434 whp 352 lbs torque d17 civic
#21
07-16-2007, 05:40 PM
RE: 434 whp 352 lbs torque d17 civic
z6 hatch wouldn't be anywere near as impressive as this guy's car.
#22
07-16-2007, 06:01 PM
RE: 434 whp 352 lbs torque d17 civic
A lot of this doesn't add up...
Full race doesn't coat their manifolds chrome, in fact they don't coat their manifolds at all. (Granted you could have)
Your engine is not sleeved, sorry. Those are stock sleeves and a block guard. When you sleeve an engine you drill the sleeves out and then press new ones in, there is no gapping anywhere, it is also flush with the decking of the block, which yours is not. Darton used to make sleeves similar to that but there was still no gap and it was always flush with the deck.
550cc injectors do not support 435whp, sorry.
Without sleeves the power could be made, chromed manifold is whatever, turbo is big enough, IC is on the small side for 400whp but with a fogger system always running you'd be ok...
My biggest problem is the injectors, they support 300whp, 330whp MAX. You're pushing almost 100whp more than that, you'd have to be pushing 50%+ methanol to fuel ratio in order to make that kind of power which really is tough to get to atomize correctly with the airflow with suge a huge dose.
IDK, car looks good, not my taste but looks good, but I'm hung up on a few things even though you have the proof. Nice car regardless, and don't mind my bantering it's just me thinking out loud.
Full race doesn't coat their manifolds chrome, in fact they don't coat their manifolds at all. (Granted you could have)
Your engine is not sleeved, sorry. Those are stock sleeves and a block guard. When you sleeve an engine you drill the sleeves out and then press new ones in, there is no gapping anywhere, it is also flush with the decking of the block, which yours is not. Darton used to make sleeves similar to that but there was still no gap and it was always flush with the deck.
550cc injectors do not support 435whp, sorry.
Without sleeves the power could be made, chromed manifold is whatever, turbo is big enough, IC is on the small side for 400whp but with a fogger system always running you'd be ok...
My biggest problem is the injectors, they support 300whp, 330whp MAX. You're pushing almost 100whp more than that, you'd have to be pushing 50%+ methanol to fuel ratio in order to make that kind of power which really is tough to get to atomize correctly with the airflow with suge a huge dose.
IDK, car looks good, not my taste but looks good, but I'm hung up on a few things even though you have the proof. Nice car regardless, and don't mind my bantering it's just me thinking out loud.
#24
07-17-2007, 08:52 AM
RE: 434 whp 352 lbs torque d17 civic
ORIGINAL: SovXietday
A lot of this doesn't add up...
Full race doesn't coat their manifolds chrome, in fact they don't coat their manifolds at all. (Granted you could have)
Your engine is not sleeved, sorry. Those are stock sleeves and a block guard. When you sleeve an engine you drill the sleeves out and then press new ones in, there is no gapping anywhere, it is also flush with the decking of the block, which yours is not. Darton used to make sleeves similar to that but there was still no gap and it was always flush with the deck.
550cc injectors do not support 435whp, sorry.
Without sleeves the power could be made, chromed manifold is whatever, turbo is big enough, IC is on the small side for 400whp but with a fogger system always running you'd be ok...
My biggest problem is the injectors, they support 300whp, 330whp MAX. You're pushing almost 100whp more than that, you'd have to be pushing 50%+ methanol to fuel ratio in order to make that kind of power which really is tough to get to atomize correctly with the airflow with suge a huge dose.
IDK, car looks good, not my taste but looks good, but I'm hung up on a few things even though you have the proof. Nice car regardless, and don't mind my bantering it's just me thinking out loud.
A lot of this doesn't add up...
Full race doesn't coat their manifolds chrome, in fact they don't coat their manifolds at all. (Granted you could have)
Your engine is not sleeved, sorry. Those are stock sleeves and a block guard. When you sleeve an engine you drill the sleeves out and then press new ones in, there is no gapping anywhere, it is also flush with the decking of the block, which yours is not. Darton used to make sleeves similar to that but there was still no gap and it was always flush with the deck.
550cc injectors do not support 435whp, sorry.
Without sleeves the power could be made, chromed manifold is whatever, turbo is big enough, IC is on the small side for 400whp but with a fogger system always running you'd be ok...
My biggest problem is the injectors, they support 300whp, 330whp MAX. You're pushing almost 100whp more than that, you'd have to be pushing 50%+ methanol to fuel ratio in order to make that kind of power which really is tough to get to atomize correctly with the airflow with suge a huge dose.
IDK, car looks good, not my taste but looks good, but I'm hung up on a few things even though you have the proof. Nice car regardless, and don't mind my bantering it's just me thinking out loud.
The block is sleeved, just not full deck, the sleeves are invividualy installed.
They went in so tight that I had to honed the crank drive.
The gap is covered by the block guard (IS NOT A FULL DECK)
I don't know what else to tell you other than getting into the yes I'm not you are not type or argument and is not what I like to do.
Belive what you want is cool with me I know what I got.
I also have a methanol injection kit along with other trickeries.
To achive 400+ hp I ran all nitrous fogger 45 shoot and the methanol.injection.
Granted is not parctical for every day driving so is not tuned that way always.
After getting does numbers on the dyno we tuned the car to lower HP and boost to be able to drive it.
Take in account that I have a stage 3 regrinded cam too.
With all that not having sleeves will deffinately messed up my engine by now.
Cental Florida Turbo is a very reputable tuner in Florida they wouldn't put their name on the line on a dyno sheet if it wasn't acurate the numbers don't lie.
Again I get scepticism a LOT and is understandable.
Others have made the 400+whp on similar set ups on the D17 so is not imposible.
A year ago I was tols that I could never get 350 whp and I did so others did too, now 350 is no big deal.
The manifold is ceramic coated not chrome, I don't know what is such a big issue.
Is there a company called Full Race?
Here inFloridaa full race isa style of manifold and I had it custom made specialyfor my car.
Is all good man I do respect your opinion and welcome constructive critizisim.
You seem to know your stuff.
Here is a link on a FAQ I wrote during the build
It gives part #'s and all
http://www.civicforums.com/forums/79...july-06-a.html
#27
07-17-2007, 11:35 AM
RE: 434 whp 352 lbs torque d17 civic
Thanks 05civic I'm glad to be here is a friendly site.
s2000gtx LOL I'm guilty
alright is hard to comprehend that some one can get that much power out of a D17 the fact is that is a very stong little engine and is very capable.
You'll see more and more ppl getting there.
I actualy documented the progress of the engine as it was build through a FAQ I wrote in another forum
You more than welcome to check it out it it needs to be updated.
http://www.civicforums.com/forums/79...july-06-a.html
s2000gtx LOL I'm guilty
alright is hard to comprehend that some one can get that much power out of a D17 the fact is that is a very stong little engine and is very capable.You'll see more and more ppl getting there.
I actualy documented the progress of the engine as it was build through a FAQ I wrote in another forum
You more than welcome to check it out it it needs to be updated.
http://www.civicforums.com/forums/79...july-06-a.html
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