General Civic Talk - SH*T!!!!! SPEEDING TICKET

alright, here's the story,............. i was heading onto the entrance ramp for the highway going about 75 mph, and i knew that on the highway there isn't any cops....... well i almost reved out 4th gear to get up to speed real quick and when i had 5th floored going about 100 mph, mother f*cking cop way flyin probably going around 120 and pulls right up behind me with his lights on, and so, since its a civic i pulled over as soon as i could. and he only sited me for going 85 (on the entrance ramp), and for tinted windows, and when i was weavin in between cars, didn't use my turn signals. so i got sited for 3 things.

FINES: $286.50

my question, lol: i just got my license on friday............... the speed limit was 55 and he said i was going 85, do you think i am going to get my license suspended or anything? becuase he didn't say anything about it getting suspended.


any ideas on what i should do to help myself.


p.s. i was real nice to the cop to.

ughghgh cmon man.....this is the reason why us teens get a bad rep.....u had ur liscense for 3 days and u got a ticket!!! hopefully ull learn a lesson from this, and stop speeding, cuz instead of bein fined a ticket u coulda killed urself and any other poor person in ur way...as far as the liscense suspension.....i kno u have 1 get outa jail free card with your JOL.....youve already used it...now depending on whether or not this citation counts as 1 (bcause of a single ticket issued) or 3 (bcause u had 3 offenses on it) u might b screwed....but its like a 30 day suspension so thats not that bad....all this shiit is in that little RMV book they give you.....then agn u prolly didnt read that cuz it clearly states DRIVE SAFELY and DONT BREAK THE LAWS lol

I hope court will suspend your license. Then you might learn something.

whats with all the hateing we have all gotten tickets before and we all want are cars faster then there supposed to be , rmg35 has not given us a bad name . so i can say one thing the cop was extra nice for doing that because in most states over 100MPH is considered man slaughter , especially if your in the city limits , and that wouldn't look good on your record and its not like banks or credit card companies are going to look at your driving record to determine if there going to give you a loan

so do this all they want is money and for you not o race again , we all know your going to do it again so just do it where there are no cops

go to your court and say " i just got my license and i have a heavy foot the cop was extra nice and i was wondering what i can do so this wont damage my record , especially when i just got my licenses "

the ll be reasonable about it

ill tell you this i got tickets before i got my license and that was about 7 years ago and no one has ever pulled my driving records and said what the hell happen hear on so and so date all they care about is recent records , NOW if the crime was killing someone with mt car or getting 100MPH tickets like 10 times then there's a concern so be safe

well quite frankly there is no excuse...and to be saying "we all have gotten our tickets b4" further proves my point, because i have never gotten a ticket (knock on wood) and dont plan on getting one either....and to say you know you are goin to do it agn jus do it where there are no cops???? thats bullsh1t dont do it at all....you have no right to do anything illegal just because no 1 is watching...."NOW if the crime was killing someone with mt car or getting 100MPH tickets like 10 times then there's a concern"- if you get anymore than 1 for that amount of speed theres only a matter of time b4 you do end up killing someone......so just dont do it again...we all make mistakes....but dont make them regardless of whether or not cops are around...if you wanna go fast go to a track...and imma keep hatin on ppl who do this and imma hate more on ppl who think its okay and promote further law breaking when no1's looking......... lol this post make me sounds nazi-ish so i apologize for that

No cops on the highway? Youre a moron. I hope your dad kicks your ass when he sees u got a ticekt.

ORIGINAL: Pete

No cops on the highway? Youre a moron. I hope your dad kicks your ass when he sees u got a ticekt.


I was gonna comment on that. I like the part how he says "i knew that on the highway there isn't any cops" and a few seconds later he gets busted by the cops. How ****ing stupid is that. i go on highways where there isn't much cop presense but that doesn't mean they don't exist out there. I mean there have been a few times where i'm like "O **** a cop" and i didn't see them. So be wise and don't speed like that, you were going 85 on a 55, thats some major speeding. I speed but its controled, i don't go nuts

ORIGINAL: dukat03

whats with all the hateing we have all gotten tickets before and we all want are cars faster then there supposed to be , rmg35 has not given us a bad name . so i can say one thing the cop was extra nice for doing that because in most states over 100MPH is considered man slaughter , especially if your in the city limits , and that wouldn't look good on your record and its not like banks or credit card companies are going to look at your driving record to determine if there going to give you a loan

so do this all they want is money and for you not o race again , we all know your going to do it again so just do it where there are no cops

go to your court and say " i just got my license and i have a heavy foot the cop was extra nice and i was wondering what i can do so this wont damage my record , especially when i just got my licenses "

the ll be reasonable about it

ill tell you this i got tickets before i got my license and that was about 7 years ago and no one has ever pulled my driving records and said what the hell happen hear on so and so date all they care about is recent records , NOW if the crime was killing someone with mt car or getting 100MPH tickets like 10 times then there's a concern so be safe



