the quarter mile. Before he tor it apart and built it for a turbo, it did 10's naturally aspirated. It was some kind of B18 VTEC, I believe it was a C5.

Kappa22 02-08-2005 11:37 PM

RE: engine trouble.. plz help
 
Yeah, most likely.

Dickie 02-09-2005 07:52 AM

RE: engine trouble.. plz help
 
type r motors are fast, period... but i thought that people used em for pure n/a and not turbo? because of the compresion. personally, id go with the b18c5, itd be a blast to drive.

sacicons 02-09-2005 08:25 AM

RE: engine trouble.. plz help
 
people use them for turbo too, but its just really expensive and usually needs to be rebuilt to handle much boost.

blackeyes 02-09-2005 10:01 PM

RE: engine trouble.. plz help
 
if u did have an h22 i would say just us it for track us and thas it.

omgxitsxaxhb 02-09-2005 10:22 PM

RE: engine trouble.. plz help
 
thenx a lot everyone.. ive perty much decited on b18.. ive learned a lot since i 1st posted this. a lot of reading.... ive read more in 3 weeks then it 15yrs. :eek:

sacicons 02-09-2005 10:32 PM

RE: engine trouble.. plz help
 
good call. b18c1 c5 or non-vtec b18b?

omgxitsxaxhb 02-09-2005 10:43 PM

RE: engine trouble.. plz help
 
i have a guy that can get engines.... if he cant get me b18c5 then im gunna go with the gsr

94VTECoupe 02-09-2005 11:13 PM

RE: engine trouble.. plz help
 
yeah the engine that he boosted he tore apart and built the **** out of it so it could handle the turbo. The guy before him had it n/a and it got really good times already before it was rebuilt for turbo.

omgxitsxaxhb 02-11-2005 12:32 PM

RE: engine trouble.. plz help
 
so could i turbo the c5 or the gsr.. can they handle tha psi? or wouldi have to build the **** outta them.

-- yesterday i was riding with my friend in his altama and this guy in a gsr(i think) pulled up so we revved up and he just laughed at us.... so we said we want to race so we went to the place to race... we lined up an i asked.. what engine u got.. he replys.. "GSR muiah ah ah ah".... and im like ****... where about to loose! but we smoked this guy... SOOOO... so do you realy think it was a GSR. cuz he should have smoked us.. or mabey the dude just didnt know how to race... cuz this altama is slow as ****.

Kappa22 02-11-2005 03:08 PM

RE: engine trouble.. plz help
 
You can boost either one; they can handle fairly mild (C5) to moderate (GSR) boost just fine. Overall, the GSR motor can handle more due to its lower CR. If you end up building them for higher boost, you will actually have to build the C5 more to handle it than you will the C1.

And as for the race, my money is on him lying about his car or not knowing how to drive.


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