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Old Dec 4, 2008 | 06:10 AM
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Nothing happened, no crank, no nothing. I know for sure that the headlights come on, as I recall they stay on with the key but I will double check later to confirm. Also mk, i read in another thread with a similar problem you suggested it could be the ignition switch itself....my cousin did mention a few months back that the ignition switch may have been on the way out, maybe coincidence? I will be calling an auto electrical guy to see if I can get him to check it out more thoroughly than I can.
 

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Old Dec 5, 2008 | 05:55 AM
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Another update: Tested the starter as you described last night, the starter clicks once (guess you would call that a response). Checked the dash, the battery and check engine lights come on as they should and the brake light goes off as it should since the lever isn't up. Removed jumper wire and placed back wire removed from the starter, turned the key, no battery or check engine light and the brake light stays on. Almost forgot, headlights stay on even with key turned, confirmed this also last night.
 
Old Dec 5, 2008 | 06:15 AM
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Do you hear the same click from the starter when you turn the key? If so, it's either the big wire between the battery and starter, or more likely a bad starter. (wasn't one of your other threads about intermittently clicking but not starting? Did you ever replace it? Or was that someone else?)
 
Old Dec 5, 2008 | 06:48 AM
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The starter is connected to two wires, a black wire that provides battery power to the starter motor and a black/white wire that provides battery power to the starter solenoid. The solenoid must be activated with battery power in order for the starter motor to receive battery power. Given that the starter solenoid clicks when it is jumpered to the battery, the starter solenoid is likely fine.

Therefore, the possible causes for the starter not running are:
1) The starter motor is bad.
2) The black wire is damaged and therefore not supplying battery power to the starter motor.

Possibility (2) is easily tested using a multimeter to measure whether the black wire connected to the starter has 12V. If so, you probably need to replace the starter.
 
Old Dec 5, 2008 | 09:28 AM
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Yes mk, one of my threads was about intermittently clicking but not starting, but the problem went away (or so I thought) as I told you guys I would have monitored before I went and got a starter so I never got to replace it. That thread was just a few weeks ago as I recall. My father took time out of his busy schedule this morning to check, he confirmed that the starter is the cause of the problem. Hopefully that's all that is. When I change the starter should I keep the old one? I mean that's if they come with a solenoid already, since as RonJ said, if the solenoid clicks then that part is likely fine.
 
Old Dec 5, 2008 | 10:33 AM
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Usually the starter is replaced as a unit by trading it for a rebuilt one. The solenoid and motor parts are not sold separately, it is considered one unit. (Some people do deal with them separately, but that is an advanced technical thing).

You get money back after trading in the bad one so they can rebuild it. But do not return your "core" starter to the store until AFTER the new one is on the car and working. This goes for any time you install a rebuilt part.
 

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Old Dec 5, 2008 | 12:19 PM
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Once again not in the US lol. Thanks you guys for all your help. Will update on the status as soon as I can get a starter and install it.
 
Old Dec 6, 2008 | 11:43 AM
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So I got a starter today and it wasn't the problem but I'll keep that in case it ever goes out since I got it @ a real good deal. Turns out I need electrical work but the guy won't be back til tomorrow who's gonna do it for me. I got someone to take a look at it and he temporarily ran a wire from the - post of the battery to the ground of the thermo housing. Car starts like charm, the thing is now even my radiator fan turns on as it didn't before. I know I shouldn't drive like this with temp hookup so as soon as possible I wanna get that sorted out the proper way.
 
Old Dec 6, 2008 | 04:27 PM
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So it's a ground problem. He has merely bypassed the big ground wire that goes from battery minus to the car's frame and then to a bolt on the transmission. Check that those connections are clean and tight. Remove the bolts, clean the surface underneath and the terminal lug, then reinstall the bolt. Disconnect the battery first of course.
 
Old Dec 6, 2008 | 06:14 PM
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Originally Posted by kma
So I got a starter today and it wasn't the problem but I'll keep that in case it ever goes out since I got it @ a real good deal. Turns out I need electrical work but the guy won't be back til tomorrow who's gonna do it for me. I got someone to take a look at it and he temporarily ran a wire from the - post of the battery to the ground of the thermo housing. Car starts like charm, the thing is now even my radiator fan turns on as it didn't before. I know I shouldn't drive like this with temp hookup so as soon as possible I wanna get that sorted out the proper way.

Given the many electrical problems that your car has, purchasing a basic digital multimeter for $15-$30 and learning to use it will save you a lot of money.
 



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