what can i do with $1000???
 

i have a 1995 automatic dx sedan, i've been looking at complete engine swaps and mini me swaps, i would really like to get a b18c and build it up but that seems a little expensive, i could do it but it would probably take a long time to complete it, then i was looking at mini me, a lot cheaper but it doesn't seem like much of an increase in power, so what would you guys suggest, save for a b18c or do a mini me, also what all can be done to a mini me to make it faster?
thanks in advance for any and all help

RE: what can i do with $1000???
 

for starters do a tranny swap

RE: what can i do with $1000???
 

well whatever route i take a tranny swap will be included, i guess i should have mentioned that

RE: what can i do with $1000???
 

What is a mini me setup?

RE: what can i do with $1000???
 

I would do the mini-me since it's easier and less money. Plus it's a bolt on 25HP (not to mention the VTEC). I plan on doing one myself.


Well, there's a couple different types, but basically it is where you take a non-VTEC block and put aVTEC head on it.In this case it will be a D15B7 (non-VTEC) block with a D16Z6 (VTEC) head.



mini-me info: https://www.hondacivicforum.com/m_45390/tm.htm

RE: what can i do with $1000???
 

are there other things i could do to a mini me to make it more powerful

RE: what can i do with $1000???
 

You mean after you do the mini-me? There are tons of things you can do if you have the time, knowledge, and money. You could build the engine up and install a good turbo setup with a good tuneif you wanted - but not for $1000.

Do you have a header, exhaust, or intake system yet? If not you should definitely start with that. And even if you do those first, they will all work with the mini-me and your current engine, so if you decide to do header/intake/exhaust now, and then the mini-me later, you don't need to go buy a newheader/intake/exhaustbecause it will bolt right up to either head.



I forgot to add - the D series is a lot more reliable than the B series. But of course the B is going to be faster... it's a DOHC.

RE: what can i do with $1000???
 

Oops, miss type. Disregard.

RE: what can i do with $1000???
 

i currently don't have any mods to my engine, i was thinking about turboing down the line, could it handle a turbo ok?

RE: what can i do with $1000???
 

do a compression test and then we'll know if your engine could handle. I'd get togetehr another $1000 and get a reliable boosted DD. Run a low level of boost, 6-10 PSI at about 200 hp (its all about the hp, not the PSI), on a good tune you'd be good. So! You're halfway to the money, but you need knowledge, which can be obtained at the stickies in the Nitrous, Turbo, Supercharger section

RE: what can i do with $1000???
 

It should handle a turbo fine on stock internals as long as you keep the boost low. 6-8 psi should be fine (assuming your engine is ready/in good condition). But beware, the reliabililty of the engine goes down when you add a turbo into the mix.

Before you even buy the first thing for a turbo kit, make sure you read and read and read. Just do searches on the forum or google and just read what everyone has to say about everything.

Here's a list of what you'll need. https://www.hondacivicforum.com/m_400322/tm.htm
This will get you started on understanding what components are in a turbo kit, and then just make sure you know what everything does. Then search around and read what people have done, and what is recommended. Just don't buy a no-name turbo kit from eBay. If the priceseems too good to be true, it probably is.


can I have $1000 too? jk


EDIT: forgot to give you the link when I said "here's a list of what you'll need"

RE: what can i do with $1000???
 

mini me is looking a lot better, cheaper, easier, and still decent numbers
in all the articles i've been reading about the mini me, people are using 93 octane,
is this required? or is 83 octane fine to use?

RE: what can i do with $1000???
 

83? I hope you mean 87. I think 87 should be fine.

RE: what can i do with $1000???
 

oops lol, yeah i meant 87, you guys have been a huge help, thanks for your time, will definately be reading around for a while before i do anything, thanks again:D

RE: what can i do with $1000???
 

If you are going to do a Mini-me swap and a manual swap why not just swap in a D16Z6, or JDM D15B. when it all comes down to it you would spend about the same if not less for a swap

RE: what can i do with $1000???
 

what would be the benefit of the complete swap over a mini me, and whats the difference between the d16z6 and jdm d15?

RE: what can i do with $1000???
 

I have a d16y8 head if you are interested in doing the mini-me...

RE: what can i do with $1000???
 

if you did a complete swap you could buy an engine with the manual transmission attached to it. If you're going to be doing transmission and head, why not just do the whole engine? It's going to be about the same price to swap as it would be to do a tranny swap and mini me, maybe less. JDM D15B has 5hp more than the d16z6, hasa tiny bit more torque, has higher compression, and hasless displacement. Also has the same head as the d16z6, just a different block. The d16z6 will probably be easier to find, but on ebay there are a lot of D15B's selling that have low mileage on them.

D15B (JDM)
[ul][*]VTEC[*]Found in:
[ul][*]1991-1999 Honda Civic VTi EG4 (Japanese Market)
[ul][*]Displacement: 1493 cm³[*]Bore and Stroke: 75 mm X 84.5 mm[*]Rod Length: 137 mm[*]Compression: 9.6:1[*]Power: 130hp (97kW) @ 5800 rpm & 102 ft·lbf @ 4200 rpm[*]Redline: 7200 rpm[*]Fuel Cut: 7411 rpm[*]Valvetrain: SOHC VTEC[*]Head Code: P08 (same head as D16Z6)[*]Fuel Control: OBD-1 MPFI [/ul][/ul][/ul]
D16Z6
[ul][*]Found in
[ul][*]1992-1995 Honda Civic (ex/si)[*]1993-1995 Honda Del Sol Si (only USDM)
[ul][*]Displacement: 1590 cm³[*]Bore and Stroke: 75 mm X 90 mm[*]Compression: 9.2:1[*]Power: 125hp (93kW) @ 5800 rpm & 106 ft·lbf @ 4500 rpm[*]Redline: 7200 rpm[*]Fuel Cut: 7411 rpm[*]Valvetrain: SOHC VTEC[*]Fuel Control: OBD-1 MPFI[*]Head Code: P08[*]ECU Code: P28 [/ul][/ul][/ul]

RE: what can i do with $1000???
 