Ive yet to get a ticket and it is people like that who not only give young kids (Im not in that chair anymore) a bad rep but the main reason why I gotta pay an outrageous insurance bill every month!

no, there is never cops on this highway cuz they can't hide anywhere, jersey barriers on both sides. he said he first seen me speedin when he was at a light

ORIGINAL: rmg35

no, there is never cops on this highway cuz they can't hide anywhere, jersey barriers on both sides. he said he first seen me speedin when he was at a light


1) you're dumb, just because there's jersey barriers doesn't mean there's not cops

2) I hope they suspend your license until you're 18 or even better, 21, or my ultimate dream would be that they suspend your license indefinitely, and throw you in jail, there's no reason to ever be going more than 80mph on a crowded highway, let alone more than 100mph

3) I've never gotten a ticket (many many many written and verbal warnings), nor have I been involved in a major accident.

4) I agree with Pete, I hope your dad beats the **** out of you for being an idiot

5) it is never smart to drive like an idiot and do 30 mph over the speed limit in any situation on a public road

6) it is stupid punk kids that do stupid **** like this that result in higher insurance rates for those of us who actually are responsible drivers

ORIGINAL: cderalow

ORIGINAL: rmg35

no, there is never cops on this highway cuz they can't hide anywhere, jersey barriers on both sides. he said he first seen me speedin when he was at a light


1) you're dumb, just because there's jersey barriers doesn't mean there's not cops

2) I hope they suspend your license until you're 18 or even better, 21, or my ultimate dream would be that they suspend your license indefinitely, and throw you in jail, there's no reason to ever be going more than 80mph on a crowded highway, let alone more than 100mph

3) I've never gotten a ticket (many many many written and verbal warnings), nor have I been involved in a major accident.

4) I agree with Pete, I hope your dad beats the **** out of you for being an idiot

5) it is never smart to drive like an idiot and do 30 mph over the speed limit in any situation on a public road

6) it is stupid punk kids that do stupid **** like this that result in higher insurance rates for those of us who actually are responsible drivers


I think you over-react.

ORIGINAL: Misha


ORIGINAL: cderalow

ORIGINAL: rmg35

no, there is never cops on this highway cuz they can't hide anywhere, jersey barriers on both sides. he said he first seen me speedin when he was at a light


1) you're dumb, just because there's jersey barriers doesn't mean there's not cops

2) I hope they suspend your license until you're 18 or even better, 21, or my ultimate dream would be that they suspend your license indefinitely, and throw you in jail, there's no reason to ever be going more than 80mph on a crowded highway, let alone more than 100mph

3) I've never gotten a ticket (many many many written and verbal warnings), nor have I been involved in a major accident.

4) I agree with Pete, I hope your dad beats the **** out of you for being an idiot

5) it is never smart to drive like an idiot and do 30 mph over the speed limit in any situation on a public road

6) it is stupid punk kids that do stupid **** like this that result in higher insurance rates for those of us who actually are responsible drivers


I think you over-react.




I'm sure you agree with 1, 2 is a bit over reaction, but I'm trying to make a point, 3 is true, 4 is true, 5 I'm sure you'd agree with, and 6 is true, inexperienced drivers are the reason why responsible drivers pay more for car insurance

i dunno, i just got that speeding thing in me, i love going fast. and its not like i don't know how to drive. lol. considering i was weaving threw cars and everything. i wouldn't really mind a 15 day suspension. but even before all that, i've really already learned my lesson. ever since that, i haven't went over the speed limit yet. this just really sucks....

ORIGINAL: cderalow

ORIGINAL: Misha


ORIGINAL: cderalow

ORIGINAL: rmg35

no, there is never cops on this highway cuz they can't hide anywhere, jersey barriers on both sides. he said he first seen me speedin when he was at a light


1) you're dumb, just because there's jersey barriers doesn't mean there's not cops

2) I hope they suspend your license until you're 18 or even better, 21, or my ultimate dream would be that they suspend your license indefinitely, and throw you in jail, there's no reason to ever be going more than 80mph on a crowded highway, let alone more than 100mph

3) I've never gotten a ticket (many many many written and verbal warnings), nor have I been involved in a major accident.

