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Ocellaris 11-07-2011 11:33 AM

Changed spark wires now can't turn over
 
Okay, what stupid thing could I have done?

I bought new spark plug wires. Changed them one at a time, now the car won't turn over. Confused, I put the old ones back on the same way. Some thing.

I looked in the Haynes Manual, and it had a different firing order. Changes them according to manual and sounded worse. So I looked up the firing order for my 1.5 engine on google, which happened to be like how they were. Still nothing.

Can anyone suggest anything?

cvcrcr99 11-07-2011 12:22 PM

Are you replacing the plugs in addition to the wires? How about the distributor cap and rotor? If they are not being replaced, have you inspected them for damage/wear?

What engine do you have?

Ocellaris 11-07-2011 12:30 PM

I replaced the plugs last week. Car ran better, but still a little rough. So I replaced the fuel pump and filter. Ran even better, but still not great. Evened out my idling but still felt it misfiring a little. So today I wanted to change the wires and next week get to the distributor and rotor. I haven't done anything to the D and R.

Ocellaris 11-07-2011 12:49 PM

I replaced the plugs last week. Car ran better, but still a little rough. So I replaced the fuel pump and filter. Ran even better, but still not great. Evened out my idling but still felt it misfiring a little. So today I wanted to change the wires and next week get to the distributor and rotor. I haven't done anything to the D and R.

Ocellaris 11-07-2011 12:53 PM

WTF??? Double post.

I just know it's a 1.5 16 valve.

Okay, I took apart the distributor. There's corrosion, even on the cover inside. Must be copper. It's green corrosion with white spots as well.

Now I get to bike to O'Reily's.

Ocellaris 11-07-2011 02:01 PM

Damn, changed the cap and rotor. Same thing. It's acting like a woman. Almost there to get started, but just not quite enough.

Ocellaris 11-07-2011 02:06 PM

Without stepping on the gas. When I turn the key, the starter sounds great for like one turn. Then it acts like a lot of power is being drained from the battery. Sometimes I can hear the exhaust kick on with a poof.

mk378 11-07-2011 02:31 PM

That will happen when the wires are in the wrong order. A cylinder firing at the wrong time turns the engine backwards against the starter instead of forward.

Just to be clear, the order is 1-3-4-2 going clockwise looking at the outside of the cap. Cylinder #1 is furthest from the distributor and 4 is the closest. Position #1 on the cap is one of the two on the side toward the back of the car. Usually there is a mark on the cap to designate number 1.

Ocellaris 11-07-2011 02:54 PM

Yeah, I got that. Out of curiosity I pulled out the wire plugs and tried to start the car. To hear what it would sound like, knowing it wouldn't start. Sounds the exact same.

I will recheck the firing order of what I have.

Sucks, because I was going to change these, get it re-timed and an alignment done tomorrow. This is the first car I really worked on and was nervous about the fuel pump, but a job that requires no tools is where I failed.

Ocellaris 11-07-2011 03:04 PM

http://www.google.com/search?tbm=isc...2AWi3-jMDQ#i=5


I have been going off this diagram. Like what you said. It keeps cranking but doesn't start. Hmmmm.....


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