im pretty sure that it is faster than 12.7 being that Chrysler claimed my moms car was a 14-second car and guys are running 12.8's all day with them and my moms car is only at 450hp or so(adding in k&n's added hp numbers). The 2010 models will do mid 11's acording to Chrysler, 0-100-0 in 11, 0-62 in under 4 and a top speed of 202mph.

anyhow they are on the last year of the current "generation" of vipers which means facelift.

 

Yep, sure did...for this class of car I think it looks better than most - definitely better than Impreza's or Lancer's that's for sure. But hey - opinion's are like a$$hole's...evrybody's got one...

 

lol, hokay! Obviously looks are subjective but Civic Si styling is about as inspired as the last **** I took

 

^ I'm with stupid.

And Kanarrjl, even if the stock viper run 11's (last spec I saw was 12.7, but I'm sure it's way outdated), that's coming from a 10-cylinder. Ford now runs mid-13's with their v6's. I'm still not impressed by the viper, especially for the cost. I don't know, maybe it's because I see too many of them around here and they've lost their luster.

 

^well that means that there are too many self indulgent wieners in your town with too much bloody money! lol if you don't know what im talking about you need to watch gone in 60 seconds.

 

Well, around here in NY at least, dealers have NO Si's available at all - can't keep em on the lot long enough! So it seems a lot of people like em - must tell ya something about the "general" opinion as to whether or not people like the design!

Look at it this way...they come a looooong way since 1976!

 

You are kidding yourself if you think people are going into Honda dealerships to buy Si's because they're beautiful cars..

Si's sell because they're easily affordable under most budgets, are safe, reliable, FWD so you can easily drive them year round, and to the average joe they're kinda quick.

 

^ Again, he's absolutely right.

And I'd take that '76 civic over a new Si any day.

Also, tony, get in the lounge and give me your opinion on my mustang vs. a wrx.

 

Will Do!

 

Not my experience - a few pople don't like the latest Civic's style - nothing makes everyone happy but most people I know think it's a great looking car. I'll take it's style and sportier look over any blah-looking sedan (Impreza, Corolla, etc) that all look pretty much the same. But hey, to each his own. One thing I don't understand though is why someone would slam Civic's on a Civic forum...seems to me there are better places to be if you don't like em.