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Old Dec 4, 2007 | 05:06 PM
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what you think?

im not sure if its a problem or isnt a problem..

it only does this when its cold. ive took 2 videos of it but the first one is kinda dark, second one i made the motor ran about 20-30seconds before the video started and has a flash light on the tach so you can see it beter....

to me its acting like the fast idle WANTS to kick out... but then kicks back up.... sometimes it does it OVER AND OVER AND OVER.... but always seems to stop after the motors ran for afew mins....


first video kinda dark... SORRY but is preaty cold startup full run time till it idles down. speed thru the first 1/3rd
http://s40.photobucket.com/albums/e2...4civicrmps.flv


2nd video.. motor ran about 30secons before video starts..... had to pull the car outta the garage...
http://s40.photobucket.com/albums/e2...=civicrpm2.flv





im not sure if its something that can be fixed or typical? i dont like it jumping like that... more anoying than anything... so if i can fix it id like to fix it
 
Old Dec 4, 2007 | 05:44 PM
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Have you done anything to try and diagnose the problem? there are several possible causes of "surging idle"
 
Old Dec 4, 2007 | 07:09 PM
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I guess I will throw a couple of obvious ideas out there for you:

1) A faulty Fast Idle Valve (see picture).

2) A dirty or faulty EACV.

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Old Dec 5, 2007 | 01:19 AM
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Have you done anything to try and diagnose the problem? there are several possible causes of "surging idle"
no cause im not even sure WHAT the problem areas could be.... its nothing to bad... just seems to do alittle jumping..... im curious if it does that on alot of peoples civics or is it most likely a problem starting...
 
Old Dec 5, 2007 | 06:40 AM
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is it the rpms and the engine fluctuating or just the needle in the dash, and the engine doesnt fluctuate?
 
Old Dec 5, 2007 | 06:52 AM
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I guess I will throw a couple of obvious ideas out there for you:

1) A faulty Fast Idle Valve (see picture).

2) A dirty or faulty EACV.
Could also be that your idle just needs to be adjusted. Or air bubbles in your coolant.
 
Old Dec 5, 2007 | 07:31 AM
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is it the rpms and the engine fluctuating or just the needle in the dash, and the engine doesnt fluctuate?

There's a VIDEO ----- It's the engine as well.
 
Old Dec 5, 2007 | 12:56 PM
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I guess I will throw a couple of obvious ideas out there for you:

1) A faulty Fast Idle Valve (see picture).

2) A dirty or faulty EACV.
Could also be that your idle just needs to be adjusted. Or air bubbles in your coolant.
hum... guess it could be air bubbles... i wonder if they work thier way out over time or not.... i replaced all the hoses on the motor so it could be that.....
 
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Could also be that your idle just needs to be adjusted. Or air bubbles in your coolant.
Just curious. How would bubbles in the coolant affect idle control? In theory, would bubbles get trapped in or block flow through the Fast Idle Valve and cause temperature fluctuations?
 
Old Dec 5, 2007 | 01:09 PM
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Coolant flows through the valve, and a sensor uses the engine temperature to determine the idle speed. If there is a giant air bubble in the valve and no coolant is getting in there, it doesn't know the actual engine temperature, and it gets confused
 



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