4) I agree with Pete, I hope your dad beats the **** out of you for being an idiot

5) it is never smart to drive like an idiot and do 30 mph over the speed limit in any situation on a public road

6) it is stupid punk kids that do stupid **** like this that result in higher insurance rates for those of us who actually are responsible drivers


I think you over-react.




I'm sure you agree with 1, 2 is a bit over reaction, but I'm trying to make a point, 3 is true, 4 is true, 5 I'm sure you'd agree with, and 6 is true, inexperienced drivers are the reason why responsible drivers pay more for car insurance


1. I don't agree. His judgement call was wrong due to the lack of experience. This does not mean he is dumb, we all do those things.

5. It's never smart being an idiot. Idiots aren't smart by definition, are they? But doing 30 over does not necesserily mean being an idiot. Under some circumstances this is just fine and safer than doing speed limit under some different circumstances.

6. Insurance is FOR PROFIT business, and insurance companies will use any excuse they can and charge you as much as they can to make more money. Even if all teens majically start driving resposibly, insurance rates will not go down any time soon, so I don't see any reason in bashing your peers who make mistakes, as long as they learn from their mistakes... Just shop around for better rate, this is time spend much more usefull in terms of saving your money.

as of right now (before my insurance finds out about my speeding ticket), i am payin 100 a month.

how much do you think it is going to jump up to? like maybe 15-30 dollars more a month?

ORIGINAL: rmg35

i dunno, i just got that speeding thing in me, i love going fast. and its not like i don't know how to drive. lol. considering i was weaving threw cars and everything.



Youve had your lisc for 3 days.......you DONT know how to drive. The streets are not your personal racetrack. Granted, Ill race on the highway from time to time, but its at like 3 am and theres no one out there........thus I dont risk innocent lives and I dont weave in and out of traffic. I hope they take your driving priviliges away for a few years.

ORIGINAL: Pete


Youve had your lisc for 3 days.......

^ There's a valid point. I don't care how long you were driving with a permit, you certainly can not state that you know how to drive on a public road only having your licence for 3 days. It takes years before you'll actually c alm the f down and start considering the consequences (may be that'll happen some day)

who said thats the only experience i have? thats the only "legal" experience i got.

Honestly it doesnt matter to me, because quite frankly GOOD drivers DONT do the following

ORIGINAL: rmg35
i was weaving threw cars and everything

so how much do you think my insurance is going up?

Frankly - no idea. Guesstimate - it can easily double your rate, especially if the judge will be strict. But it's not going to happen any time soon. First your court date has to come, then court has to decide smth, then it takes a couple of months to get to DMV record, than it takes yet more time for your insurance company to obtain your new DMV record... So, this is not your immediate concern. Your immediate concern is to realize that you know just a bare minimum to be able to drive, and there is still a lot to learn about driving, much more than you know already...

ORIGINAL: Pete


Honestly it doesnt matter to me, because quite frankly GOOD drivers DONT do the following

ORIGINAL: rmg35
i was weaving threw cars and everything






^+1

and honestly, for a trifecta like that, you'll be lucky if you can remain insured

well im glad every1 is on my side....wen that one dude was sticking up for him and promoting it got me pissed....

depends on how you do in court.

insurance insurance insurance...hope you do good

Yea, had my first accident 6 months after getting my liscense. I was going a little to fast down a big hill after it just rained....lost control, smacked head on with a van, and totaled my first car...it was not fun at all...

Ticket was only about $125, but I lost my only transportation for 3 months...

What I'm trying to get at is that after you completely **** up your car, but able to walk away from it, you learn to slow down. The last thing I want now is to wreck my civic like i did with my old altima...

ORIGINAL: rmg35

as of right now (before my insurance finds out about my speeding ticket), i am payin 100 a month.

how much do you think it is going to jump up to? like maybe 15-30 dollars more a month?

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you'll be up to a couple of thousand before you know it

OK OK some people misunderstood me supposedly defending the guy , .... did i ever say yea dude next time run from the cops ....no i didn't i just said the truth hes going to do it again , hell majority of us have gotten tickets , and some haven't , when i drive around here i don't race i drive speed limit , on the highway i drive speed limit as well because there are other people not in racing mentality and have kids in the car and don't want to race they just want to get where they want to go...safely , but when we go racing in a exclusive spot that's safe we don't do speed limit ...because its racing and we only race with people that we know .

is it safe no , i never promote that others do it i just say if your going to do it then don't get caught and be safe ( if i didn't express that in the other message then let me do that now DRIVE SAFE , DONT GET INJURED OR INJURE PEOPLE if you can take it to the track then take it there ,

