DAMN! these tires are sticky! ive used kuhmo 712s and proxes fz4s, and they cant hold a candle to these! I would reccomend these tires to anyone into auto-x or who drives aggressively. the only drawback is wear. the treadwear rating is a sparse 200, and if your alignment is out it will chew them up in no time. final word is: get an alignment and get these tires! btw, i got mine in 195/50/15 installed w/stems for under 300 bucks, just by talking the guys at goodyear down for about half an hour.