Fast eggs... how much $ to make?
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It never was a fight just 2 enthusiest with different points of view
It never was a fight just 2 enthusiest with different points of view
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RE: Fast eggs... how much $ to make?
I dont know how this turned into a $2k super motor lol... i didnt say i was on a budget, if i plan on doing this, i would sell my bimmer (dont need that nice of a car at 18) and have a good chunk of money to build something. I will have about $12k-$13k to be exact, and if i dont use all that, then its that much extra cash ill have... I am willing to pay to make this thing work. I just have to keep it under 12k total lol (preferably not using all that money), dont know where the 2k budget thing came from that you guys are talking about at the bottom of the first page.
i dont nessicarily NEED it to be a 10 second car, just want it to be very fast, but still streetable... I dont know how fast you can be while still keeping the car streetable, i was assuming you guys could tell me. Also, couldnt you just have a boost controller and keep it on low boost on the street and turn on high when you get to the track? that would help with the streetability of the car, correct?
p.s. the "fight" was entertaining...
i dont nessicarily NEED it to be a 10 second car, just want it to be very fast, but still streetable... I dont know how fast you can be while still keeping the car streetable, i was assuming you guys could tell me. Also, couldnt you just have a boost controller and keep it on low boost on the street and turn on high when you get to the track? that would help with the streetability of the car, correct?
p.s. the "fight" was entertaining...
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I dont know how this turned into a $2k super motor lol... i didnt say i was on a budget, if i plan on doing this, i would sell my bimmer (dont need that nice of a car at 18) and have a good chunk of money to build something. I will have about $12k-$13k to be exact, and if i dont use all that, then its that much extra cash ill have... I am willing to pay to make this thing work. I just have to keep it under 12k total lol (preferably not using all that money), dont know where the 2k budget thing came from that you guys are talking about at the bottom of the first page.
i dont nessicarily NEED it to be a 10 second car, just want it to be very fast, but still streetable... I dont know how fast you can be while still keeping the car streetable, i was assuming you guys could tell me. Also, couldnt you just have a boost controller and keep it on low boost on the street and turn on high when you get to the track? that would help with the streetability of the car, correct?
p.s. the "fight" was entertaining...
I dont know how this turned into a $2k super motor lol... i didnt say i was on a budget, if i plan on doing this, i would sell my bimmer (dont need that nice of a car at 18) and have a good chunk of money to build something. I will have about $12k-$13k to be exact, and if i dont use all that, then its that much extra cash ill have... I am willing to pay to make this thing work. I just have to keep it under 12k total lol (preferably not using all that money), dont know where the 2k budget thing came from that you guys are talking about at the bottom of the first page.
i dont nessicarily NEED it to be a 10 second car, just want it to be very fast, but still streetable... I dont know how fast you can be while still keeping the car streetable, i was assuming you guys could tell me. Also, couldnt you just have a boost controller and keep it on low boost on the street and turn on high when you get to the track? that would help with the streetability of the car, correct?
p.s. the "fight" was entertaining...
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I have my own opinion on that and it's not too fair to superchargers simply cause I dont think they are worth all the BS for the power output you get, but with time and money invested SC can put up good numbers just in the wrong rpm range for a 2000 to 2500lb FWD car IMO
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Yup. At least we don't disagree about superchargers vs. turbos... that would be bad.
Yup. At least we don't disagree about superchargers vs. turbos... that would be bad.
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BTW I just re-read this.
Uberdata + OBD1 P28,P06,P72,P30 ecu = around $200
I'm not going to argue with you man, except for an article I JUST read, I didn't even know what uberdata was, and by the looks of it you have to make it yourself(I could completly be wrong, but it said you buy stuff from radio shack to build it, so I'm assuming). If you have the time and are able to custom fab those things, all power to you. Unforntunately you're forgetting the reality that a lot of people don't. You can always cut corners, do work yourself, buy inferior product etc to lower the price. I'm not saying this is wrong, bad or that no one COULD/SHOULD do this, all I'm saying is when an obvious newb to the import building scene wants advice, give them realistic advice about the costs involved, not how much it might cost YOU personally, that's the only problem I have with what you were saying. Not just anyone can build motors for the price you can.
ORIGINAL: md420
BTW I just re-read this.
Uberdata + OBD1 P28,P06,P72,P30 ecu = around $200
I'm not going to argue with you man, except for an article I JUST read, I didn't even know what uberdata was, and by the looks of it you have to make it yourself(I could completly be wrong, but it said you buy stuff from radio shack to build it, so I'm assuming). If you have the time and are able to custom fab those things, all power to you. Unforntunately you're forgetting the reality that a lot of people don't. You can always cut corners, do work yourself, buy inferior product etc to lower the price. I'm not saying this is wrong, bad or that no one COULD/SHOULD do this, all I'm saying is when an obvious newb to the import building scene wants advice, give them realistic advice about the costs involved, not how much it might cost YOU personally, that's the only problem I have with what you were saying. Not just anyone can build motors for the price you can.
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Yes you could do that with the boost controller, only ONE small problem though lol, ACTUALLY keeping the boost down when you're not at the track :P I know that's going to be my problem.
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Yes you could do that with the boost controller, only ONE small problem though lol, ACTUALLY keeping the boost down when you're not at the track :P I know that's going to be my problem.
Yes you could do that with the boost controller, only ONE small problem though lol, ACTUALLY keeping the boost down when you're not at the track :P I know that's going to be my problem.
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Yeah you can do that, its what I am planning on doing. It also depends which turbo you use, mine shouldn't see full boost until close to 4k RPM's. I can stay well below that when DDing anyways, so you can stay out of full boost anyways, if you go with a smaller turbo that spools faster however, you might not be able to do that. All depends on what you want to accomplish. The reason I chose to fully build the block and head, is because I truly believe your car should be built beyond what you plan to push it. If you wanna push 15 lbs of boost, build it for 20, if you wanna hit 20 build it for 25, that way you can feel confident that you're vehicle won't blow up. If you needed a 40 gig hard drive, would you buy a 40, no you'd buy a 60 or 100 even, so you know you won't fill it up. if you want to do anything past stock boost, which is usually around 6psi, I woiuld plan on spending at least 4k in PARTS, plus the cost of the car. Headwork isn't a must, but hey, why not rev to 8500 instead of 6900??? hehe just my 2 cents.
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now where can i find a b18c built for under $5k ... and when im talking built, port, new gaskets/seals, pistons etc.
After i get my Tein SS coilovers im saving for the b18c swap.. so yeah i would love to know where i can get one for that cheap. Cause i too want a reliable daily with a turbo'd b18.
After i get my Tein SS coilovers im saving for the b18c swap.. so yeah i would love to know where i can get one for that cheap. Cause i too want a reliable daily with a turbo'd b18.