READ THIS

look i'm not on here promoting street racing I'm on here helping people with questions i wasn't evan going to wright anything here about his ticket , the ONLY reason i decided to wright anything was that the kid comes on here to wright about his first ticket that he got and admitted to the real speed and how nice the cop was and he wanted to know what to do about the ticket and the situation , and all he gets is bashing and remarks like

"ughghgh cmon man.....this is the reason why us teens get a bad rep.....u had ur license for 3 days and u got a ticket!!! hopefully ull learn a lesson from this"
and
"I hope court will suspend your license. Then you might learn something. "

the kid didn't want bashing he wanted help , if he wanted bashing he wouldnt sit in front of his computer and type , he would just go talk to his parents . he knows he fuc*ed up but don't bash him , i don't evan know this kid all i know is that if someone needs helpweather they are aregular on this site or evan new there not going to post asking for our advice because they read this post and how there questions are going to get answered .

allot of people did help and are still helping and that's what we should all do -

Yes, kid definitely needs help. And no, I don't think what you are telling is going to help him. First thing ishe deadly (literally, this is a question of his life and death) needs to realize that: 1. He does not know a **** about driving yet, and 2. He did a stupid thing driving 100mph with his lack of experience. That's what most people here are trying to do in this thread. If he hear such words from his parents, he does not give it a ****, if he hear this from his fellow drivers, he might give it a thought.

My question is what state were you in to get all 3 of those offenses to be such a low fine in oregon that would belike 600-700$ easily in fines.

i live in pittsburgh, pa

but im thinking about pleading not guilty becuase on the sitation it says "other" for how he caught me speeding. and there is no way a civic is going 85 on a onramp

ORIGINAL: rmg35

but im thinking about pleading not guilty becuase on the sitation it says "other" for how he caught me speeding. and there is no way a civic is going 85 on a onramp


Mine can :D

well like you could half way up it, then there is a sharp a*s turn so there is no way that i could be goin 85 maybe 65 tops. but the cop didn't have a radar or wasn't using the lines on the road or anything like that. he just happend to be at the red light.

what do you think i should tell the judge to help me not loose my license. becuase i really think i did learn my lesson on this one, cuz ever since on sunday with that ticket, i haven't went over the speed limit yet. so its starting to get to me, in a way. im just trying to keep my license more than anything right now.

you can go to court on it& hope the cop doesnt show up
if he does you could be screwed[&:]

Well my civic can do 85 on the onramps here in oregon and Im not boosted. But basically there is not much of a way to fight a ticket unless he screws up when is writing it

ORIGINAL: rmg35

well like you could half way up it, then there is a sharp a*s turn so there is no way that i could be goin 85 maybe 65 tops. but the cop didn't have a radar or wasn't using the lines on the road or anything like that. he just happend to be at the red light.

what do you think i should tell the judge to help me not loose my license. becuase i really think i did learn my lesson on this one, cuz ever since on sunday with that ticket, i haven't went over the speed limit yet. so its starting to get to me, in a way. im just trying to keep my license more than anything right now.

Dude...just be a man about it and accept your punishment, don't try to bull**** your way out of it. You wereretarded for going over 100 mph, weaving, etc on a crowdedhighwayand you know it. Just accept your punishment, you know you're guilty...

oh i know, but its the fact that he just guessed on my speed and didn't use a radar or anything. if he used a radar or something, then yea, i wouldn't go to court

Step 1: Think of your friends. Any of their parents lawyers? If yes, ask them for help. A girl I know's dad helped me knick 500$ worth of ticket down to 300$ for free.

Step 2: If you don't have it, go to a thrift store, buy a nice shirt, tie, and slacks.

Step 3: If you got a free lawyer to help, do what he/she says, if not. Go to court, cleaned up and wearing your nice clothes. Smile at the judge and tell him it was a beginners mistake. There's a good chance you'll just get a deferred sentence, meaning you pay the fine and court fees, but the ticket doesn't go on your record unless you mess up again in a time he will set. Getting it deferred will save your ass from raised insurance later on.

Step 4: Buy a Escort Passport, and be alert when you drive.

alright man, thanks. at least you ain't like every1 else telling my im some idiot. cuz i know im not the only one on here that gets speeding tickets.

is there any way i can make payments to him, cuz you know, i don't have 265.50 layin around

jesus....telling him how to get out of it is in no way helping at all........now i officially have no sympathy for you at all, the fact that attempting to plead not guilty even passed through your mind disturbs me, you clearly broke the law, in more than 1 way, you kno you did it, the cop knows you did it....and yet still you are looking for waaays to get out of it??? that really shows alot about your personality......