A swap to a D16z6 would be a good idea, you get the tranny, a better engine, and a D16z6 is a good engine to boost as a DD. You could do the full swap then take some leftover money and at least get and intake, and the would be a good start.

RE: what can i do with $1000???
 

ok i think i have a plan, tell me what you think,
first do a tranny swap (ex/si tranny?)
second complete d16z6 or jdm d15b swap with I/H/E
third turbo it later on when i have more money
if anyone has anything to add please do

RE: what can i do with $1000???
 

Dont do i/h/e if you plan to turbo, chances are all theywill goto waste because with a turbo, you will replace all of those when you install it.

Do a complete swap, dont do spread it out, you would probably get a trans anyway with a d16Z6, and it would be cheaper. Plus, you have to rip out the engine and do alot of workgoingfrom auto to man., you might as well get it all dont at once. much less hassle.

RE: what can i do with $1000???
 

you would do the tranny and engine swap at the same time, i don't think i will be able to afford a turbo for a little while, so i guess i would just leave it as a stock swap

RE: what can i do with $1000???
 

try to get an engine that comes with the transmission. you can find a lot of engines in good condition on ebay.

RE: what can i do with $1000???
 

what about these
http://www.hmotorsonline.com/shop/sc...amp;item=30021
and
http://www.procivic.com/pages-produc...651/index.html

RE: what can i do with $1000???
 

do a complete swap... then your up to say 127hp with a d16z6 or d16y8 or something

then with your 1000 buy i/h/e thatll bebetween$500-700 depending on how cheap you go,and get those sweet pulstar spark plugs they are like $24.95a plug and they give you 10% more hp and torque, from what ive read. now your up to $600-800

finally get yourself a chipped ecu from phearable, tell him your mods and he will send you a sweet basemap that will add another 10whp cuz he will correct your a/f for your i/h/e.. those are $200

theres your grand, after you do your swap of course, but it would at least put you up to being 130-140whp, which is as fast if not faster than a b16

unless your going big with a turbo, then ignore what i said, but if you want to go n/a and just want a little more pep in your step thats how i would do it... but i would have nitrous [sm=badbadbad.gif]

RE: what can i do with $1000???
 

That engine looks good, but remember you need the tranny and ECU also, so that will cost you $825 plus shipping andhandling(expensive)from that site. you might be able to find a better deal on ebay.

That turbo kit is good of course, but you can surely piece together your own kit for cheaper.

RE: what can i do with $1000???
 

thats only 127HP to the crank, not the wheels though.

You should buy the plugs that are indicated for use on your timing belt cover (one step colder than those if you're running turbo).

10% more HP and torque from sparkplugs can't be true.

RE: what can i do with $1000???
 

for a turbo can the same one be used for the d16z6 and d15b, i'm gonna look at the junk yard for motor and tranny too

RE: what can i do with $1000???
 

If you dont find anything you can do with the grand, you could always give it to me..;)

RE: what can i do with $1000???
 

yes, the turbo exhaust manifold will bolt up to either one, and the charge piping will fit onto either engine's throttle body.

RE: what can i do with $1000???
 

they ignite 2x faster than normal plugs, making fuel ignite 2x faster, meaning your piston gets thrusted down harder burning the same ammount of fuel.. causing more hp and torque

pulstarplugs.com

108 or something at the wheels...

RE: what can i do with $1000???
 

ok so i could run about 8psi on stock internals, how much hp would that be
and if i built up the engine internals, how much boost could i run and
what hp would i be getting

RE: what can i do with $1000???
 

what can i use off of my d15b7 to put on the d16z6 if anything?

RE: what can i do with $1000???
 

go to the casino, put your 1 grand on the table, and double it! then you have 2 grand n can have a pretty nice turbo setup haha


just kidding

RE: what can i do with $1000???
 

you can use the d15b7 intake manifold and throttle body on the d16z6. I'm pretty sure the throttle body is the same, however the intake manifold has bigger runners (better) on the d16z6. I would recommend using the d16z6 intake manifold if you can, but you don't have to.

The exhaust manifold is the same so you can reuse that.

You can reuse the head bolts.


Thats about it.


It should all be listed in the mini-me DIY that I posted a link to.

RE: what can i do with $1000???
 

idk what hp for you to expect, but your engine will be stronger with the built internals, and will last longer while boosted. If you build it and boost it, it will definitely be faster than just boosted on stock internals.

RE: what can i do with $1000???
 

yeah i'm definately going to build it first, if i'm going to do this, i'm going to do it right and not halfass it

RE: what can i do with $1000???
 

yea, it's definitely worth doing right. I mean, who wants to blow their motor? lol. Plus, you'll see bigger gains with the built engine.

RE: what can i do with $1000???
 

thanks for all of your help, i really appreciate it