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lt95civic 05-05-2011 07:25 AM

twincharger question
 
i have a fully built d16z6, no turbo yet as im still deciding on the size i want. another problem i have is i want it super and turbo charged. so i need to know what to do to the turbo so it can handle the higher flow from the supercharger. if i get a bigger turbo with more lag that kicks in at higher rpms, and get a twinscrew supercharger that works at lower rpms im pretty sure it would work. i just don't want to buy both and blow my turbo. so if anyone knows what i need to do please let me know.
thanks for the info in advance. and ps money is not an issue so any combo of turbo/supercharger you think would work the best let me know.

reaper2022 05-05-2011 03:41 PM

You won't blow your turbo but there's a very good chance the blower will only become a restriction once the turbo spools.

It would be pretty awesome to see a civic running compound boost though :D

Shandles 05-05-2011 04:16 PM


Originally Posted by reaper2022 (Post 756245)
You won't blow your turbo but there's a very good chance the blower will only become a restriction once the turbo spools.

It would be pretty awesome to see a civic running compound boost though :D

X2, I agree ^^^

I'd say just get a nice turbo set up, good tune and call it a day.

DaOne 05-05-2011 05:30 PM

OR..Turbo (or sc) and Nitrous lol

lt95civic 05-06-2011 10:48 AM

the thing is though. i dont want lag. and i don't want just high or low rpm boost. i want it all. and the only turbo i can find to fit the d16 is a t28 or t20. can i make any trubo fit?

lt95civic 05-06-2011 10:49 AM

and i was actually thinkin nitrous with it no matter what set up i did. just for the extra boost when i need. it. would it work with all three??

Shandles 05-06-2011 01:28 PM

I sure hope this is gonna be a weekend drag car...

reaper2022 05-06-2011 01:30 PM

Any turbo will fit on any engine. What you need to fit the engine would be the turbo manifold. Luckily, the factory exhaust manifold from a CRX HF will bolt directly up to a D16Z6 and you can weld (or have welded) any turbo flange you want on it; a lot of people with "home-made" turbo setups are running modified HF manifolds, and the best part is they're not that hard to find for a good price on eBay. The HF manifold is a "log" style manifold so it's not the best in the world for flow, but unless you're making crazy amounts of power it will be non-issue.

If you really want as little lag as possible and have the money for one, look into variable-vane turbos.

And yes, you can run nitrous with any method of forced induction (or natural aspiration) you want. Just keep in mind that your engine will need properly set up and tuned for nitrous; unfortunately, I know next to nothing about N2O setups, so hopefully someone else can chime in.

lt95civic 05-07-2011 03:38 PM

yes it will be a weekend race car only. i don't want that much power for daily driving. the turbo i want is - 63mm Garrett GT40R GT4088R GT4088 Dual Ball Bearing Turbo - is this to big? or could i go bigger? input please

rc2904 05-09-2011 10:21 AM

Bisimoto's Turbo build: Quest for 700whp D16Z WagoVan - D-series.org

94civicLX 05-10-2011 09:10 AM

i've only seen ford gt's with turbo and supercharger, 1100 hp+.I'd say go for it. its a great setup, much better than having one or the other imo.

reaper2022 05-10-2011 01:18 PM

Ford Modular engines have a lot more choices than a D-series engine which means larger blowers that can flow a lot more and won't become as much of a restriction at higher rpm's. As far as I know, with a D-series engine you get to choose between Jackson Racing and Jackson Racing.

Also, it's not extremely rare to see compound-boosted terminator Cobras running around; I'm sure Corvettes have their fair share of guys running compound boost as well.

cvcrcr99 05-10-2011 01:54 PM


Originally Posted by reaper2022 (Post 756522)
As far as I know, with a D-series engine you get to choose between Jackson Racing and Jackson Racing.

Correct.

I doubt anyone has even looked inside of a D16 JRSC intake manifold. It is restrictive as fawk. I'll see if I can get a picture of my manifold from the side to show you guys how small it really is.

OP, if you want big power, sleeve the motor, buy some beefy rods and low comp pistons, and a big ol' turbo and boost the hell out of it. Of course, it is a little more involved than that, but you'll get the idea once research is conducted on your end.

94civicLX 05-11-2011 08:33 AM


Ford Modular engines have a lot more choices than a D-series engine
i know, a stock GT engine can handle upwards of 1000 hp, i wasnt comparing it to a d series. GT's are the only cars i've had experience with in terms of forced induction,so i was just saying that turbo/supercharger combos can be awesome if you have the right setup. and sense he has a built engine i think it would be cool to see compound boost on a civic

lt95civic 05-12-2011 06:52 AM

thanks for the website!! ive decided since the only supercharger for the d16 sucks, and because its not for sale anymore i am going to go with turbo and nitrous. thanks for all the info guys!!

cvcrcr99 05-12-2011 09:47 AM


Originally Posted by lt95civic (Post 756667)
thanks for the website!! ive decided since the only supercharger for the d16 sucks, and because its not for sale anymore i am going to go with turbo and nitrous. thanks for all the info guys!!

To clarify, it doesn't suck.

It sucks if you are looking for ALOT more hp than it is rated for.

lt95civic 05-12-2011 10:39 AM

it only does a 10 psi boost. and since i want to turbo it as well with a 35+ boost the 10 sucks. and its not sold on jackson racing website anymore. so there is nothing i can do.

Shandles 05-12-2011 05:25 PM


Originally Posted by cvcrcr99 (Post 756684)
To clarify, it doesn't suck.

It sucks if you are looking for ALOT more hp than it is rated for.

technically... it DOES suck. LOLOLOLOL

cvcrcr99 05-12-2011 08:02 PM


Originally Posted by Shandles (Post 756724)
technically... it DOES suck. LOLOLOLOL

LOLOLOL... not really.

Not everyone wants a high hp drag queen.

Instant power and boost is nice BTW. If I get this H22a, I might be selling it. I'm sure I will get MORE than enough interest in it ;)

trustdestruction 05-12-2011 11:52 PM

The supercharger doesn't suck. It's decent. And if you want to be all clever and technical, it's actually referred to as a blower, further damaging your pun.

And you want to do 35+ PSI? Do you actually want to drive the car anywhere? Also, did you know that 35 PSI on a small turbo isn't the same thing as 35 PSI on a large turbo?

lt95civic 05-13-2011 08:55 AM

no i didnt know there was a difference between large and small turbo psi. and i only want this car for firebird raceway so no street driving in its future.

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