ORIGINAL: R35P3KT

jesus....telling him how to get out of it is in no way helping at all........now i officially have no sympathy for you at all, the fact that attempting to plead not guilty even passed through your mind disturbs me, you clearly broke the law, in more than 1 way, you kno you did it, the cop knows you did it....and yet still you are looking for waaays to get out of it??? that really shows alot about your personality......

I would disagree with you. IMO you talk out of illusions. The guy get a very good advice on how to deal withhis situation, and if he is smart, he will use it. This is normal for any creature, including human being,to defend himself.

and i also heard since it is my first ticket and my first offense, that it might just be dropped or lowered

man u were goin 100 on a packed highway.... well i did it once but it was at 3am and the only ppl on the highway was me and my brother. the most i ever do on the highway now is 60-65. im scared there will be cops in unmarked cars. lol
and most likely you will get points on ur license. the other day i made a left turn on a street where the signs say during a certain time of the day you can't turn left and i got a $50 ticket and 3POINTS on my license. im jus mad about the 3 points.

xcuse me?? i talk out of illusions?? the reality was he broke the law and he will, and rightfully should,pay the price for it...there is no illusion in that....and there is a difference between defending yourself and just completly attempting to swindle your way out of your punishment.....defending yourself is acceptable wen you stand up for what is right, in this situation nothing he did was right so there is no "defending" of anything.......suure the advice will most likely help him, and it will probably save him some money....but what will stop him from thinking he can do w/e the fu** he wants if he knows that people's "advice" is gonna get him out of it? and dont reply with "i learned my lesson wont happen again" because all u are worried about is $$, if you really learned somethin then this wouldnt be a primary concern......

ORIGINAL: R35P3KT
the fact that attempting to plead not guilty even passed through your mind disturbs me
Illusion number one. Textbook good boys do not have such thoughts. In real life ALL people do.

ORIGINAL: R35P3KT
you clearly broke the law… …and yet still you are looking for waaays to get out of it???

Illusion number two. Textbook good boys do not try. In real life many otherwise good people do try, and rightfully so

iight i mighta overexaggerated on the first one....the "thoughts" pass through everyones mind, but the actual action of asking around and doing what you can physically to get out of it is a sleezy thing to do. And as for the second 1, there is no illusion there, ppl who try and get out of their crimes even though they kno they are guilty are called dipsh!t a$$holes.....OJ simpson anybody??????

Well, I’m glad we are on the same page at least on the first one. :)

Second one is not that straight forward. If we had God given laws, I would absolutely agree with you. Problem is, our laws are written by people, and people are not perfect and have their own agenda. Worth, different countries have different laws, and what is considered unlawful in one of them, could be perfectly OK in another. This makes me thinking that law is not an absolute moral category. For example, perfectly moral and law abiding German citizen can drive 100 mph on a highway. If American citizen does the same thing, he is considered a criminal. Are people that different in Germany and America? I don’t think so. I don’t think the person is a criminal if he/she drives above speed limit – millions do this on a regular basis, and almost everybody - at least several times during their lives. I couldn’t say the same about theft, for example. If so many people break the law, law is bad, not people, no matter what government says about it.

On the other hand, American speed limit laws are a significant source of income for the governments on all levels. Some small towns along interstates just plain live out of speeding tickets! For them this is not a question of law, this is a question of income, which effectively removes traffic laws out of moral considerations. This became a game of hide-n-seek that people play with authorities and, as such, does not entitle any of the parties to a moral superiority.

That’s why I do not consider immoral an attempt to get out of traffic ticket, or at least reduce the consequences.

All this is not to say that the kid did the right thing – he did the wrong thing, no doubt. But I consider it wrong not because he broke the traffic law, but because he endangered his and other’s lives.

And what about OJ simpson?:eek:

lol well we r basically on the same page so i call a TRUCE!!! im pretty sure we could go on for 5 more pages at this rate lol you have been a wonderful debate competitor, we'll call it a tie and agree that this kid should stop going so damn fast! lol

No disagreement on this one ;)

Nice talking to you :)

well i did learn my lesson, and its just not all the "money" part, thats just sh*ts and giggles. what im tryin to get out of is loosing my license and getting all them damn points taken off.

I was in the same position as this kid when i was that age, and i learned my leason. I never speed or break any traffic laws anymore. Its just not worth it. Maybe you'll end up like me nack thenand be put on probation for a year were if you screwed up at all you lost your lisenceuntil your 21. Could do you some good in the long run anyway, good luck.

ORIGINAL: rmg35

well i did learn my lesson, and its just not all the "money" part, thats just sh*ts and giggles. what im tryin to get out of is loosing my license and getting all them damn points taken off.

Don't count on points getting taken off your licence if you were going over 40 mph over the speed limit...