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Old Feb 2, 2009 | 03:59 AM
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Alright, so in the pursuit for more power and a higher miles per gallon mods, the three ones i'm looking at are new headers, cold air intake, and different cat converter. (i have a 2005 Civic EX)

I have been trying to get someone to explain the different between cheap brands on ebay piping/intakes/headers and the good brands like aem/dc etc. Maybe you guys can help.

The intakes i'm looking at: got cheap/k&n/aem in that order:
http://carpart4u.com/honda-civic-ex-...h-pr-6166.html
http://www.ilovebodykits.com/product...2002-2005.html
http://www.ilovebodykits.com/product...loveBODYK.html
These are all for my car, all aluminum, and as mentioned in a previous thread, no matter what piping i get, i'll get an AEM filter.

For headers, i have DC and cheap one...
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/DC-SP...ayphotohosting
http://store.racer-union.com/Shop/Co...141/rid/126363
I looked at DC, it was ceramic, so i looked for a cheap ceramic header that looks the same... i can't tell a difference...

For exhaust, i want to stay emissions legal. I was going with magnaflow... since they seem like the only epa certified stuff out there. But, i found 2 different kinds, the second one looks just like a test pipe, says it basically runs like one, but it's epa certified... sounds cool.
http://www.procivic.com/pages-produc...converter.html
http://www.procivic.com/pages-produc...916/index.html
Both OBDII compliant...

Help me out if you can guys, i just don't see why people would spend the extra money if it's the same material(alum/ceramic) and they are basically the same thing, it's just piping.
 
Old Feb 2, 2009 | 04:43 AM
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i have an 04 and i have aem v2, megan header, and magnaflow exhaust. its actually a pretty good sounding combo. i say the v2 because its not the same piping
 
Old Feb 2, 2009 | 07:02 AM
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Yeah but what i was mainly trying to ask was that is the AEM intake, any different than the cheap intake i have posted above? They are both aluminum piping, not much difference can be made in piping, or atleast i think. Trying to get someone to prove otherwise... or agreement. lol

As well as the headers, if both the 39$ and the 285$ (DC) are ceramic, and look the same... what's the difference? why pay 246$ more for name?

For the exhaust... that's just swapping the cat converters, i want to stay OBDII accepted, and not sure if anyone heard of the second, looks like a straight through test pipe, but still says OBDII certified, and would be higher HP increase than the other.
 
Old Feb 2, 2009 | 02:55 PM
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just remember you get what you pay for. fitment issues, bad welding etc... might be an issue, you never know. aem and dc are good products for a reason. as far as intake, just make sure you have a good filter, that WILL make a difference in quality.
 
Old Feb 5, 2009 | 08:00 AM
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and would a VAFC be helping in tuning these?

I think i'm going with just AEM v2, DC headers, magnaflow cat, but convert to a 2.5" exhaust, someone is now mentioning a VAFC for tuning purposes? Anyone disagree?
 
Old Feb 5, 2009 | 12:34 PM
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don't use a VAFC
they're gay

you don't need to tune for intake/header/exhaust... it would help a little, but it's not worth the money unless you have a lot of money to spend. VAFC's are piggybacks anyway and I wouldn't recommend using one.
 
Old Feb 6, 2009 | 04:22 AM
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Alright thanks trust, the few people i know in person that work on cars were pushing for a VAFC but i didn't know what use it was really.
 
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don't use a VAFC
they're gay

you don't need to tune for intake/header/exhaust... it would help a little, but it's not worth the money unless you have a lot of money to spend. VAFC's are piggybacks anyway and I wouldn't recommend using one.
there not bad, if you can find one for cheap you might be able to get 10-15 hp out of a tune on the 7th gens. Looks on 7th gen.com and read up on it if you don't believe it.
 
Old Feb 6, 2009 | 09:25 AM
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Alright will do, i tend to trust trust, because he's got a del sol too! (First car i did anything with was a '93 del sol... working on the '05 now lol)
 
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Originally Posted by Aaron_EX
there not bad, if you can find one for cheap you might be able to get 10-15 hp out of a tune on the 7th gens. Looks on 7th gen.com and read up on it if you don't believe it.
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Alright will do, i tend to trust trust, because he's got a del sol too! (First car i did anything with was a '93 del sol... working on the '05 now lol)
I completely forgot we were talking about a 7th gen when I said not to use a VAFC. I don't know anything at all about tuning 01-05 Civics (as far as what hardware to use). You may be forced to use a piggyback unit.

Ideally, you would want to use a chipped ECU. But, on 7th gens i'm pretty sure this isn't an option.
 

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